Reclaiming Environmentalism

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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 2022
    stuckinline said:
    brianlux said:
    stuckinline said:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/06/02/california-water-restrictions-drought/7484037001/

    Would it be possible for communities to use grey water to flush toilets and water lawns? Or better yet, replace portions of lawns with plants that don't need to be watered or mowed.

    It could be done, but in most places it's illegal. 
    This will give you an idea of how (NOT) seriously many people are taking the water shortage her in the west:

    Which U.S. Cities Have the Most Homes With Swimming Pools?

    Phoenix, with a desert-type climate, is at the top with 32.7% of homes having a pool installed.



    I wonder what will it take for people to take the water shortage seriously? 
    We have a fresh water shortage and I saw an article today that the Greenland melting will raise sea level a foot and it’s too late to stop it.

    I really don’t think people understand sea level rise and a drought can happen at once.  You can’t drink ocean water but they seem to be confused at these scientists and their mixed messages.  You can’t have both too much water and too little right?

    unless they think we can somehow pipe it in direct from the glacier to Arizona 

    whatever happens though the democrats will be blamed for rationing water that there isn’t enough of.  They are coming for your pools 

    I still think the worst thing to ever happen to the environment was Al Gore. Not because of the content but because it made the issue political, at least to republicans. We have never recovered from that. A non partisan issue being partisan at the worst possible moment.
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    stuckinline said:
    brianlux said:
    stuckinline said:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/06/02/california-water-restrictions-drought/7484037001/

    Would it be possible for communities to use grey water to flush toilets and water lawns? Or better yet, replace portions of lawns with plants that don't need to be watered or mowed.

    It could be done, but in most places it's illegal. 
    This will give you an idea of how (NOT) seriously many people are taking the water shortage her in the west:

    Which U.S. Cities Have the Most Homes With Swimming Pools?

    Phoenix, with a desert-type climate, is at the top with 32.7% of homes having a pool installed.



    I wonder what will it take for people to take the water shortage seriously? 
    Standing in line waiting for drinking water while everyone’s holding an AR 15 because by then we’ll all need one 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    cblock4life said:
    stuckinline said:
    brianlux said:
    stuckinline said:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/06/02/california-water-restrictions-drought/7484037001/

    Would it be possible for communities to use grey water to flush toilets and water lawns? Or better yet, replace portions of lawns with plants that don't need to be watered or mowed.

    It could be done, but in most places it's illegal. 
    This will give you an idea of how (NOT) seriously many people are taking the water shortage her in the west:

    Which U.S. Cities Have the Most Homes With Swimming Pools?

    Phoenix, with a desert-type climate, is at the top with 32.7% of homes having a pool installed.



    I wonder what will it take for people to take the water shortage seriously? 
    Standing in line waiting for drinking water while everyone’s holding an AR 15 because by then we’ll all need one 

    Yeah, it's gonna get rough.  We're going to see rationing and regulations that will be responded to by MAGATs, water wars, and, sadly, deaths due to dehydration and heat exposure.
    And let's face it, as much as most of us love her, Mother Nature has no tolerance and makes no exceptions for stupidity.

    And in other environmental news, check out this unsettling bit of news.

    The coup d'état applies to the U.S. branch of Sea Shepherds only.  I am changing my alliance to Sea Shepherd Global, the organization that continues to carry out the work of the original Sea Shepherd Conservation Society.  The founder of that organization, Captain Paul Watson has moved on to Sea Shepherd Global.  You can check them out here:



    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 2022
    brianlux said:
    cblock4life said:
    stuckinline said:
    brianlux said:
    stuckinline said:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/06/02/california-water-restrictions-drought/7484037001/

    Would it be possible for communities to use grey water to flush toilets and water lawns? Or better yet, replace portions of lawns with plants that don't need to be watered or mowed.

    It could be done, but in most places it's illegal. 
    This will give you an idea of how (NOT) seriously many people are taking the water shortage her in the west:

    Which U.S. Cities Have the Most Homes With Swimming Pools?

    Phoenix, with a desert-type climate, is at the top with 32.7% of homes having a pool installed.



    I wonder what will it take for people to take the water shortage seriously? 
    Standing in line waiting for drinking water while everyone’s holding an AR 15 because by then we’ll all need one 

    Yeah, it's gonna get rough.  We're going to see rationing and regulations that will be responded to by MAGATs, water wars, and, sadly, deaths due to dehydration and heat exposure.
    And let's face it, as much as most of us love her, Mother Nature has no tolerance and makes no exceptions for stupidity.

    And in other environmental news, check out this unsettling bit of news.

    The coup d'état applies to the U.S. branch of Sea Shepherds only.  I am changing my alliance to Sea Shepherd Global, the organization that continues to carry out the work of the original Sea Shepherd Conservation Society.  The founder of that organization, Captain Paul Watson has moved on to Sea Shepherd Global.  You can check them out here:



    I don’t think serious rationing will happen until it’s too late. It may seem too late now but it’s not. Phoenix having zero water is too late 

    Arizona is the perfect example. Republican led and the junior water rights partner on the Colorado. A democratic state will get blamed (Colorado or specifically California) for any lifestyle changes. Who knows if they will force the water they do get to be used sparingly 

    blame will get focused in the wrong places.  I’m convinced of that 
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  • jpgoegel
    jpgoegel Posts: 415
    oh wow, I havent thought of Derrick Jensen in a long time.   his culture of make believe book was some really interesting stuff
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    jpgoegel said:
    oh wow, I havent thought of Derrick Jensen in a long time.   his culture of make believe book was some really interesting stuff

    It is indeed.
    The latest post here are actually a bit off top but I didn't want to start yet another environmental thread.  I am tempted though.  The situation with SSCS (as in the link above) had a lot of folks in the world of ocean environmentalism really dismayed and unhappy (including myself).
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 2022
    brianlux said:
    jpgoegel said:
    oh wow, I havent thought of Derrick Jensen in a long time.   his culture of make believe book was some really interesting stuff

    It is indeed.
    The latest post here are actually a bit off top but I didn't want to start yet another environmental thread.  I am tempted though.  The situation with SSCS (as in the link above) had a lot of folks in the world of ocean environmentalism really dismayed and unhappy (including myself).
    As bad as it sounds that tv show was my only real Paul Watson exposure. Whale Wars I think it was 
    kind of lost track after the first few seasons 

    That guy is great. 
    He is sea shepherd and the article says the exact same thing 
    Post edited by Cropduster-80 on
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Cropduster-80 said:
    brianlux said:
    jpgoegel said:
    oh wow, I havent thought of Derrick Jensen in a long time.   his culture of make believe book was some really interesting stuff

    It is indeed.
    The latest post here are actually a bit off top but I didn't want to start yet another environmental thread.  I am tempted though.  The situation with SSCS (as in the link above) had a lot of folks in the world of ocean environmentalism really dismayed and unhappy (including myself).
    As bad as it sounds that tv show was my only real Paul Watson exposure. Whale Wars I think it was 
    kind of lost track after the first few seasons 

    That guy is great. He is sea shepherd 
    This!

    If you like that show, I think you would really appreciate this amazing documentary as well:
    Pirate for the Sea 2008 - IMDb



    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 2022
    brianlux said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    brianlux said:
    jpgoegel said:
    oh wow, I havent thought of Derrick Jensen in a long time.   his culture of make believe book was some really interesting stuff

    It is indeed.
    The latest post here are actually a bit off top but I didn't want to start yet another environmental thread.  I am tempted though.  The situation with SSCS (as in the link above) had a lot of folks in the world of ocean environmentalism really dismayed and unhappy (including myself).
    As bad as it sounds that tv show was my only real Paul Watson exposure. Whale Wars I think it was 
    kind of lost track after the first few seasons 

    That guy is great. He is sea shepherd 
    This!

    If you like that show, I think you would really appreciate this amazing documentary as well:
    Pirate for the Sea 2008 - IMDb



    Ha I had to edit my post. Down the article I saw it said what I said. 

    I’ll check it out 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Cropduster-80 said:
    brianlux said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    brianlux said:
    jpgoegel said:
    oh wow, I havent thought of Derrick Jensen in a long time.   his culture of make believe book was some really interesting stuff

    It is indeed.
    The latest post here are actually a bit off top but I didn't want to start yet another environmental thread.  I am tempted though.  The situation with SSCS (as in the link above) had a lot of folks in the world of ocean environmentalism really dismayed and unhappy (including myself).
    As bad as it sounds that tv show was my only real Paul Watson exposure. Whale Wars I think it was 
    kind of lost track after the first few seasons 

    That guy is great. He is sea shepherd 
    This!

    If you like that show, I think you would really appreciate this amazing documentary as well:
    Pirate for the Sea 2008 - IMDb



    Ha I had to edit my post. Down the article I saw it said what I said. 

    I’ll check it out 

    Great!  :plus_one:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,406
    edited August 2022
    brianlux said:
    jpgoegel said:
    oh wow, I havent thought of Derrick Jensen in a long time.   his culture of make believe book was some really interesting stuff

    It is indeed.
    The latest post here are actually a bit off top but I didn't want to start yet another environmental thread.  I am tempted though.  The situation with SSCS (as in the link above) had a lot of folks in the world of ocean environmentalism really dismayed and unhappy (including myself).
    Brian, sorry for derailing your thread.
    Post edited by stuckinline on
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    stuckinline said:
    brianlux said:
    jpgoegel said:
    oh wow, I havent thought of Derrick Jensen in a long time.   his culture of make believe book was some really interesting stuff

    It is indeed.
    The latest post here are actually a bit off top but I didn't want to start yet another environmental thread.  I am tempted though.  The situation with SSCS (as in the link above) had a lot of folks in the world of ocean environmentalism really dismayed and unhappy (including myself).
    Brian, sorry for derailing your thread.

    Oh gosh, not a problem at all!  I kind of derailed my own thread for no knowing where to put the article about Sea shepherd.  I probably should have just started another thread.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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