LIVE - same singer, new band

2-feign-reluctance
2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
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Read an interview with Chris Shinn recently about his new AMAZING solo album where he said the lead singer for LIVE fired the entire band earlier this year and is out with a new band. This after they let go of Chris and brought the OG singer years back? Man, what the fuck!? Wondering if they will continue the catalog reissue. Was really hoping for them to revisit Secret Samahdi but who knows. Anyway, the interview was not a flattering account of the band either which sucks because I love their music! 
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/chris-shinn-live-ed-kowalczyk-1234621472/amp/
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  • CarryTheZero
    CarryTheZero Posts: 3,481
    I’ll read this. What a bummer. They were grade school friends if I remember right. 

    Loved seeing them live for years,but I fell off a bit after V. The rap style lyrics and referencing themselves during the songs got to be a bit much for me.

    Remember seeing them first time at a little field for students at UGA for Throwing Copper. They were just beginning to get huge.
  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 996
    Absolutely love their first four albums. I remember bands fell off for me after their fourth, Korn and Offspring being others. I think them reuniting with Ed was a bit Mickey Mouse as Chad Gracey didn't even play drums on the Local 717 EP. Apparently Chad Taylor was fired proper, and Pat and Chad Gracey hadn't signed contracts to tour so Ed took other guys out. Think he owns the controlling stake now-maybe he made sure to do so as a condition of rejoining.

    The Turn is awesome. Best Live album since TDTH. Thoroughly recommended-it has that dark brooding quality a lot of my favourite early Live songs do.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Agreed about The Turn! I picked up the CD and listen to it on occasion. 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    Saw this version of the band last night. Wasn't going to spend money on them after reading about the lineup situation. But got freebies (casino show). Band was actually very good, but really should be labeled Ed Kowalczyk solo performing Live material.

    Ther's also info that recently came to light about the band's (not Ed, the other 3) former business partner that appears to be a driving force in how things ended up as they are.

    A blog post from Taylor last week:

    The Reckoning: William T. Hynes. In July 2019, we were days away from… | by Chad Taylor | Nov, 2022 | Medium

    And that business partner now suing Taylor, Gracey and Dahlmeier:

    Bill Hynes and Live band member exchange new allegations of fraud, theft (yorkdispatch.com)


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  • mookieblalock
    mookieblalock Posts: 3,571
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    Read an interview with Chris Shinn recently about his new AMAZING solo album where he said the lead singer for LIVE fired the entire band earlier this year and is out with a new band. This after they let go of Chris and brought the OG singer years back? Man, what the fuck!? Wondering if they will continue the catalog reissue. Was really hoping for them to revisit Secret Samahdi but who knows. Anyway, the interview was not a flattering account of the band either which sucks because I love their music! 
    Thanks for sharing this. So sad to see what Live became. They were such a big band for me growing up transitioning to adulthood, just like many here. Not a good look for any of them.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Wow...crazy! I had no idea.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Man, so good to hear an apology from Chad Taylor to Chris Shinn. More context here and thanks poster for putting this up. What a fucking mess. I will always hold their work in high regard in my life though. Those first three records, fuck man, just so so so good. 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,688
    This is funny.
  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 996
    No love for TDTH? I chuck that in too. Though it's near the limit of tolerance for Ed's histrionics IMO-his falsetto can get on my wick sometimes. Good to read CT's response too. Man sounds like an absolute clusterfuck. Those lawsuits Shinn mentioned look pretty well corroborated.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Tim Simmons said:
    This is funny.
    Not all of it. Did you read Chad Taylor’s post? 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,688
    No. Just the RS interview.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,688
    bonkers. 

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/live-alt-rock-band-crime-lawsuits-1234677011/
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,688
    Still sticking by "This is funny" comment. 

    The band Live are also investors in a fiber optic cable company. One of them willingly attends the AVN awards and has covid conspiracy theories. 

  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    What a fall. Ugh. 
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,932
    edited February 2023
    Read that story. Wild.  Saw them in 2018 opening for Counting Crows and they were great. 
  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    Sounds a lot like Guns and Roses
  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 996
    One more shitty thing is they were all pumping the reunion with Ed and the Local 717 EP as the original lineup back together but Chad Gracey didn't even play drums on that EP.
    Stars are suns to other people.

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    EV Dublin 2017
    Milan 2018
    Padova 2018
    Boston 2 2018
    Auckland 1 & 2 2024
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    wow - crazy story.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    After reading that article I completely empathize with Ed. Those guys sound like total chaos.

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