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So they're most likely to go over the tax again this year, obviously. With that said, I think they should - and for some weird reason I think they will - go balls-out on that. I remember reading in the past an analysis on the tax that summarizes basically, "if you're gonna go over the tax, don't pussyfoot it and go over a little bit. If you're going to be over the tax then make it absolutely worth it because the penalty is negligible whether it's by $1M or $20M" (paraphrasing in my own terms here).0
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Jearlpam0925 said:So they're most likely to go over the tax again this year, obviously. With that said, I think they should - and for some weird reason I think they will - go balls-out on that. I remember reading in the past an analysis on the tax that summarizes basically, "if you're gonna go over the tax, don't pussyfoot it and go over a little bit. If you're going to be over the tax then make it absolutely worth it because the penalty is negligible whether it's by $1M or $20M" (paraphrasing in my own terms here).Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24; Pittsburgh 5/16/25; Pittsburgh 5/18/25
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I've seen them attached to Rodon and Taillon. I can see them going after a guy like that, plus a bullpen arm or bench/super-util guy.0
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pjhawks said:Never a doubt. This town's gonna love him.If I had known then what I know now...
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Wobbie said:pjhawks said:Never a doubt. This town's gonna love him.
Looked it up....meh. he was 17 or 18. Give him a pass on being an idiot and apologizing as an adult.
Dumb/mean tweets are a thing. Dumb teenagers make lots of them, I'm sure.
Also, baseball players are generally a slow bunch.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
Check this out. Pretty cool. Karl is my wife's cousin. I knew he played with Trea Turner but forgot Rodon was on that team too. My father in law just reminded me that he combined on a no hitter with Rodon when he was a freshman. We're actually going to his wedding this weekend.
https://www.inquirer.com/phillies/phillies-free-agency-trea-turner-carlos-rodon-20221204.htmlWhat would Carlos Rodon and Trea Turner bring to the Phillies? A former teammate knows.
Karl Keglovits says the star duo had a blend of levity, accountability and a desire to win in leading NC State to a College World Series title in 2013.
SAN DIEGO — Karl Keglovits got a phone call a few weeks ago from one of his former baseball teammates at North Carolina State, Johnny Piedmonte.
Piedmonte asked if Keglovits had heard the big news. He had not.
“It’s possible that Carlos and Trea end up in Philly,” Piedmonte said.
Keglovits could barely contain his excitement. Carlos — as in Carlos Rodón — and Trea — as in Trea Turner — had overlapped with Keglovits at N.C. State for two seasons. He’d closely followed their careers since, and now there was a chance they could play for his Phillies.
Keglovits was born and raised in Nazareth, Pa., and grew up going to games at Citizens Bank Park, watching Chase Utley, Ryan Howard, Jimmy Rollins, Cole Hamels, and Roy Halladay turn the Phillies into perennial winners. The idea of Turner and Rodón having a similar impact was tantalizing.
And the more he thought about it, the more it made sense. Both free agents, who are in high demand as baseball’s winter meetings opened Sunday in San Diego, would fill the Phillies’ two main needs. Turner is an All-Star shortstop who hits with some power, can get on base, and makes the most of getting on base, stealing 27 bases for the Dodgers this past season. And Rodón is an All-Star starter who is coming off of a career year with the Giants, posting a 2.88 ERA with 237 strikeouts in 178 innings.
But Keglovits knew, from personal experience, that the addition of Rodón and Turner would provide far more than a workhouse on the mound and some pop in the lineup. When he was a freshman in 2013, he watched as the sophomore shortstop and pitcher — who were best friends and roommates — led N.C. State to its first College World Series appearance since 1968.
Together, they brought a blend of levity and accountability and an insatiable desire to win. One Halloween, Turner showed up to practice dressed up as Rodón, stuffing pillows underneath his jersey to mimic the pitcher’s physique. His teammates got a good laugh out of that. Rodón, in his quest to become a two-way player, would often take batting practice. His teammates got a laugh out of that, too.
But there were also days when Turner and Rodón set a more serious tone.
“They’d get on you anytime you wanted to take a shortcut,” Keglovits said. “Even during running drills. We’d be doing suicides, and if a player didn’t reach the line, they’d be like, ‘If you’re taking shortcuts now, what are you going to do when game time comes around?’ They gave us a healthy push when we needed it.”
Both players led by example. One night, Keglovits was giving his family a tour of the baseball facilities at N.C. State. When they reached the batting cages, he heard the sound of a player hitting off a tee. It was Turner, who was getting his swings in about 9 p.m.
“Trea takes pride in his hitting, and I think it’s because everyone sees him for his speed,” said N.C. State coach Elliott Avent. “They show his slides over and over and over. And I know he’s proud of that and he loves that as well. But Trea likes being known for who he is. He’s a great hitter. He’s a great shortstop. He likes to win.”
Years later, Turner is still known for his speed, but also for his offense. He is a career .302 hitter with a 122 career OPS+ coming off his first Silver Slugger season. Amid a Phillies lineup that features streaky hitters, Turner would add consistent production.
And Rodón would add some power from the left side. He ranked in the 95th percentile in strikeout rate this season, and in the 80th percentile in fastball velocity. He also threw a career-high 178 innings, which would take some of the load off the Phillies’ relief corps.
Keglovits, who now lives in New Hampshire and works in health care, knows that a number of factors could ultimately send Turner and Rodón to other teams. But he will be pulling for his former teammates to end up in red pinstripes, and not just because it will give him another excuse to return home.
When the Dodgers were at Citizens Bank Park in late May, Keglovits sent Turner a text message. His cousin, Eric Gubich, was a huge Phillies fan and was battling cancer at the time. Keglovits wanted to know if Gubich and his 6-year-old son could get on the field before a game.
Turner responded almost immediately.
“Yes,” he said. “Anything I can do to help.”
Gubich died in October at the age of 37, but passed his fandom on to his son, Parker. When Keglovits heard that Turner and Rodón were linked with the Phillies, he thought of the possibility of bringing Parker back to the ballpark someday, and maybe even introducing his nephew to his former teammates.
“That’s something I’ll never forget,” Keglovits said of Turner’s gesture. “Both of those guys, they always have your back. It means a lot.”
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F Me In The Brain said:Wobbie said:pjhawks said:Never a doubt. This town's gonna love him.
Looked it up....meh. he was 17 or 18. Give him a pass on being an idiot and apologizing as an adult.
Dumb/mean tweets are a thing. Dumb teenagers make lots of them, I'm sure.
Also, baseball players are generally a slow bunch.
that said, he has a certain smugness to him that I don’t like….glad my Giants didn’t sign him.If I had known then what I know now...
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Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:Wobbie said:pjhawks said:Never a doubt. This town's gonna love him.
Looked it up....meh. he was 17 or 18. Give him a pass on being an idiot and apologizing as an adult.
Dumb/mean tweets are a thing. Dumb teenagers make lots of them, I'm sure.
Also, baseball players are generally a slow bunch.
that said, he has a certain smugness to him that I don’t like….glad my Giants didn’t sign him.www.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:Wobbie said:pjhawks said:Never a doubt. This town's gonna love him.
Looked it up....meh. he was 17 or 18. Give him a pass on being an idiot and apologizing as an adult.
Dumb/mean tweets are a thing. Dumb teenagers make lots of them, I'm sure.
Also, baseball players are generally a slow bunch.
that said, he has a certain smugness to him that I don’t like….glad my Giants didn’t sign him.0 -
The Juggler said:Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:Wobbie said:pjhawks said:Never a doubt. This town's gonna love him.
Looked it up....meh. he was 17 or 18. Give him a pass on being an idiot and apologizing as an adult.
Dumb/mean tweets are a thing. Dumb teenagers make lots of them, I'm sure.
Also, baseball players are generally a slow bunch.
that said, he has a certain smugness to him that I don’t like….glad my Giants didn’t sign him.
but I get that you guys are excited…it’s a big signing….philly sports are booming, these days….hell, even the flyers aren’t putrid.If I had known then what I know now...
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https://theathletic.com/3973611/2022/12/05/phillies-trea-turner-300-million-deal?source=user-shared-article
"“I think it’s one of the first things that gets covered,” Fuld said. “A number of guys have used the phrase, ‘You can feel it through the TV.’ Most of the guys we talked to were glued to the TV watching, through the playoffs.”The Phillies wanted to capitalize on those feelings. Turner, according to multiple sources, left money on the table. The actual terms of the Padres’ final offer were unclear. California has a higher income tax rate, but San Diego’s offer was believed to be significant enough to offset that."
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Jearlpam0925 said:https://theathletic.com/3973611/2022/12/05/phillies-trea-turner-300-million-deal?source=user-shared-article
"“I think it’s one of the first things that gets covered,” Fuld said. “A number of guys have used the phrase, ‘You can feel it through the TV.’ Most of the guys we talked to were glued to the TV watching, through the playoffs.”The Phillies wanted to capitalize on those feelings. Turner, according to multiple sources, left money on the table. The actual terms of the Padres’ final offer were unclear. California has a higher income tax rate, but San Diego’s offer was believed to be significant enough to offset that."
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pjhawks said:Jearlpam0925 said:https://theathletic.com/3973611/2022/12/05/phillies-trea-turner-300-million-deal?source=user-shared-article
"“I think it’s one of the first things that gets covered,” Fuld said. “A number of guys have used the phrase, ‘You can feel it through the TV.’ Most of the guys we talked to were glued to the TV watching, through the playoffs.”The Phillies wanted to capitalize on those feelings. Turner, according to multiple sources, left money on the table. The actual terms of the Padres’ final offer were unclear. California has a higher income tax rate, but San Diego’s offer was believed to be significant enough to offset that."
Bold emphasis mine.
But yes, Phils stepped up and paid the guy.0 -
Wow this is crazy0
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Dombrowski doesn't fuck around, does he? Pretty much all set at this point. Few more relievers here and there.
With Harper, here is what I like right now, but I can be persuaded.
2B TURNER R
1B HOSKINS R
DH HARPER L
C REALMUTO R
RF SCHWARBER L
LF CASTELLANOS R
3B BOHM R
2B STOTT L
CF MARSH L
Though I am cool with flip flopping JT and Rhys....and maybe moving Stott up a bit. I'd drop Nick a bit too if he starts slow again. I just love Turner batting leadoff.
Really hope Topper doesn't stick Schwarber there just because he was there all last year or something. That is the one thing I would not be happy with .
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The Juggler said:Dombrowski doesn't fuck around, does he? Pretty much all set at this point. Few more relievers here and there.
With Harper, here is what I like right now, but I can be persuaded.
2B TURNER R
1B HOSKINS R
DH HARPER L
C REALMUTO R
RF SCHWARBER L
LF CASTELLANOS R
3B BOHM R
2B STOTT L
CF MARSH L
Though I am cool with flip flopping JT and Rhys....and maybe moving Stott up a bit. I'd drop Nick a bit too if he starts slow again. I just love Turner batting leadoff.
Really hope Topper doesn't stick Schwarber there just because he was there all last year or something. That is the one thing I would not be happy with .
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Yeah Hoskins best place is in the middle of the lineup, probably sandwiched between Harper and Schwarber. Realmuto should probably be in the 2 hole until Stott can ultimately take over that spot. Nick should be relegated to the bottom of the order until he can prove otherwise, and flip him with Bohm.
Rotation:
1) Nola
1A) Wheeler
3) Suarez
4) Walker
5) Sanchez/Falter/not committing to Painter until absolutely needed
What's great is there is a lot of flexibility in the lineup since it's not righty or lefty heavy, though I'll always prefer a lefty heavy lineup, but the flexibility is lost with so many DHs in the lineup.
I wonder what they do with Nola. I have to think they make a legit push of extending him, have to.Post edited by Jearlpam0925 on0
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