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Pledging 300,000 troops on the Russian side and more nuclear sabre rattling. I hope there is some sort of off ramp soon.Scio me nihil scire
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By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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HughFreakingDillon said:It will not be a picnic in the US either. Nat gas commodity prices are already quadruple normal, and heating season hasn’t even started yet in most US locations
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Any thoughts on Nordstream sabotage? I think it is unlikely that Russia would self sabotage what they could just turn off. I am open to other opinions. It doesn't look like too much info has been released.Scio me nihil scire
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6 months in? or just period?Meta disables Russian propaganda network targeting EuropeBy DAVID KLEPPERYesterday
A sprawling disinformation network originating in Russia sought to use hundreds of fake social media accounts and dozens of sham news websites to spread Kremlin talking points about the invasion of Ukraine, Meta revealed Tuesday.
The company, which owns Facebook and Instagram, said it identified and disabled the operation before it was able to gain a large audience. Nonetheless, Facebook said it was the largest and most complex Russian propaganda effort that it has found since the invasion began.
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Russia-Ukraine war Vladimir Putin Volodymyr Zelenskyy NATO Kyiv United States United Nations TreatiesPutin illegally annexes Ukraine land; Kyiv seeks NATO entryBy JON GAMBRELL and HANNA ARHIROVAToday
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin signed treaties Friday to illegally annex more occupied Ukrainian territory in a sharp escalation of his war. Ukraine's president countered with a surprise application to join the NATO military alliance.
Putin’s land-grab and President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s signing of what he said is an “accelerated” NATO membership application sent the two leaders speeding faster on a collision course that is cranking up fears of a full-blown conflict between Russia and the West.
Putin vowed to protect newly annexed regions of Ukraine by “all available means," a renewed nuclear-backed threat he made at a Kremlin signing ceremony where he also railed furiously against the West, accusing the United States and its allies of seeking Russia's destruction.
Zelenskyy then held his own signing ceremony in Kyiv, releasing video of him putting pen to papers he said were a formal NATO membership request.
Putin has repeatedly made clear that any prospect of Ukraine joining the military alliance is one of his red lines and cited it as a justification for his invasion, now in its eighth month, in Europe's biggest land war since World War II.
In his speech, Putin urged Ukraine to sit down for peace talks but insisted he won’t discuss handing back occupied regions. Zelenskyy said there'd be no negotiations with Putin.
“We are ready for a dialogue with Russia, but … with another president of Russia," the Ukrainian leader said.
At his signing ceremony in the Kremlin's ornate St. George's Hall, Putin accused the West of fueling the hostilities to turn Russia into a “colony” and a “crowd of soulless slaves.” The hardening of his position, in the conflict that has killed and wounded tens of thousands of people, further raised tensions already at levels unseen since the Cold War.
Global leaders, including those from the Group of Seven leading economies, responded with an avalanche of condemnation. The U.S. and the U.K. announced more sanctions.
U.S. President Joe Biden said of Putin's annexation of the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions: “Make no mistake: These actions have no legitimacy.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed treaties to annex parts of Ukraine into Russia, defying Western powers and marking a sharp escalation of the seven-month conflict with its neighbor. (Sept. 30)“America and its allies are not going to be intimidated by Putin and his reckless words and threats,” Biden added, noting that the Russian leader “can’t seize his neighbor’s territory and get away with it.”
The European Union said its 27 member states will never recognize the illegal referendums that Russia organized “as a pretext for this further violation of Ukraine’s independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity.”
Russia vetoed a U.N. Security Council resolution Friday that would have condemned the referendums, declared that they have no validity and urged all countries not to recognize the annexation. China, India, Brazil and Gabon abstained on the vote in the 15-member council.
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg called it “the largest attempted annexation of European territory by force since the Second World War.”
The war is at “a pivotal moment,” he said, and Putin’s decision to annex more territory – Russia now claims sovereignty over 15% of Ukraine – marks “the most serious escalation since the start of the war.” Stoltenberg was noncommittal on Zelenskyy’s fast-track NATO application, saying alliance leaders “support Ukraine’s right to choose its own path, to decide what kind of security arrangements it wants to be part of.”
Dmitry Medvedev, deputy head of Russia’s Security Council, said Zelenskyy’s move toward the military alliance amounts to “begging NATO to accelerate the start of World War III.”
Zelenskyy vowed to keep fighting, defying Putin's warnings that Kyiv shouldn't try to recapture what it has lost.
“The entire territory of our country will be liberated from this enemy," he said. “Russia already knows this. It feels our power."
The immediate ramifications of the “accelerated” NATO application weren't clear, since approval requires members' unanimous support. The supply of Western weapons to Ukraine has, however, already put it closer to the alliance's orbit.
“De facto, we have already proven compatibility with alliance standards," Zelenskyy said. “We trust each other, we help each other, and we protect each other.”
The Kremlin ceremony came three days after the completion in the occupied regions of Moscow-orchestrated “referendums” on joining Russia that Kyiv and the West dismissed as a blatant land grab held at gunpoint and based on lies. In his fiery speech, Putin insisted Ukraine treat the votes “with respect.”
As the ceremony concluded, the Moscow-installed leaders of the occupied regions gathered around Putin, linked hands and chanted “Russia! Russia!” with the audience.
Putin cut an angry figure as he accused the United States and its allies of seeking to destroy Russia. He said the West acted “as a parasite” and used its financial and technological strength “to rob the entire world.”
He portrayed Russia as pursuing a historical mission to reclaim its post-Soviet great power status and counter Western domination he said is collapsing.
“History has called us to a battlefield to fight for our people, for the grand historic Russia, for future generations,” he said.
Moscow has backed eastern Ukraine's separatist Donetsk and Luhansk regions since they declared independence in 2014, weeks after Russia's annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula. Russia captured the southern Kherson region and part of neighboring Zaporizhzhia soon after Putin sent troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24.
The Kremlin-controlled Russian parliament will meet next week to rubber-stamp the annexation treaties, sending them to Putin for final approval.
The orchestrated process went into a celebratory phase Friday night, with thousands gathered in Red Square for a concert and rally that Putin joined. Many waved Russian flags as entertainers from Russia and occupied parts of Ukraine performed patriotic songs. Russian media reported employees of state-run companies and institutions were told to attend, and students were allowed to skip classes.
Putin's land grab and a partial troop mobilization were attempts to avoid more battlefield defeats that could threaten his 22-year rule. By formalizing Russia’s gains, he seemingly hopes to scare Ukraine and its Western backers by threatening to escalate the conflict unless they back down — which they show no signs of doing.
Russia controls most of the Luhansk and Kherson regions, about 60% of the Donetsk region and a large chunk of the Zaporizhzhia region, where it seized Europe’s largest nuclear power plant.
But the Kremlin is on the verge of another stinging military loss, with reports of the imminent Ukrainian encirclement of the eastern city of Lyman. Retaking it could open the path for Ukraine to push deep into Luhansk, one of the annexed regions.
“It looks quite pathetic. Ukrainians are doing something, taking steps in the real material world, while the Kremlin is building some kind of a virtual reality, incapable of responding in the real world,” former Kremlin speechwriter-turned-analyst Abbas Gallyamov said, adding that "the Kremlin cannot offer anything сomforting to the Russians.”
Russia pounded Ukrainian cities with missiles, rockets and suicide drones in Moscow’s heaviest barrage in weeks, with one strike in the Zaporizhzhia region’s capital killing 30 and wounding 88.
In the Zaporizhzhia attack, anti-aircraft missiles that Russia has repurposed as ground-attack weapons rained down on people waiting in cars to cross into Russian-occupied territory so they could bring family members back across front lines, said Kyrylo Tymoshenko, deputy head of Ukraine’s presidential office.
Russian-installed officials in Zaporizhzhia blamed Ukrainian forces, but gave no evidence.
The strike left deep craters and sent shrapnel tearing into the humanitarian convoy, killing passengers. Nearby buildings were demolished. Bodies were later covered with trash bags, blankets and, for one victim, a blood-soaked towel.
A Ukrainian counteroffensive has deprived Moscow of battlefield mastery. Its hold on the Luhansk region appears increasingly shaky, as Ukrainian forces make inroads with the pincer assault on Lyman, a key node for Russian military operations in the Donbas and a sought-after prize. The Russian-backed separatist leader of Donetsk, Denis Pushilin, said Ukrainian forces have “half-encircled” Lyman. Ukraine maintains a large foothold in the neighboring Donetsk region.
Russian strikes were also reported in the city of Dnipro. Regional Gov. Valentyn Reznichenko said at least three people were killed and five were wounded.
Ukraine’s air force said the southern cities of Mykolaiv and Odesa were targeted with Iranian-supplied suicide drones that Russia has increasingly deployed.
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By LORI HINNANT, EVGENIY MALOLETKA and VASILISA STEPANENKOTodayIZIUM, Ukraine (AP) — The first time the Russian soldiers caught him, they tossed him bound and blindfolded into a trench covered with wooden boards for days on end.
Then they beat him, over and over: Legs, arms, a hammer to the knees, all accompanied by furious diatribes against Ukraine. Before they let him go, they took away his passport and Ukrainian military ID — all he had to prove his existence — and made sure he knew exactly how worthless his life was.
“No one needs you,” the commander taunted. “We can shoot you any time, bury you a half-meter underground and that’s it.”
The brutal encounter at the end of March was just the start. Andriy Kotsar would be captured and tortured twice more by Russian forces in Izium, and the pain would be even worse.
Andriy Kotsar, who was tortured by Russian soldiers, sits at a table after a service at Pishchanskyi church. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)Russian torture in Izium was arbitrary, widespread and absolutely routine for both civilians and soldiers throughout the city, an Associated Press investigation has found. While torture was also evident in Bucha, that devastated Kyiv suburb was only occupied for a month. Izium served as a hub for Russian soldiers for nearly seven months, during which they established torture sites everywhere.
Based on accounts of survivors and police, AP journalists located 10 torture sites in the town and gained access to five of them. They included a deep sunless pit in a residential compound with dates carved in the brick wall, a clammy underground jail that reeked of urine and rotting food, a medical clinic, a police station and a kindergarten.
The AP spoke to 15 survivors of Russian torture in the Kharkiv region, as well as two families whose loved ones disappeared into Russian hands. Two of the men were taken repeatedly and abused. One battered, unconscious Ukrainian soldier was displayed to his wife to force her to provide information she simply didn't have.
The AP also confirmed eight men were killed under torture in Russian custody, according to survivors and families. All but one were civilians.
At a mass grave site created by the Russians and discovered in the woods of Izium, at least 30 of the 447 bodies recently excavated bore visible marks of torture — bound hands, close gunshot wounds, knife wounds and broken limbs, according to the Kharkiv regional prosecutor’s office. Those injuries corresponded to the descriptions of the pain inflicted upon the survivors.
AP journalists also saw bodies with bound wrists at the mass grave. Amid the trees were hundreds of simple wooden crosses, most marked only with numbers. One said it contained the bodies of 17 Ukrainian soldiers. At least two more mass graves have been found in the town, all heavily mined, authorities said.
Unidentified graves of civilians and Ukrainian soldiers are marked with a cross in a cemetery. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)A physician who treated hundreds of Izium’s injured during the Russian occupation said people regularly arrived at his emergency room with injuries consistent with torture, including gunshots to their hands and feet, broken bones and severe bruising, and burns. None would explain their wounds, he said.
“Even if people came to the hospital, silence was the norm,” chief Dr. Yuriy Kuznetsov said. He added that one soldier came in for treatment for hand injuries, clearly from being cuffed, but the man refused to say what happened.
Men with links to Ukrainian forces were singled out repeatedly for torture, but any adult man risked getting caught up. Matilda Bogner, the head of the U.N. human rights mission in Ukraine, told the AP they had documented “widespread practices of torture or ill-treatment of civilian detainees” by Russian forces and affiliates. Torture of soldiers was also systemic, she said.
Torture in any form during an armed conflict is a war crime under the Geneva Conventions, whether of prisoners of war or civilians.
“It serves three purposes,” said Rachel Denber of Human Rights Watch. “Torture came with questions to coerce information, but it is also to punish and to sow fear. It is to send a chilling message to everyone else.”
NO SAFE HAVEN
AP journalists found Kotsar, 26, hiding in a monastery in Izium, his blond hair tied back neatly in the Orthodox fashion and his beard curling beneath his chin. He had no way to safely contact his loved ones, who thought he was dead.
Back in March, after his first round of torture, Kotsar fled to the gold-domed Pishchanskyi church. Russian soldiers were everywhere, and nowhere in Izium was safe.
Hiding amid the icons, Kotsar listened to the rumble of Russian armored vehicles outside and contemplated suicide. He had been a soldier for just under a month and had no idea if anyone in his little unit had survived the Russian onslaught.
When he emerged from the church a few days later, a Russian patrol caught him. They kept him a week. His captors’ idea of a joke was to shave his legs with a knife, and then debate aloud whether to slice off the limb entirely.
“They took, I don’t know what exactly, some iron, maybe glass rods, and burned the skin little by little,” he said.
Andriy Kotsar, right, who was tortured by Russian soldiers, takes part in a procession near Pishchanskyi church. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)Andriy Kotsar, who was tortured by Russian soldiers, feeds birds. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)Andriy Kotsar, who was tortured by Russian soldiers, kisses a cross during a service at Pishchanskyi church. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)Andriy Kotsar, who was tortured by Russian soldiers, carries buckets with water near Pishchanskyi monastery. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)He knew nothing that could help them. So they set him free again, and again he sought refuge with the monks. He had nowhere else to go.
By then, the church and monastery compound had become a shelter for around 100 people, including 40 children. Kotsar took up a version of the monastic life, living with the black-robed brothers, helping them care for the refugees and spending his free hours standing before the gilt icons in contemplation.
In the meantime, Izium was transforming into a Russian logistical hub. The town was swarming with troops, and its electricity, gas, water and phone networks were severed. Izium was effectively cut off from the rest of Ukraine.
A Ukrainian serviceman inspects a kindergarten basement which was used by Russian forces. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)SCREAMS IN THE NIGHT
It was also in the spring that the Russians first sought out Mykola Mosyakyn, driving down the rutted dirt roads until they reached the Ukrainian soldier’s fenced cottage. Mosyakyn, 38, had enlisted after the war began, though not in the same unit as Kotsar.
They tossed him into a pit with standing water, handcuffed him and hung him by the restraints until his skin went numb. They waited in vain for him to talk, and tried again.
“They beat me with sticks. They hit me with their hands, they kicked me, they put out cigarettes on me, they pressed matches on me,” he recounted. “They said, ‘Dance,’ but I did not dance. So they shot my feet."
After three days they dropped him near the hospital with the command: “Tell them you had an accident.”
At least two other men from Mosyakyn’s neighborhood, a father and son who are both civilians, were taken at the same time. The father speaks about his two weeks in the basement cell in a whisper, staring at the ground. His adult son refuses to speak about it at all.
(AP Video/Vasilisa Stepanenko and Allen Breed)That family, along with another man who was also tortured in the basement cell on Izium’s east bank, spoke on condition of anonymity. They are terrified the Russians will return.
Mosyakyn was captured again by a different Russian unit just a few days later. This time, he found himself in School No. 2, subject to routine beatings along with other Ukrainians. AP journalists found a discarded Ukrainian soldier’s jacket in the same blue cell he described in detail. The school also served as a base and field hospital for Russian soldiers, and at least two Ukrainian civilians held there died.
But the soldiers again freed Mosyakyn. To this day, he doesn’t know why.
Nor does he understand why they’d release him just to recapture him a few days later and haul him to a crowded garage of a medical clinic near the railroad tracks. More than a dozen other Ukrainians were jailed with him, soldiers and civilians. Two garages were for men, one for women and a bigger one — the only one with a window — for Russian soldiers.
Women were held in the garage closest to the soldiers’ quarters. Their screams came at night, according to Mosyakyn and Kotsar, who were both held at the clinic at different times. Ukrainian intelligence officials said they were raped regularly.
Mykola Mosyakyn stands in a room of a former medical clinic where Russian forces tortured him. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)Mykola Mosyakyn shows scars on his back after torture by Russian soldiers. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)A church can be seen in the distance through an apartment building destroyed by an airstrike. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)For the men, Room 6 was for electrocution. Room 9 was for waterboarding, Mosyakyn said. He described how they covered his face with a cloth bag and poured water from a kettle onto him to mimic the sensation of drowning. They also hooked up his toes to electricity and shocked him with electrodes on his ears.
It was here that Mosyakyn watched Russian soldiers drag out the lifeless bodies of two civilians they’d tortured to death, both from Izium’s Gonkharovka neighborhood.
Kotsar was taken to the clinic in July and received a slightly different treatment, involving a Soviet-era gas mask and electrodes on his legs. AP journalists also found gas masks at two schools.
By the time Kotsar arrived, people had already been there for 12 to 16 days. They told him arms and legs were broken, and people taken out to be shot. He vowed that if he survived, he would never allow himself to be captured again.
They released him after a couple of weeks. He craved familiar faces and people who meant him no harm. He returned to the monks.
“When I came out, everything was green. It was very, very strange, because there had been absolutely no color,” he said. “Everything was wonderful, so vivid.”
Ukrainian servicemen inspect a kindergarten which was used by Russian forces. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)A man walks through a sports gym in School No. 2 which was used as a base and field hospital for Russian soldiers. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)Soviet-era gas masks lie on the floor at the corridor of School No. 2 which was used as a Russian military base and torture site. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)SHALLOW GRAVE
In mid-August, the bodies of three men were found in a shallow forested pit on the town’s outskirts.
Ivan Shabelnyk left home with a friend on March 23 to collect pine cones so the family could light the samovar and have tea. They never came back.
Another man taken with them reluctantly told Shabelnyk’s family about the torture they’d all endured together, first in the basement of a nearby house and then in School No. 2. Then he left town.
Their bodies were found in mid-August, in the last days of the occupation, by a man scavenging for firewood. He followed the smell of death to a shallow grave in the forest.
Shabelnyk’s hands were shot, his ribs broken, his face unrecognizable. They identified him by the jacket he wore, from the local grain factory where he worked. His grieving mother showed the AP a photo.
“He kept this photo with him, of us together when he was a small boy,” said Ludmila Shabelnyk, in tears. “Why did they destroy people like him? I don’t understand. Why has this happened to our country?”
His sister, Olha Zaparozhchenko, walked with journalists through the cemetery and looked at his grave.
“They tortured civilians at will, like bullies,” she said. “I have only one word: genocide.”
The Kharkiv region’s chief prosecutor, Oleksandr Filchakov, told the AP it was too soon to determine how many people were tortured in Izium, but said it easily numbered into the dozens.
“Every day, many people call us with information, people who were in the occupied territories,” he said. “Every day, relatives come to us and say their friends, their family, were tortured by Russian soldiers.”
Olha Zaparozhchenko stands near the grave of her brother Ivan Shabelnyk, left. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)Ludmila Shabelnyk cries while showing photographs of her son Ivan Shabelnyk. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)Ludmila Shabelnyk shows photographs of her son Ivan Shabelnyk. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)Damaged and destroyed homes are visible from Russian attacks. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)MISSING NO MORE
After his final escape, Kotsar hid in the monastery for more than a month. Without documents and a phone connection to prove his identity, he was too afraid to leave.
Kotsar’s family had no idea what happened to him. They had simply reported him missing, like so many other Ukrainian soldiers caught on the wrong side of the frontline.
He spoke with effort to AP journalists, and at one point asked them to turn off the camera so he could compose himself. The AP contacted the Commissioner for Issues of Missing Persons Under Special Circumstances, which confirmed the missing person report and his identity through a photo on file. Then Kotsar’s own unit, which had left Izium in disarray, returned and tracked him down.
Kotsar doesn't know what comes next. Ukrainian officials are still in the process of restoring his identity documents, and without them he can’t go anywhere. He would like psychological treatment to deal with the trauma from repeated torture, and for now he’s staying with the monks.
“If it weren’t for them, I probably wouldn’t have survived at all,” he said. “They saved me.”
Kotsar’s first call was to the sister of his best friend — the only person in his entire circle of loved ones he was certain was in a safe place. He grinned as the connection went through.
“Tell him I’m alive,” he said. “Tell him I’m alive and in one piece.”
Holding cells are visible in a basement of a police station that was used by Russian forces to detain and torture Ukrainians. (AP Photo/Evgeniy Maloletka)___
Sarah El Deeb contributed from Beirut.
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https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-zelenskyy-business-moscow-3e56d9f40590b8cca06b1b8aa6b65abdUkraine presses on with counteroffensive; Russia uses dronesBy JON GAMBRELL20 mins ago
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Russia attacked the Ukrainian president’s hometown and other targets Sunday with suicide drones, and Ukraine took back full control of a strategic eastern city in a counteroffensive that has reshaped the war.
Russia’s loss of the eastern city of Lyman, which it had been using as a transport and logistics hub, is a new blow to the Kremlin as it seeks to escalate the war by illegally annexing four regions of Ukraine and heightening threats to use nuclear force.
Russian President Vladimir Putin's land grab has threatened to push the conflict to a dangerous new level. It also prompted Ukraine to formally apply for fast-track NATO membership.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy announced Sunday that his forces now control Lyman: “As of 12:30 p.m. (0930 GMT) Lyman is cleared fully. Thank you to our militaries, our warriors," he said in a video address.
Russia's military didn't comment Sunday on Lyman, after announcing Saturday that it was withdrawing its forces there to more favorable positions.
The British military described the recapture of Lyman as a “significant political setback” for Moscow, and Ukraine appeared to swiftly capitalize on its gains.
Hours after Zelenskyy's announcement, Ukrainian media shared an image of Ukrainian troops carrying the country's yellow-and-blue flag in front of a statue marking the village of Torske, 15 kilometers (9 miles) east of Lyman and within sight of the Russian-held Luhansk region.
Shortly later, a video posted online showed one Ukrainian soldier saying that Kyiv's forces had begun to target the city of Kreminna, just across the border in Luhansk. Outgoing artillery could be heard in the background. Russian military correspondents also acknowledged Ukrainian attacks targeting Kreminna.
In another online photo, an Ukrainian soldier stood before giant watermelon landmark just south of the village of Novovorontsovka on the banks of the Dnieper River, along the Russian-controlled province of Kherson's northern edge. A Ukrainian flag flew above the statue as several apparently deactivated landmines lay beside it.
While Ukrainian forces did not immediately acknowledge a breakthrough, writers close to the Russian military have described a new offensive by Kyiv in the Kherson region.
In southern Ukraine, Zelenskyy's hometown of Krivyi Rih came under Russian attack by a suicide drone that destroyed two stories of a school early Sunday, the regional governor said. The Ukrainian air force said Sunday it shot down five Iranian-made drones overnight, while two others made it through air defenses.
A car carrying four men seeking to forage for mushrooms in Ukraine’s Chernihiv region struck a mine, killing all those inside, authorities said Sunday.
The reports of military activity couldn't be immediately verified.
Ukrainian forces have retaken swaths of territory, notably in the northeast around Kharkiv, in a counteroffensive in recent weeks that has embarrassed the Kremlin and prompted rare domestic criticism of Putin's war.
Lyman, which Ukraine recaptured by encircling Russian troops, is in the Donetsk region near the border with Luhansk, two of the four regions that Russia illegally annexed Friday after forcing what was left of the population to vote in referendums at gunpoint.
In his nightly address, Zelenskyy said: “Over the past week, there have been more Ukrainian flags in the Donbas. In a week there will be even more.”
In a daily intelligence briefing Sunday, the British Defense Ministry called Lyman crucial because it has “a key road crossing over the Siversky Donets River, behind which Russia has been attempting to consolidate its defenses.”
The Russian retreat from northeast Ukraine in recent weeks has revealed evidence of widespread, routine torture of both civilians and soldiers, notably in the strategic city of Izium, an Associated Press investigation has found.
AP journalists located 10 torture sites in the town, including a deep pit in a residential compound, a clammy underground jail that reeked of urine, a medical clinic and a kindergarten.
Recent developments have raised fears of all-out conflict between Russia and the West.
Putin frames the recent Ukrainian gains — along with NATO's post-Soviet expansion — as a U.S.-orchestrated effort to destroy Russia, and last week he heightened threats of nuclear force in some of his toughest, most anti-Western rhetoric to date.
Nine central and eastern European NATO members fearful that Russia’s aggression could eventually target them, too, issued a letter of support Sunday for Ukraine.
The leaders of Czechia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, North Macedonia, Montenegro, Poland, Romania and Slovakia issued a joint statement Sunday backing a path to NATO membership for Ukraine, and calling on all 30 members of the U.S.-led security bloc to ramp up military aid for Kyiv.
Germany's defense minister on Sunday announced the delivery of 16 wheeled armored howitzers produced in Slovakia to Ukraine next year. The weapons will be financed jointly with Denmark, Norway and Germany,
Russia moved ahead Sunday with steps meant to make its land grab look like a legal process aimed at helping people allegedly persecuted by Kyiv, with rubber-stamp approval by the Constitutional Court and draft laws being pushed through the Kremlin-friendly parliament.
Outside Russia, the Kremlin's actions have been widely denounced as violating international law, with multiple EU countries summoning Russian ambassadors since Putin on Friday signed annexation treaties with Moscow-backed officials in southern and eastern Ukraine.
Meanwhile, international concerns are mounting about the fate of Europe's largest nuclear plant after Russian forces detained its director for alleged questioning.
The International Atomic Energy Agency announced Sunday that its director-general, Rafael Grossi would visit Kyiv and Moscow in the coming days to discuss the situation around the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. Grossi is continuing to push for “a nuclear safety and security zone” around the site.
The Zaporizhzhia plant is in one of the four regions that Moscow illegally annexed on Friday, and repeatedly has been caught in the crossfire of the war. Ukrainian technicians have continued running the power station after Russian troops seized it but its last reactor was shut down in September as a precautionary measure.
Pope Francis on Sunday decried Russia's nuclear threats and appealed to Putin to stop “this spiral of violence and death.”
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By MICHAEL BIESECKER, SARAH EL DEEB and BEATRICE DUPUYTodayBEIRUT (AP) — When the bulk cargo ship Laodicea docked in Lebanon last summer, Ukrainian diplomats said the vessel was carrying grain stolen by Russia and urged Lebanese officials to impound the ship.
Moscow called the allegation “false and baseless,” and Lebanon’s prosecutor general sided with the Kremlin and declared that the 10,000 tons of barley and wheat flour wasn’t stolen and allowed the ship to unload.
But an investigation by The Associated Press and the PBS series “Frontline” has found the Laodicea, owned by Syria, is part of a sophisticated Russian-run smuggling operation that has used falsified manifests and seaborne subterfuge to steal Ukrainian grain worth at least $530 million — cash that has helped feed President Vladimir Putin’s war machine.
AP used satellite imagery and marine radio transponder data to track three dozen ships making more than 50 voyages carrying grain from Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine to ports in Turkey, Syria, Lebanon and other countries. Reporters reviewed shipping manifests, searched social media posts, and interviewed farmers, shippers and corporate officials to uncover the details of the massive smuggling operation.
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This story is part of an AP/FRONTLINE investigation that includes the War Crimes Watch Ukraine interactive experience and and upcoming documentary, “Putin’s Attack on Ukraine: Documenting War Crimes,” which premieres 10/9c Oct. 25 on PBS.
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The ongoing theft, which legal experts say is a potential war crime, is being carried out by wealthy businessmen and state-owned companies in Russia and Syria, some of them already facing financial sanctions from the United States and European Union.
Meanwhile, the Russian military has attacked farms, grain silos and shipping facilities still under Ukrainian control with artillery and air strikes, destroying food, driving up prices and reducing the flow of grain from a country long known as the breadbasket of Europe.
This image from video provided on Friday, July 29, 2022, shows the cargo ship Laodicea docked at a seaport in Tripoli, Lebanon. Lebanese officials rejected protests from Ukraine that the ship was carrying 10,000 metric tons of grain stolen by Russia. However, satellite imagery reviewed by The Associated Press shows the ship had been loaded two weeks earlier in Crimea, a part of Ukraine occupied by Russia. (AP Photo)The Russians “have an absolute obligation to ensure that civilians are cared for and to not deprive them their ability of a livelihood and an ability to feed themselves,” said David Crane, a veteran prosecutor who has been involved in numerous international war crime investigations. “It’s just pure pillaging and looting, and that is also an actionable offense under international military law.”
The grain and flour carried by the 138-meter-long (453 feet) Laodicea likely started its journey in the southern Ukrainian city of Melitopol, which Russia seized in the early days of the war.
Video posted to social media on July 9 shows a train pulling up to the Melitopol Elevator, a massive grain storage facility, with green hopper cars marked with the name of the Russian company Agro-Fregat LLC in big yellow letters, along with a logo in the shape of a spike of wheat.
Russian occupation official Andrey Siguta held a news conference at the depot the following week where he said the grain would “provide food security” for Russia-controlled regions in Ukraine, and that his administration would “evaluate the harvest and determine how much will be for sale.”
As he spoke, a masked soldier armed with an assault rifle stood guard as trucks unloaded wheat at the facility to be milled. Workers loaded flour into large white bags like those delivered by the Laodicea to Lebanon three weeks later.
VIDEO: Stolen Ukrainian Grain Fueling Putin’s War Machine
Siguta, along with four other top Russian occupation officials, was sanctioned by the U.S. government on Sept. 15 for overseeing the theft and export of Ukranian grain.
Putin signed treaties Friday to annex four occupied regions of Ukraine into the Russian Federation, in defiance of international law. The United States and European Union immediately rejected “the illegal annexation.”
Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov told AP the occupiers are moving vast quantities of grain from the region by train and truck to ports in Russia and Crimea, a strategic Ukrainian peninsula that Russia has occupied since 2014. Despite Russian claims to have annexed Crimea, the United Nations ruled that land grab was also illegal.
A farmer holds grain in his barn in the village of Ptyche in eastern Donetsk region, Ukraine, Sunday, June 12, 2022. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)Next to a crater left by a Russian rocket, a farmer harvests a field 10 kilometers (6 miles) from the front line between Russian and Ukranian forces, in the Dnipropetrovsk region, Ukraine, Monday, July 4, 2022. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)Videos posted on social media in recent months show a steady stream of grain transport trucks moving south through occupied areas of Ukraine with the letter “Z” painted on their sides, a wartime symbol for Russia and its military forces. Agro-Fregat train cars have been recorded rolling through the Crimean port town of Feodosia, where satellite imagery shows trucks and trains lined up as grain was being loaded onto ships.
The Kremlin has denied stealing any grain, but Russia’s state-run news agency Tass reported on June 16 that Ukrainian grain was being trucked to Crimea, resulting in long lines at border checkpoints. Tass later reported that grain from Melitopol had arrived in Crimea and that additional shipments were expected, bound for customers in the Middle East and Africa.
A July 11 satellite image shows the Laodicea tied up at a pier in Feodosia. The ship’s radio transponder was turned off and its cargo holds were open, being filled with a white substance from waiting trucks. Two weeks later, when it arrived at the Lebanese port city Tripoli, it claimed to be carrying grain from a small Russian port on the other side of the Black Sea.
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I think Roger Waters has finally gone off the deep end:
https://www.stereogum.com/2201705/roger-waters-claims-hes-on-a-ukrainian-kill-list/news/
Roger Waters has claimed to be on a Ukrainian “kill list,” telling Rolling Stone: “Don’t forget, I’m on a kill list that is supported by the Ukrainian government. I’m on the fucking list, and they’ve killed people recently.… But when they kill you, they write ‘liquidated’ across your picture. Well, I’m one of those fucking pictures.” The Pink Floyd co-founder, in recent months, has been an overtly political presence in the media and on his This Is Not A Drill tour, which displays a “War Criminals” montage with a photo of Joe Biden. He also recently wrote an open letter to the Ukrainian first lady asking her to encourage her husband, President Volodymyr Zelensky, to sue for peace with Russia.Waters has previously gone on the record numerous times as being against the war in Ukraine (among many other global issues), which has been under siege by neighboring Russia since early 2022. In his interview with Rolling Stone, Waters calls the documented Russian war crimes in Ukraine “lies, lies, lies” told by “Western media propaganda.”
“And when I read stuff, which I have done in blogs and things, criticizing me for my … I always go and look and see where it came from,” he says. “And it’s amazing how often when I’ve done the hunt and hunted it down, it is da, da, da.ukraine.org.”
As Rolling Stone lays out, Waters being on a Ukraine government “kill list” is not entirely true. It’s also not not true. There reportedly is a list maintained by a far-right Ukrainian organization that contains thousands of names of people perceived to be enemies. The site has been “roundly internationally condemned” but not taken down by the Ukrainian government. The site also claims not to be a “kill list” but instead “information for law enforcement authorities and special services.”
Ultimately, Rogers blames NATO for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, calling the ongoing situation an “unnecessary war.” He adds: “And those people should not be dying. And Russia should not have been encouraged to invade the Ukraine after they tried for 20 years to avoid it by suggesting diplomatic measures to Western governments.” Read Rolling Stone‘s full interview with Waters here.
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You know, I really used to like Roger Waters. I thought he was misguided in his anti-Israel stance, but now I think it's more than that. His position on Ukraine is just awful. I don't understand how someone that is so left, rotates to the right.0
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mrussel1 said:You know, I really used to like Roger Waters. I thought he was misguided in his anti-Israel stance, but now I think it's more than that. His position on Ukraine is just awful. I don't understand how someone that is so left, rotates to the right.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:You know, I really used to like Roger Waters. I thought he was misguided in his anti-Israel stance, but now I think it's more than that. His position on Ukraine is just awful. I don't understand how someone that is so left, rotates to the right.0
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nicknyr15 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:You know, I really used to like Roger Waters. I thought he was misguided in his anti-Israel stance, but now I think it's more than that. His position on Ukraine is just awful. I don't understand how someone that is so left, rotates to the right.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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nicknyr15 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:You know, I really used to like Roger Waters. I thought he was misguided in his anti-Israel stance, but now I think it's more than that. His position on Ukraine is just awful. I don't understand how someone that is so left, rotates to the right.0
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I read the actual transcript and it comes off as less unhinged than the reporter paints it in his piece. He isn't wrong that the Israel government is sanctioning annexation of Palestinian lands and homes and has been doing so for quite a while. I didn't read any anti=semitism in the piece. Of course I am taking the comments of funding as pointing towards AIPAC types and the direct atrocities that are being committed daily on the Palestinians , rather than on Jewish people in general.
I think he is wrong on Ukraine on certain aspects. He condemns Putin and Russia in the actual interview, then goes on to talk about the west provoking Russia, and that this doesn't justify the Russian response. In reference to the interviewer bringing up a theme of his show being you can't have occupation and human rights, he says" its true of every occupation. It's true of the Russian invasion of the Ukraine. true of every occupation. It's true of the Russian invasion of the Ukraine. It's true of all occupations, of all land by any imperialist power."
I think he is wrong in not believing there are any instances of human rights violations as these things are being pretty well documented. He gets very argumentative with the reporter with a back and forth of who gets the facts where and how believable sources can be. here is an excerpt from the interview.
Ball: | mean isn't it up to Ukraine to resolve it? Not up to America. | mean this the issue with this frame. of the world. Its great power politics. Don't we believe i the right people to self determination? ‘
Waters: Yes. But the people of the Ukraine elected Zelenskyy as their new president and hopefully their new government in 2019, on the platform that he was going to end the Civil War, as they called it then, in the Donbas, implement the Minsk I agreements, and it's make peace with the Russian and Federation by saying that they would not join NATO. That is the platform he stood on and he got-
Ball: think the Ukrainian public position on that probably moved somewhat when Russia moved 200,000 troops into- ‘
Waters: Well, they didn't do it. They didn't do it. That was three years ago. That's three years ago. Somebody held a gun to Zelenskyy's head and said, "You're not doing that. We don't want you to do that.” Or why did he change his mind? Why did policy change?
Ball: | don't think anyone forces someone to send in 200,000troops andheavy armor. ‘
Waters: Im not saying that, Ball. I'm not an idiot. I'm not saying anyone forced Putin. | was surprised ‘when they invaded. But | was also interested in the language that they used, the special military operation. And also point 8 was that they wanted to de-Nazify. Well that's different because there ‘weren't many Nazi in the Donbas, but there's a lot in the government in Kyiv. So those two things are somewhat self contradictory | think. Though | do understand the concern after the Maidan coup over the fact that the Russians believe that Ukraine is ruled by Nazis. And they may be right or not. “This is why the whole thing of everybody pouring so much energy into propaganda makes it so difficult for people like you and me, who care about the truth, to delve into it and turn the stones over and try. and find out what the truth is. would love to know what the truth is about Russian's raping babies or not and all of that. And the graves that they've found in the -
Ball: The ICC and the UN do have war crime investigators there. We're not just relying on media or relying on Ukrainian government reports, which obviously are going to be unreliable. I's war time. There are independent bodies there that ae finding early evidence of this and are launching ful scale: investigations. We've got to believe in something, haven't we? ‘
Waters: Yes, we have. But the problem s, Ball is that when we send people in to do these jobs, if they come up with inconvenient truths, they are rejected. Look at the invasion of Iraq in 2003. I know you'll g0, "Oh yeah, well ”Yeah, of course they lied about weapons of mass destruction, openly in the United Nations. Colin Powell on the floor of the General Assembly making his speech. "We have intelligence. We know that Saddam Hussein could bomb..." TonyBlair was telling us, "Saddam Hussein" could bomb. Cypress or something in 45 minutes with a nuclear weapon. | mean, we can grin about it, but a million ragsdied, and Hans Blix was oneofthe major... Theywent and they said, there aren't anyweapons of mass destruction. And they told them all and they went, “We're not interested."
Ball: Yeah. Although he was allowed to say that it was there, the UN didn't endorse the invasion. Most of the USA's allies didn't endorse the invasion. That the UN then could say or its investigators could say we can't see this ‘"
So sure the guy is a little out there on somethings and is maybe off the majority view but he doesn't come off as anti semitic or anti Ukraine when looking at the interview in context. It is pretty clear that he sees this as a battle between Russia and western powers, chiefly the US...from that perspective it seems like a needless war. To the people of Ukraine it is a fight for their land and survival. I don't think it is as cut and dried as either or, but I absolutely believe that the people of Ukraine should be fighting for their country. I am not sure we will know all the facts about Russia V Ukraine until the war is over and the histories are written, and even then I will be a little skeptical.
My take is that there is definitely some crazy in that interview but not nearly as much or as bad as the interviewer's story presents. For the full transcript see https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23117683-rogerwaters_jamesball_editedtranscript?responsive=1&sidebar=0&title=1
Also a link to the site that keeps the kill list. trigger warning there are gruesome pictures of what I assume are dead Russian soldiers purportedly posted so their mothers will see them.
https://myrotvorets-center.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
and Waters alleged Hitlist page.... People on the list have been killed and after the word Liquidated appears on their image
https://myrotvorets.center/criminal/uoters-rodzher/Scio me nihil scire
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Thanks for the sharing this. It takes a bit of the edge off, but it's still a terrible mistake by Roger. He's an international figure and he is blurring the lines. In a time like this, you have to speak with moral clarity, and he is not. In 1936, one could make an argument that Germany was justified in some of their early aggressions because of the oppression of Versailles. And many did, in the United States. Squishy statements embolden dictators, giving them a chance to divide the West. Roger Waters is old enough to know better. And if he does, and still makes these statements, he's a fool and maybe worse.0
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mrussel1 said:Thanks for the sharing this. It takes a bit of the edge off, but it's still a terrible mistake by Roger. He's an international figure and he is blurring the lines. In a time like this, you have to speak with moral clarity, and he is not. In 1936, one could make an argument that Germany was justified in some of their early aggressions because of the oppression of Versailles. And many did, in the United States. Squishy statements embolden dictators, giving them a chance to divide the West. Roger Waters is old enough to know better. And if he does, and still makes these statements, he's a fool and maybe worse.
my impression during the show we left early is he seemed to relish being in the run like hell regalia
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mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:Thanks for the sharing this. It takes a bit of the edge off, but it's still a terrible mistake by Roger. He's an international figure and he is blurring the lines. In a time like this, you have to speak with moral clarity, and he is not. In 1936, one could make an argument that Germany was justified in some of their early aggressions because of the oppression of Versailles. And many did, in the United States. Squishy statements embolden dictators, giving them a chance to divide the West. Roger Waters is old enough to know better. And if he does, and still makes these statements, he's a fool and maybe worse.
my impression during the show we left early is he seemed to relish being in the run like hell regalia
I saw him on the last tour, during the Trump presidency, and he was clearly anti-Trump. But he was not anti-US, pro Russia or anything remotely close.0
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