I just picked up _____ on vinyl!
Comments
-
There was one addition to the listing that was useful- the "pressed by" name which I didn't see- so I don't mind that. And yes, "tedious" is a good word for the process.Of The Aggie said:
I've found a lot of the Discogs community are dicks about the entries if they are not to their specifications. You do the best you can as the process is tedious and takes some getting used to only to have some ass correct everything you do.brianlux said:Yeah, I'm afraid I did get that email. The email plus some remarks on the edit page that led me to feel like a dunce.
They told me the proper name of the band is Dinosaur Jr (with no period, which is correct) but the form would only accept "Dinosaur Jr." (with the period).
This is a "once and done" for me. My main motivation was to get that LP into my collection data since that is what my insurance agent said was a good thing to do. Next time I'll wait for someone else to work up the listing. There are plenty of people who enjoy it and I found it tedious, plus I had a hard time with the label photos because my hands are no longer steady.
Exactly. Nine people added the LP in the first 8 hours, and several more the next day, but nobody else had taken the time to try to add it. I was a newbee, maybe a last-time-bee, lol.Cropduster-80 said:
To me that’s what makes it ridiculous. You add an entry, 20 plus people who could have created the entry add it to their collection immediately then nitpick the person who did add it.brianlux said:dankind said:
Do you still get an email from Discogs making you feel like a dick for even trying to help out1ThoughtKnown said:
Admirable first effort! I would advise to go back in and edit it to add:brianlux said:1ThoughtKnown said:
You are more than qualified to do add a listing on discogs. It isn’t that complicated. If you make a mistake or forget something the “experienced” discogers will update the listing.brianlux said:FR181798 said:
Nice it's on my list if I start buying records again, I'm 2 months in to my break. Been watching this online on the usual sites but waiting on a good price. Not that it's overly expensive but I think it might come down.brianlux said:Weird that I can't find this on Discogs (yet?) but it's out, I've got it, and it's great! Mid period Dinosaur Jr,: glorious, ear-bleeding bummer rock at it's best. Side one starts off a bit slow, murky and weird, then gets loud and nicely weird. Side two is total LOUD, weird, and glorious. I'm really glad this is an EP, otherwise I would be bothering the neighbors with my loud tinnitus.
Cherry Records/ MTV, BRED 848, 202245 RPM, 12"Ear Bleeding Country/ Bummer RockIf you're a Dino fan and decide to go for it, I don't think you will be disappointed!
I sure hope someone gets around to putting this on Discogs (I don't feel qualified to do that myself) so I can add this to my Discogs collection.Here's the link for anyone interested:Most important is the identify the label, barcode, the runouts and add some photos.The other stuff you mentioned on the post above. There are also instructions on discogs to guide you along.Here it is. Hope I didn't screw it up!
- deadwax info (runout)
- pictures of:
- back of the sleeve
- inner sleeve (if applicable)
- label on each side of the wax.If you don’t do this, someone else who owns it will undoubtedly do it.
when you fuck up?That’s why I stopped creating entries.Yeah, I'm afraid I did get that email. The email plus some remarks on the edit page that led me to feel like a dunce.
They told me the proper name of the band is Dinosaur Jr (with no period, which is correct) but the form would only accept "Dinosaur Jr." (with the period).
This is a "once and done" for me. My main motivation was to get that LP into my collection data since that is what my insurance agent said was a good thing to do. Next time I'll wait for someone else to work up the listing. There are plenty of people who enjoy it and I found it tedious, plus I had a hard time with the label photos because my hands are no longer steady.Where were they before?FR181798 said:That Dinosaur Jr EP shot up by £6-7 at a certain big retailer today just when I was about to buy. Hate that.That sucks! Maybe you can get it at a better price directly from Cherry Red Records here:If you're a fan, you'll very likely be glad to have this if you can get it. J's solos are wonky as hell (in a good way), Murph's playing is super solid, and as much as I love and prefer Lou on bass, Mike Johnson here adds some great tough bottom to the racket.I hope someone puts out the '94 MTV performances. That version of "Thumb" is killer!
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
brianlux said:
There was one addition to the listing that was useful- the "pressed by" name which I didn't see- so I don't mind that. And yes, "tedious" is a good word for the process.Of The Aggie said:
I've found a lot of the Discogs community are dicks about the entries if they are not to their specifications. You do the best you can as the process is tedious and takes some getting used to only to have some ass correct everything you do.brianlux said:Yeah, I'm afraid I did get that email. The email plus some remarks on the edit page that led me to feel like a dunce.
They told me the proper name of the band is Dinosaur Jr (with no period, which is correct) but the form would only accept "Dinosaur Jr." (with the period).
This is a "once and done" for me. My main motivation was to get that LP into my collection data since that is what my insurance agent said was a good thing to do. Next time I'll wait for someone else to work up the listing. There are plenty of people who enjoy it and I found it tedious, plus I had a hard time with the label photos because my hands are no longer steady.
Exactly. Nine people added the LP in the first 8 hours, and several more the next day, but nobody else had taken the time to try to add it. I was a newbee, maybe a last-time-bee, lol.Cropduster-80 said:
To me that’s what makes it ridiculous. You add an entry, 20 plus people who could have created the entry add it to their collection immediately then nitpick the person who did add it.brianlux said:dankind said:
Do you still get an email from Discogs making you feel like a dick for even trying to help out1ThoughtKnown said:
Admirable first effort! I would advise to go back in and edit it to add:brianlux said:1ThoughtKnown said:
You are more than qualified to do add a listing on discogs. It isn’t that complicated. If you make a mistake or forget something the “experienced” discogers will update the listing.brianlux said:FR181798 said:
Nice it's on my list if I start buying records again, I'm 2 months in to my break. Been watching this online on the usual sites but waiting on a good price. Not that it's overly expensive but I think it might come down.brianlux said:Weird that I can't find this on Discogs (yet?) but it's out, I've got it, and it's great! Mid period Dinosaur Jr,: glorious, ear-bleeding bummer rock at it's best. Side one starts off a bit slow, murky and weird, then gets loud and nicely weird. Side two is total LOUD, weird, and glorious. I'm really glad this is an EP, otherwise I would be bothering the neighbors with my loud tinnitus.Cherry Records/ MTV, BRED 848, 202245 RPM, 12"Ear Bleeding Country/ Bummer RockIf you're a Dino fan and decide to go for it, I don't think you will be disappointed!
I sure hope someone gets around to putting this on Discogs (I don't feel qualified to do that myself) so I can add this to my Discogs collection.Here's the link for anyone interested:Most important is the identify the label, barcode, the runouts and add some photos.The other stuff you mentioned on the post above. There are also instructions on discogs to guide you along.Here it is. Hope I didn't screw it up!
- deadwax info (runout)
- pictures of:
- back of the sleeve
- inner sleeve (if applicable)
- label on each side of the wax.If you don’t do this, someone else who owns it will undoubtedly do it.
when you fuck up?That’s why I stopped creating entries.Yeah, I'm afraid I did get that email. The email plus some remarks on the edit page that led me to feel like a dunce.
They told me the proper name of the band is Dinosaur Jr (with no period, which is correct) but the form would only accept "Dinosaur Jr." (with the period).
This is a "once and done" for me. My main motivation was to get that LP into my collection data since that is what my insurance agent said was a good thing to do. Next time I'll wait for someone else to work up the listing. There are plenty of people who enjoy it and I found it tedious, plus I had a hard time with the label photos because my hands are no longer steady.Where were they before?FR181798 said:That Dinosaur Jr EP shot up by £6-7 at a certain big retailer today just when I was about to buy. Hate that.That sucks! Maybe you can get it at a better price directly from Cherry Red Records here:If you're a fan, you'll very likely be glad to have this if you can get it. J's solos are wonky as hell (in a good way), Murph's playing is super solid, and as much as I love and prefer Lou on bass, Mike Johnson here adds some great tough bottom to the racket.I hope someone puts out the '94 MTV performances. That version of "Thumb" is killer!
I would be personally inclined to reply about the limitations/quirks of the system to add a title. Would further offer THEM a few choice suggestions as to what I think they could do..... but I AM an asshole that way.
_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
mickeyrat said:brianlux said:
There was one addition to the listing that was useful- the "pressed by" name which I didn't see- so I don't mind that. And yes, "tedious" is a good word for the process.Of The Aggie said:
I've found a lot of the Discogs community are dicks about the entries if they are not to their specifications. You do the best you can as the process is tedious and takes some getting used to only to have some ass correct everything you do.brianlux said:Yeah, I'm afraid I did get that email. The email plus some remarks on the edit page that led me to feel like a dunce.
They told me the proper name of the band is Dinosaur Jr (with no period, which is correct) but the form would only accept "Dinosaur Jr." (with the period).
This is a "once and done" for me. My main motivation was to get that LP into my collection data since that is what my insurance agent said was a good thing to do. Next time I'll wait for someone else to work up the listing. There are plenty of people who enjoy it and I found it tedious, plus I had a hard time with the label photos because my hands are no longer steady.
Exactly. Nine people added the LP in the first 8 hours, and several more the next day, but nobody else had taken the time to try to add it. I was a newbee, maybe a last-time-bee, lol.Cropduster-80 said:FR181798 said:That Dinosaur Jr EP shot up by £6-7 at a certain big retailer today just when I was about to buy. Hate that.That sucks! Maybe you can get it at a better price directly from Cherry Red Records here:If you're a fan, you'll very likely be glad to have this if you can get it. J's solos are wonky as hell (in a good way), Murph's playing is super solid, and as much as I love and prefer Lou on bass, Mike Johnson here adds some great tough bottom to the racket.I hope someone puts out the '94 MTV performances. That version of "Thumb" is killer!
I would be personally inclined to reply about the limitations/quirks of the system to add a title. Would further offer THEM a few choice suggestions as to what I think they could do..... but I AM an asshole that way.Haha! Go get 'em, M!I guess one must take the good with the bad when it comes to Discogs. The data base is the only one of it's kind and if you are careful (and add a dash of luck) there are good deals to be found there.
I'm more fan of Discogs than not, but I do avoid the forums there. That's where some of the really nasty people crawl out of the woodwork. God awful at times."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
That only happened once and it was the last listing I created. At least I thought it was discogs. They just said they added something and I just shrugged it off.dankind said:
Do you still get an email from Discogs making you feel like a dick for even trying to help out1ThoughtKnown said:
Admirable first effort! I would advise to go back in and edit it to add:brianlux said:1ThoughtKnown said:
You are more than qualified to do add a listing on discogs. It isn’t that complicated. If you make a mistake or forget something the “experienced” discogers will update the listing.brianlux said:FR181798 said:
Nice it's on my list if I start buying records again, I'm 2 months in to my break. Been watching this online on the usual sites but waiting on a good price. Not that it's overly expensive but I think it might come down.brianlux said:Weird that I can't find this on Discogs (yet?) but it's out, I've got it, and it's great! Mid period Dinosaur Jr,: glorious, ear-bleeding bummer rock at it's best. Side one starts off a bit slow, murky and weird, then gets loud and nicely weird. Side two is total LOUD, weird, and glorious. I'm really glad this is an EP, otherwise I would be bothering the neighbors with my loud tinnitus.Cherry Records/ MTV, BRED 848, 202245 RPM, 12"Ear Bleeding Country/ Bummer RockIf you're a Dino fan and decide to go for it, I don't think you will be disappointed!
I sure hope someone gets around to putting this on Discogs (I don't feel qualified to do that myself) so I can add this to my Discogs collection.Here's the link for anyone interested:Most important is the identify the label, barcode, the runouts and add some photos.The other stuff you mentioned on the post above. There are also instructions on discogs to guide you along.Here it is. Hope I didn't screw it up!
- deadwax info (runout)
- pictures of:
- back of the sleeve
- inner sleeve (if applicable)
- label on each side of the wax.If you don’t do this, someone else who owns it will undoubtedly do it.
when you fuck up?That’s why I stopped creating entries.I’m entering these on my friggin iPhone. If it needs some extra love so be it 😂0 -
Well at least you tried.brianlux said:dankind said:
Do you still get an email from Discogs making you feel like a dick for even trying to help out1ThoughtKnown said:
Admirable first effort! I would advise to go back in and edit it to add:brianlux said:1ThoughtKnown said:
You are more than qualified to do add a listing on discogs. It isn’t that complicated. If you make a mistake or forget something the “experienced” discogers will update the listing.brianlux said:FR181798 said:
Nice it's on my list if I start buying records again, I'm 2 months in to my break. Been watching this online on the usual sites but waiting on a good price. Not that it's overly expensive but I think it might come down.brianlux said:Weird that I can't find this on Discogs (yet?) but it's out, I've got it, and it's great! Mid period Dinosaur Jr,: glorious, ear-bleeding bummer rock at it's best. Side one starts off a bit slow, murky and weird, then gets loud and nicely weird. Side two is total LOUD, weird, and glorious. I'm really glad this is an EP, otherwise I would be bothering the neighbors with my loud tinnitus.Cherry Records/ MTV, BRED 848, 202245 RPM, 12"Ear Bleeding Country/ Bummer RockIf you're a Dino fan and decide to go for it, I don't think you will be disappointed!
I sure hope someone gets around to putting this on Discogs (I don't feel qualified to do that myself) so I can add this to my Discogs collection.Here's the link for anyone interested:Most important is the identify the label, barcode, the runouts and add some photos.The other stuff you mentioned on the post above. There are also instructions on discogs to guide you along.Here it is. Hope I didn't screw it up!
- deadwax info (runout)
- pictures of:
- back of the sleeve
- inner sleeve (if applicable)
- label on each side of the wax.If you don’t do this, someone else who owns it will undoubtedly do it.
when you fuck up?That’s why I stopped creating entries.Yeah, I'm afraid I did get that email. The email plus some remarks on the edit page that led me to feel like a dunce.
They told me the proper name of the band is Dinosaur Jr (with no period, which is correct) but the form would only accept "Dinosaur Jr." (with the period).
This is a "once and done" for me. My main motivation was to get that LP into my collection data since that is what my insurance agent said was a good thing to do. Next time I'll wait for someone else to work up the listing. There are plenty of people who enjoy it and I found it tedious, plus I had a hard time with the label photos because my hands are no longer steady.Full disclosure, I wanted that listing created because I needed it on my wantlist 😂. Didn’t want to forget.Discogs rules is you can’t create a listing unless you are in physical possession of the releasePost edited by 1ThoughtKnown on0 -
1ThoughtKnown said:
Well at least you tried.brianlux said:dankind said:
Do you still get an email from Discogs making you feel like a dick for even trying to help out1ThoughtKnown said:
Admirable first effort! I would advise to go back in and edit it to add:brianlux said:1ThoughtKnown said:
You are more than qualified to do add a listing on discogs. It isn’t that complicated. If you make a mistake or forget something the “experienced” discogers will update the listing.brianlux said:FR181798 said:
Nice it's on my list if I start buying records again, I'm 2 months in to my break. Been watching this online on the usual sites but waiting on a good price. Not that it's overly expensive but I think it might come down.brianlux said:Weird that I can't find this on Discogs (yet?) but it's out, I've got it, and it's great! Mid period Dinosaur Jr,: glorious, ear-bleeding bummer rock at it's best. Side one starts off a bit slow, murky and weird, then gets loud and nicely weird. Side two is total LOUD, weird, and glorious. I'm really glad this is an EP, otherwise I would be bothering the neighbors with my loud tinnitus.Cherry Records/ MTV, BRED 848, 202245 RPM, 12"Ear Bleeding Country/ Bummer RockIf you're a Dino fan and decide to go for it, I don't think you will be disappointed!
I sure hope someone gets around to putting this on Discogs (I don't feel qualified to do that myself) so I can add this to my Discogs collection.Here's the link for anyone interested:Most important is the identify the label, barcode, the runouts and add some photos.The other stuff you mentioned on the post above. There are also instructions on discogs to guide you along.Here it is. Hope I didn't screw it up!
- deadwax info (runout)
- pictures of:
- back of the sleeve
- inner sleeve (if applicable)
- label on each side of the wax.If you don’t do this, someone else who owns it will undoubtedly do it.
when you fuck up?That’s why I stopped creating entries.Yeah, I'm afraid I did get that email. The email plus some remarks on the edit page that led me to feel like a dunce.
They told me the proper name of the band is Dinosaur Jr (with no period, which is correct) but the form would only accept "Dinosaur Jr." (with the period).
This is a "once and done" for me. My main motivation was to get that LP into my collection data since that is what my insurance agent said was a good thing to do. Next time I'll wait for someone else to work up the listing. There are plenty of people who enjoy it and I found it tedious, plus I had a hard time with the label photos because my hands are no longer steady.Full disclosure, I wanted that listing created because I needed it on my wantlist 😂. Didn’t want to forget.Discogs rules is you can’t create a listing unless you are in physical possession of the release
I am thrilled to know my listing job did something helpful. Nice! And a good choice for your want list!
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I still don't get discogs. I've tried a few times and it is just a mess to me...0
-
You don't get how to make or adjust an entry, or you don't get how to look up your albums and put them in your collection?tempo_n_groove said:I still don't get discogs. I've tried a few times and it is just a mess to me...
Discogs is invaluable to a record collector.0 -
Speaking of discogs, should I finally buy the A Nightmare on Elm Street: The Dream Child soundtrack completing my collection?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
-
I use it however I don’t like that it’s still not standardised even with all the rules.mrussel1 said:
You don't get how to make or adjust an entry, or you don't get how to look up your albums and put them in your collection?tempo_n_groove said:I still don't get discogs. I've tried a few times and it is just a mess to me...
Discogs is invaluable to a record collector.
trying to find out where something was pressed for example. Sometimes it’s obvious sometimes it’s not
where it’s pressed, vs nothing, vs country of pressing
Post edited by Cropduster-80 on0 -
_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
Now that wasn’t so hard was it?
0 -
I assume they are taking this route so they can print unlimited copies, rather than being limited by access to the master tapes.Cropduster-80 said:Now that wasn’t so hard was it?
BTW - I haven't watched it yet, but there's a new AP interview with Chad where he said Kay Lied is no longer going to be released. Some problem with the ownership of the tapes. That really f*ing blows.0 -
I missed that one. That sucks.mrussel1 said:
I assume they are taking this route so they can print unlimited copies, rather than being limited by access to the master tapes.Cropduster-80 said:Now that wasn’t so hard was it?
BTW - I haven't watched it yet, but there's a new AP interview with Chad where he said Kay Lied is no longer going to be released. Some problem with the ownership of the tapes. That really f*ing blows.
the mainline mofi’s are still numbered without an edition number so I’m guessing yes. Print as many as you want and it doesn’t raise any questions since it’s what they have always doneI assume the one steps will still be a finite edition based on demand only because boxes are a pain to do. Not that I particularly like how they package them, because I don’t. Much rather have a proper gatefold in the box like AP
I don’t like how they use the word analog twice and abbreviate the digital partPost edited by Cropduster-80 on0 -
I tried looking up a record one day and they had literally 50 different listings of the same record. I was trying to find a specific listing but had to sift through all of them.mrussel1 said:
You don't get how to make or adjust an entry, or you don't get how to look up your albums and put them in your collection?tempo_n_groove said:I still don't get discogs. I've tried a few times and it is just a mess to me...
Discogs is invaluable to a record collector.
It's not the first time I had this happen to me either. I want to use it as a research tool rather than for my collection but I guess if I used it to catalog my albums it would serve better.0 -
type in the runout info.tempo_n_groove said:
I tried looking up a record one day and they had literally 50 different listings of the same record. I was trying to find a specific listing but had to sift through all of them.mrussel1 said:
You don't get how to make or adjust an entry, or you don't get how to look up your albums and put them in your collection?tempo_n_groove said:I still don't get discogs. I've tried a few times and it is just a mess to me...
Discogs is invaluable to a record collector.
It's not the first time I had this happen to me either. I want to use it as a research tool rather than for my collection but I guess if I used it to catalog my albums it would serve better.
as much as possible. will narrow down your choices. then look for any special markings to zero in....
_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
Drives me a little nuts. I have some of my stuff on it, but may be wrong because it's hard to take the time to figure what version I have. Still have piles to add. Will be a fun winter project.0
-
Well yes, this is the detail that Discogs carries, particularly when going back to the 70's records. You have plants all over America and the world pressing year after year. So it can be frustrating to find the right version, if you are committed to finding the right version. Stones, Beatles, and the mega groups in particular have this. But that's precisely the reason Discogs exists, to know exactly the version you have, from the plant, in the year.tempo_n_groove said:
I tried looking up a record one day and they had literally 50 different listings of the same record. I was trying to find a specific listing but had to sift through all of them.mrussel1 said:
You don't get how to make or adjust an entry, or you don't get how to look up your albums and put them in your collection?tempo_n_groove said:I still don't get discogs. I've tried a few times and it is just a mess to me...
Discogs is invaluable to a record collector.
It's not the first time I had this happen to me either. I want to use it as a research tool rather than for my collection but I guess if I used it to catalog my albums it would serve better.
Mick is right though. The easiest way to search is to read the runout info (you'll need a flashlight and some readers) and just type that into the search function. That gives you the best chance to find your specific version.0 -
I still think pressing plant needs to be a field that is required and it shows in the format section or a separate field between format and countrymrussel1 said:
Well yes, this is the detail that Discogs carries, particularly when going back to the 70's records. You have plants all over America and the world pressing year after year. So it can be frustrating to find the right version, if you are committed to finding the right version. Stones, Beatles, and the mega groups in particular have this. But that's precisely the reason Discogs exists, to know exactly the version you have, from the plant, in the year.tempo_n_groove said:
I tried looking up a record one day and they had literally 50 different listings of the same record. I was trying to find a specific listing but had to sift through all of them.mrussel1 said:
You don't get how to make or adjust an entry, or you don't get how to look up your albums and put them in your collection?tempo_n_groove said:I still don't get discogs. I've tried a few times and it is just a mess to me...
Discogs is invaluable to a record collector.
It's not the first time I had this happen to me either. I want to use it as a research tool rather than for my collection but I guess if I used it to catalog my albums it would serve better.
Mick is right though. The easiest way to search is to read the runout info (you'll need a flashlight and some readers) and just type that into the search function. That gives you the best chance to find your specific version.
You can find it, it’s not standardised0 -
I didn't have that info at the time so it was frustrating.mickeyrat said:
type in the runout info.tempo_n_groove said:
I tried looking up a record one day and they had literally 50 different listings of the same record. I was trying to find a specific listing but had to sift through all of them.mrussel1 said:
You don't get how to make or adjust an entry, or you don't get how to look up your albums and put them in your collection?tempo_n_groove said:I still don't get discogs. I've tried a few times and it is just a mess to me...
Discogs is invaluable to a record collector.
It's not the first time I had this happen to me either. I want to use it as a research tool rather than for my collection but I guess if I used it to catalog my albums it would serve better.
as much as possible. will narrow down your choices. then look for any special markings to zero in....
If you wanted to figure out the first pressing of Frankenchrist w the poster not knowing the runout info could you even decipher that?
I'm going to try that now on a whim.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGDtxuvfWKA
Categories
- All Categories
- 148.8K Pearl Jam's Music and Activism
- 110K The Porch
- 274 Vitalogy
- 35K Given To Fly (live)
- 3.5K Words and Music...Communication
- 39.1K Flea Market
- 39.1K Lost Dogs
- 58.7K Not Pearl Jam's Music
- 10.6K Musicians and Gearheads
- 29.1K Other Music
- 17.8K Poetry, Prose, Music & Art
- 1.1K The Art Wall
- 56.7K Non-Pearl Jam Discussion
- 22.2K A Moving Train
- 31.7K All Encompassing Trip
- 2.9K Technical Stuff and Help