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Guess this post could go either here or in the Dem thread. Either way--the abortion issue is a gift the republicans handed dems and will likely be the reason they hold onto the senate.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/pennsylvania-women-voter-registration-dobbs-20220822.html?utm_source=email&utm_term=%%=redirectto(@item_url)=%%&utm_content=232123&utm_id=7042fbdd-e59a-46d2-a216-218122d03c9d&sfmc_id=228154786&sfmc_activityid=0c72040d-7ef5-4b5d-969e-a51557eae229&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=e-edition&sfmc_id=0031U00001WQquDQAT&sub_source=E_Edition&list_name=All Subscribers&int_promo=email&et_rid=228154786Women are registering to vote in Pa. in numbers far exceeding men since the Supreme Court abortion decision
Of the women who have registered since the decision, there are four Democrats for every Republican
- by Julia Terruso and Jonathan LaiUpdated Aug 22, 2022
The voter registration envelope had been sitting in Kiera Coyle’s bedroom for months when her cell phone started blowing up that Friday in June.
Had she seen the news about the Supreme Court?
Coyle, an 18-year-old from Willow Grove, had been interested in voting but just hadn’t gotten around to it, busy preparing to leave for college, babysitting for a local family, and making trips to the Jersey Shore.
After hearing abortion could become illegal in some states, she dug the form out, registered as a Democrat, and sent it in.
ADVERTISEMENT“Not just me, but all my friends, we immediately registered to vote,” Coyle said. “If we have the voice to vote, we wanted it. … We were really enraged. We were like, ‘How are we going backward?’ ”
Thousands of women across Pennsylvania and the country have registered to vote since the June 24 Dobbs v. Jackson decision that overturned the federal right to an abortion in the United States.
Pennsylvania has had one of the nation’s biggest gender gaps in new registrations, according to Democratic voter data firm Target Smart, which said women have outpaced men by about 12 percentage points in new registrations since June 24. That gap is three times larger than their estimate of a 4-point difference in total registrations. (Gender is an optional field when registering to vote in Pennsylvania, so the state’s voter rolls don’t provide a complete picture of the gender split in registrations.)
Newly registered voters say they were motivated by the decision, and Democratic activists said they’re working to capitalize on that anger with voter registration drives and more women-focused organizing events. Similar voter enthusiasm and political organizing has followed other major events, including the racial justice protests in 2020 and the 2018 mass shooting at Parkland High School in Florida.
ADVERTISEMENTIn Pennsylvania, 62% of women registering since Dobbs registered as Democrats, 15% as Republicans; 54% were younger than 25.
Dana Brown, executive director at the Center for Women in Politics, said there’s been a clear shift in motivation among Democrats since the ruling, and women are a main driver.
“Many people have been mobilizing since the decision to register voters, particularly in the younger demographic, because that’s where you have the opportunity for growth,” Brown said.
Registration and enthusiasm
The surge in female voter registrations comes amid a flurry of registration activity as voters prepare for a major midterm election.
Voter registration patterns generally match broader voter enthusiasm in elections, with registrations spiking in major elections and staying very low in low-turnout election cycles. This year, state data show more than 63,200 new registrations have been processed online, the primary registration method, as of mid-August. By this time in 2020, there had been nearly 250,000 new online registrations — and last year, only 25,000.
As registrations continue to pick up heading into the November midterms, the tens of thousands of new voters will make up a small percentage of the state’s nearly 8.8 million registered voters. And registration numbers alone can be misleading, with Democrats in Pennsylvania historically holding a significant margin over Republicans in voter registrations — but when it comes time to vote, the state is much more evenly split.
But an increase in new registrations can signal broader enthusiasm for voting among the already registered electorate.
Of course, registering to vote is one thing, actually going out to do it is another, Brown noted. But as the recent data show, registrations grew at particularly high rates in some states where abortion rights are most at risk. That could signal people are being motivated by an issue they want to weigh in on through voting.
In Pennsylvania, abortion is legal but several bills that would severely restrict it have passed the state legislature only to be vetoed by Gov. Tom Wolf, whose term ends in January.
ADVERTISEMENTThe Democratic candidate for governor, Josh Shapiro, has vowed to continue to veto abortion bans. His Republican opponent, State. Sen. Doug Mastriano, has said he believes all abortions should be illegal, with no exceptions. Who becomes governor in November could very well determine whether abortion is legal in Pennsylvania.
And the state legislature, long controlled by Republicans, could also be up for grabs.
“A lot of people, they heard abortion was punted to the state and then people run and go look at their state and they’re like, ‘Oh ... I’m in one of the bad ones,’ ” said Jamie Perrapato, executive director of the Democratic group Turn PA Blue.
Pennsylvania’s U.S. Senate race could also be key. The winner could determine which party controls the chamber and whether abortion is codified — or restricted — at the federal level.
Turn PA Blue has seen an influx in women interested in registering to vote and they’ve upped their registration efforts and voter outreach. They also hold Women to Women Wednesdays in which volunteers have phone and online conversations with women around the state.
“This is motivating women. This is finally the straw where people don’t want to believe horrible things are happening, but you can’t deny it anymore,” Perrapato said. “We can lose abortion as of the ballot in November.”
‘Time to get involved’
For Elya Shaffer, part of the motivation to register in Pennsylvania was having a son.
“That just made it so much more real, on kind of like an emotional level, not just a theoretical or political level,” said Shaffer, who moved to Conshohocken from Naples, Fla., last year.
Shaffer, who is 35 and describes herself as more moderate, tends to vote based on issues and for her, abortion is an important one.
“I’m married, very much in a position to start a family. It was a choice. But it was a really rough pregnancy and just going through all the physical, emotional stuff you go through, not just during the pregnancy but postpartum, it’s so incredibly difficult, and forcing people to do that who aren’t ready or don’t choose to be, it was really all of that.”
Part of Shaffer’s delay in registering in her new state was being a busy new mom, but it was also just bad information: Shaffer didn’t realize that she could register to vote without a Pennsylvania driver’s license.
After the Supreme Court decision, not being registered in the state really started bothering her, and she went online and looked more closely at what was required to register.
“After the ruling, I thought about it constantly, to be honest,” she said. “It kept me up at night.”
Kristy Messina, in gray, poses with her daughters, from left to right, Ashley Elborne, Emily Messina, and Lily Messina, along with her husband, Michael Messina. Kristy Messina registered to vote for the first time following the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade. She said her daughters were a main reason.Read moreHandout / Courtesy of the Messina familyKristy Messina, a 43-year-old mother of three teenage girls, said her daughters inspired her to register for the first time.
Messina, who lives in Pittsburgh, registered this month.
“I am worried about my children, and worried that I may not always be able to help them as they navigate life,” she said.
“I’m angry that people think that they can still control us and want my children to get angry about it as well and fight for their rights.”
Messina said she avoided politics her entire life.
“Now I need to worry about their future,” she said. “It’s time to get involved.”
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The Juggler said:Guess this post could go either here or in the Dem thread. Either way--the abortion issue is a gift the republicans handed dems and will likely be the reason they hold onto the senate.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/pennsylvania-women-voter-registration-dobbs-20220822.html?utm_source=email&utm_term=%%=redirectto(@item_url)=%%&utm_content=232123&utm_id=7042fbdd-e59a-46d2-a216-218122d03c9d&sfmc_id=228154786&sfmc_activityid=0c72040d-7ef5-4b5d-969e-a51557eae229&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=e-edition&sfmc_id=0031U00001WQquDQAT&sub_source=E_Edition&list_name=All Subscribers&int_promo=email&et_rid=228154786Women are registering to vote in Pa. in numbers far exceeding men since the Supreme Court abortion decision
Of the women who have registered since the decision, there are four Democrats for every Republican
The voter registration envelope had been sitting in Kiera Coyle’s bedroom for months when her cell phone started blowing up that Friday in June.
Had she seen the news about the Supreme Court?
Coyle, an 18-year-old from Willow Grove, had been interested in voting but just hadn’t gotten around to it, busy preparing to leave for college, babysitting for a local family, and making trips to the Jersey Shore.
After hearing abortion could become illegal in some states, she dug the form out, registered as a Democrat, and sent it in.
ADVERTISEMENT“Not just me, but all my friends, we immediately registered to vote,” Coyle said. “If we have the voice to vote, we wanted it. … We were really enraged. We were like, ‘How are we going backward?’ ”
Thousands of women across Pennsylvania and the country have registered to vote since the June 24 Dobbs v. Jackson decision that overturned the federal right to an abortion in the United States.
Pennsylvania has had one of the nation’s biggest gender gaps in new registrations, according to Democratic voter data firm Target Smart, which said women have outpaced men by about 12 percentage points in new registrations since June 24. That gap is three times larger than their estimate of a 4-point difference in total registrations. (Gender is an optional field when registering to vote in Pennsylvania, so the state’s voter rolls don’t provide a complete picture of the gender split in registrations.)
Newly registered voters say they were motivated by the decision, and Democratic activists said they’re working to capitalize on that anger with voter registration drives and more women-focused organizing events. Similar voter enthusiasm and political organizing has followed other major events, including the racial justice protests in 2020 and the 2018 mass shooting at Parkland High School in Florida.
ADVERTISEMENTIn Pennsylvania, 62% of women registering since Dobbs registered as Democrats, 15% as Republicans; 54% were younger than 25.
Dana Brown, executive director at the Center for Women in Politics, said there’s been a clear shift in motivation among Democrats since the ruling, and women are a main driver.
“Many people have been mobilizing since the decision to register voters, particularly in the younger demographic, because that’s where you have the opportunity for growth,” Brown said.
Registration and enthusiasm
The surge in female voter registrations comes amid a flurry of registration activity as voters prepare for a major midterm election.
Voter registration patterns generally match broader voter enthusiasm in elections, with registrations spiking in major elections and staying very low in low-turnout election cycles. This year, state data show more than 63,200 new registrations have been processed online, the primary registration method, as of mid-August. By this time in 2020, there had been nearly 250,000 new online registrations — and last year, only 25,000.
As registrations continue to pick up heading into the November midterms, the tens of thousands of new voters will make up a small percentage of the state’s nearly 8.8 million registered voters. And registration numbers alone can be misleading, with Democrats in Pennsylvania historically holding a significant margin over Republicans in voter registrations — but when it comes time to vote, the state is much more evenly split.
But an increase in new registrations can signal broader enthusiasm for voting among the already registered electorate.
Of course, registering to vote is one thing, actually going out to do it is another, Brown noted. But as the recent data show, registrations grew at particularly high rates in some states where abortion rights are most at risk. That could signal people are being motivated by an issue they want to weigh in on through voting.
In Pennsylvania, abortion is legal but several bills that would severely restrict it have passed the state legislature only to be vetoed by Gov. Tom Wolf, whose term ends in January.
ADVERTISEMENTThe Democratic candidate for governor, Josh Shapiro, has vowed to continue to veto abortion bans. His Republican opponent, State. Sen. Doug Mastriano, has said he believes all abortions should be illegal, with no exceptions. Who becomes governor in November could very well determine whether abortion is legal in Pennsylvania.
And the state legislature, long controlled by Republicans, could also be up for grabs.
“A lot of people, they heard abortion was punted to the state and then people run and go look at their state and they’re like, ‘Oh ... I’m in one of the bad ones,’ ” said Jamie Perrapato, executive director of the Democratic group Turn PA Blue.
Pennsylvania’s U.S. Senate race could also be key. The winner could determine which party controls the chamber and whether abortion is codified — or restricted — at the federal level.
Turn PA Blue has seen an influx in women interested in registering to vote and they’ve upped their registration efforts and voter outreach. They also hold Women to Women Wednesdays in which volunteers have phone and online conversations with women around the state.
“This is motivating women. This is finally the straw where people don’t want to believe horrible things are happening, but you can’t deny it anymore,” Perrapato said. “We can lose abortion as of the ballot in November.”
‘Time to get involved’
For Elya Shaffer, part of the motivation to register in Pennsylvania was having a son.
“That just made it so much more real, on kind of like an emotional level, not just a theoretical or political level,” said Shaffer, who moved to Conshohocken from Naples, Fla., last year.
Shaffer, who is 35 and describes herself as more moderate, tends to vote based on issues and for her, abortion is an important one.
“I’m married, very much in a position to start a family. It was a choice. But it was a really rough pregnancy and just going through all the physical, emotional stuff you go through, not just during the pregnancy but postpartum, it’s so incredibly difficult, and forcing people to do that who aren’t ready or don’t choose to be, it was really all of that.”
Part of Shaffer’s delay in registering in her new state was being a busy new mom, but it was also just bad information: Shaffer didn’t realize that she could register to vote without a Pennsylvania driver’s license.
After the Supreme Court decision, not being registered in the state really started bothering her, and she went online and looked more closely at what was required to register.
“After the ruling, I thought about it constantly, to be honest,” she said. “It kept me up at night.”
Kristy Messina, in gray, poses with her daughters, from left to right, Ashley Elborne, Emily Messina, and Lily Messina, along with her husband, Michael Messina. Kristy Messina registered to vote for the first time following the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade. She said her daughters were a main reason.Read moreHandout / Courtesy of the Messina familyKristy Messina, a 43-year-old mother of three teenage girls, said her daughters inspired her to register for the first time.
Messina, who lives in Pittsburgh, registered this month.
“I am worried about my children, and worried that I may not always be able to help them as they navigate life,” she said.
“I’m angry that people think that they can still control us and want my children to get angry about it as well and fight for their rights.”
Messina said she avoided politics her entire life.
“Now I need to worry about their future,” she said. “It’s time to get involved.”
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The Juggler said:Guess this post could go either here or in the Dem thread. Either way--the abortion issue is a gift the republicans handed dems and will likely be the reason they hold onto the senate.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/pennsylvania-women-voter-registration-dobbs-20220822.html?utm_source=email&utm_term=%%=redirectto(@item_url)=%%&utm_content=232123&utm_id=7042fbdd-e59a-46d2-a216-218122d03c9d&sfmc_id=228154786&sfmc_activityid=0c72040d-7ef5-4b5d-969e-a51557eae229&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=e-edition&sfmc_id=0031U00001WQquDQAT&sub_source=E_Edition&list_name=All Subscribers&int_promo=email&et_rid=228154786Women are registering to vote in Pa. in numbers far exceeding men since the Supreme Court abortion decision
Of the women who have registered since the decision, there are four Democrats for every Republican
The voter registration envelope had been sitting in Kiera Coyle’s bedroom for months when her cell phone started blowing up that Friday in June.
Had she seen the news about the Supreme Court?
Coyle, an 18-year-old from Willow Grove, had been interested in voting but just hadn’t gotten around to it, busy preparing to leave for college, babysitting for a local family, and making trips to the Jersey Shore.
After hearing abortion could become illegal in some states, she dug the form out, registered as a Democrat, and sent it in.
ADVERTISEMENT“Not just me, but all my friends, we immediately registered to vote,” Coyle said. “If we have the voice to vote, we wanted it. … We were really enraged. We were like, ‘How are we going backward?’ ”
Thousands of women across Pennsylvania and the country have registered to vote since the June 24 Dobbs v. Jackson decision that overturned the federal right to an abortion in the United States.
Pennsylvania has had one of the nation’s biggest gender gaps in new registrations, according to Democratic voter data firm Target Smart, which said women have outpaced men by about 12 percentage points in new registrations since June 24. That gap is three times larger than their estimate of a 4-point difference in total registrations. (Gender is an optional field when registering to vote in Pennsylvania, so the state’s voter rolls don’t provide a complete picture of the gender split in registrations.)
Newly registered voters say they were motivated by the decision, and Democratic activists said they’re working to capitalize on that anger with voter registration drives and more women-focused organizing events. Similar voter enthusiasm and political organizing has followed other major events, including the racial justice protests in 2020 and the 2018 mass shooting at Parkland High School in Florida.
ADVERTISEMENTIn Pennsylvania, 62% of women registering since Dobbs registered as Democrats, 15% as Republicans; 54% were younger than 25.
Dana Brown, executive director at the Center for Women in Politics, said there’s been a clear shift in motivation among Democrats since the ruling, and women are a main driver.
“Many people have been mobilizing since the decision to register voters, particularly in the younger demographic, because that’s where you have the opportunity for growth,” Brown said.
Registration and enthusiasm
The surge in female voter registrations comes amid a flurry of registration activity as voters prepare for a major midterm election.
Voter registration patterns generally match broader voter enthusiasm in elections, with registrations spiking in major elections and staying very low in low-turnout election cycles. This year, state data show more than 63,200 new registrations have been processed online, the primary registration method, as of mid-August. By this time in 2020, there had been nearly 250,000 new online registrations — and last year, only 25,000.
As registrations continue to pick up heading into the November midterms, the tens of thousands of new voters will make up a small percentage of the state’s nearly 8.8 million registered voters. And registration numbers alone can be misleading, with Democrats in Pennsylvania historically holding a significant margin over Republicans in voter registrations — but when it comes time to vote, the state is much more evenly split.
But an increase in new registrations can signal broader enthusiasm for voting among the already registered electorate.
Of course, registering to vote is one thing, actually going out to do it is another, Brown noted. But as the recent data show, registrations grew at particularly high rates in some states where abortion rights are most at risk. That could signal people are being motivated by an issue they want to weigh in on through voting.
In Pennsylvania, abortion is legal but several bills that would severely restrict it have passed the state legislature only to be vetoed by Gov. Tom Wolf, whose term ends in January.
ADVERTISEMENTThe Democratic candidate for governor, Josh Shapiro, has vowed to continue to veto abortion bans. His Republican opponent, State. Sen. Doug Mastriano, has said he believes all abortions should be illegal, with no exceptions. Who becomes governor in November could very well determine whether abortion is legal in Pennsylvania.
And the state legislature, long controlled by Republicans, could also be up for grabs.
“A lot of people, they heard abortion was punted to the state and then people run and go look at their state and they’re like, ‘Oh ... I’m in one of the bad ones,’ ” said Jamie Perrapato, executive director of the Democratic group Turn PA Blue.
Pennsylvania’s U.S. Senate race could also be key. The winner could determine which party controls the chamber and whether abortion is codified — or restricted — at the federal level.
Turn PA Blue has seen an influx in women interested in registering to vote and they’ve upped their registration efforts and voter outreach. They also hold Women to Women Wednesdays in which volunteers have phone and online conversations with women around the state.
“This is motivating women. This is finally the straw where people don’t want to believe horrible things are happening, but you can’t deny it anymore,” Perrapato said. “We can lose abortion as of the ballot in November.”
‘Time to get involved’
For Elya Shaffer, part of the motivation to register in Pennsylvania was having a son.
“That just made it so much more real, on kind of like an emotional level, not just a theoretical or political level,” said Shaffer, who moved to Conshohocken from Naples, Fla., last year.
Shaffer, who is 35 and describes herself as more moderate, tends to vote based on issues and for her, abortion is an important one.
“I’m married, very much in a position to start a family. It was a choice. But it was a really rough pregnancy and just going through all the physical, emotional stuff you go through, not just during the pregnancy but postpartum, it’s so incredibly difficult, and forcing people to do that who aren’t ready or don’t choose to be, it was really all of that.”
Part of Shaffer’s delay in registering in her new state was being a busy new mom, but it was also just bad information: Shaffer didn’t realize that she could register to vote without a Pennsylvania driver’s license.
After the Supreme Court decision, not being registered in the state really started bothering her, and she went online and looked more closely at what was required to register.
“After the ruling, I thought about it constantly, to be honest,” she said. “It kept me up at night.”
Kristy Messina, in gray, poses with her daughters, from left to right, Ashley Elborne, Emily Messina, and Lily Messina, along with her husband, Michael Messina. Kristy Messina registered to vote for the first time following the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade. She said her daughters were a main reason.Read moreHandout / Courtesy of the Messina familyKristy Messina, a 43-year-old mother of three teenage girls, said her daughters inspired her to register for the first time.
Messina, who lives in Pittsburgh, registered this month.
“I am worried about my children, and worried that I may not always be able to help them as they navigate life,” she said.
“I’m angry that people think that they can still control us and want my children to get angry about it as well and fight for their rights.”
Messina said she avoided politics her entire life.
“Now I need to worry about their future,” she said. “It’s time to get involved.”
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Halifax2TheMax said:67K+ Floridians voted for Matt Getts Off in his repub primary. There is no hope.
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mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:67K+ Floridians voted for Matt Getts Off in his repub primary. There is no hope.Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:67K+ Floridians voted for Matt Getts Off in his repub primary. There is no hope.0
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mrussel1 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:67K+ Floridians voted for Matt Getts Off in his repub primary. There is no hope.
Has Youngkin publicly acknowledged that Brandon is the legitimately elected POTUS and that POOTWH lost fair and square?Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:mrussel1 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:67K+ Floridians voted for Matt Getts Off in his repub primary. There is no hope.
Has Youngkin publicly acknowledged that Brandon is the legitimately elected POTUS and that POOTWH lost fair and square?
As far as Youngkin, he played both sides like the weasel he is. During the primary, he wouldn't really say. His opponent Amanda Chase did... all day every day. One the election moved to general he said, "“Glenn Youngkin has repeatedly said that Joe Biden was legitimately elected and that there was no significant fraud in Virginia’s 2020 election, leading to the only logical conclusion that he would have certified the election,” the statement said.
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mrussel1 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mrussel1 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:67K+ Floridians voted for Matt Getts Off in his repub primary. There is no hope.
Has Youngkin publicly acknowledged that Brandon is the legitimately elected POTUS and that POOTWH lost fair and square?
As far as Youngkin, he played both sides like the weasel he is. During the primary, he wouldn't really say. His opponent Amanda Chase did... all day every day. One the election moved to general he said, "“Glenn Youngkin has repeatedly said that Joe Biden was legitimately elected and that there was no significant fraud in Virginia’s 2020 election, leading to the only logical conclusion that he would have certified the election,” the statement said.I’m working on leaving this country and I suggest that you keep your passport valid and handy.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:mrussel1 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mrussel1 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:67K+ Floridians voted for Matt Getts Off in his repub primary. There is no hope.
Has Youngkin publicly acknowledged that Brandon is the legitimately elected POTUS and that POOTWH lost fair and square?
As far as Youngkin, he played both sides like the weasel he is. During the primary, he wouldn't really say. His opponent Amanda Chase did... all day every day. One the election moved to general he said, "“Glenn Youngkin has repeatedly said that Joe Biden was legitimately elected and that there was no significant fraud in Virginia’s 2020 election, leading to the only logical conclusion that he would have certified the election,” the statement said.I’m working on leaving this country and I suggest that you keep your passport valid and handy.0 -
At least some of those really, really, weird fringe republicans lost last night. Was nice to see that wacko Loomer crying during her "I'm not conceding conceding speech last night."www.myspace.com0
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Mitch doesn't fear trump. He doesn't engage trump because he doesn't want to give trump the air time and the ability to drag him into a shit slinging fight, of which trump always wins.
trump was a useful idiot to mitch for a few years. now mitch is moving on. mitch is evil, but he's much, much smarter than trump is. he knows the best way to get rid of him is to not engage.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
The base is starting to turn on Mitch, probably because they see him trying to distance himself from Trump. Nobody ever did more for the base than Mitch...he's more responsible than anyone for the GQP being in position to be the only party. But you cannot waver from your fealty to Trump even a little, as Liz obviously learned and Dan Crenshaw is learning. Mitch? Well, he's old enough that I don't know if he'll run again, but at this point, he could be on the road to being primaried.
Trump was a useful idiot. The problem for some people is that he was almost too useful and now the base is totally devoted and the loyalty to him is pretty much the only thing that matters. I bounce between being floored at how pitifully devoted people like JD Vance, Lindsey, etc. are and understanding that the devotion is key to being able to win primaries.
Reagan was immensely popular. But I don't think the party and the voters were conducing ongoing support/purity testing like they are now. He was beloved, more so than Trump, but it wasn't a cult.
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Have any currently elected repubs publicly condemned POOTWH for taking highly classified documents to Mar-I-Lieo and for refusing to give them up? Their silence speaks volumes.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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From the NYT email blast. If you don't believe that what is going on in the repub party is a threat to our democracy or that its a passing fad and won't last, you're sadly mistaken.
August 24, 2022
Good morning. We break down elected Republicans into three groups, based on their stances toward false claims about the 2020 election.
Trump supporters at a rally in Mendon, Ill., in June.Rachel Mummey for The New York Times The DeSantis two-step
Dozens of Republican officials continue to tell lies about the 2020 election, claiming that Donald Trump lost only because of fraud. These claims are especially worrisome for the future of American democracy because they suggest that those same officials might be willing to overturn a future election result and hand power to the rightful loser.
On the other hand, dozens of other Republicans have never claimed that Trump lost because of fraud. This list includes most Republican senators (like Mitch McConnell, the party’s Senate leader), several governors (like Mike DeWine of Ohio) and other state-level officials.
In the latter group of Republicans, however, a split is emerging. Some have decided that lies about the 2020 election are a red line they will not cross, and they have refused to endorse other Republicans making the claims. Others are actively campaigning for election deniers — and, in the process, enabling the spread of the false claims.
In today’s newsletter, we will break down the three groups of Republicans: the deniers, the enablers and the accepters.
We’ll also give you the latest results from last night’s primary elections in Florida, New York and Oklahoma.
The deniers
Republicans who falsely claimed that the 2020 presidential election was fraudulent now make up more than half of the party’s major elected officials in some states. In the House of Representatives, almost two-thirds of current Republican members objected to the 2020 result in at least one state. So did eight senators and attorneys general in 17 states.
This faction of Republicans seems to be growing, too. Overall, Republican voters have nominated more than 100 candidates for Congress or statewide office who echo Trump’s false claims of fraud. The Washington Post has compiled a list, and it includes top officials in several swing states — like Michigan and Pennsylvania — that could determine the 2024 presidential election.
Last night’s voting: In Oklahoma, Republicans nominated Markwayne Mullin, a Trump-endorsed congressman who has claimed that the 2020 election was stolen, in a Senate primary runoff.
The enablers
Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida is a telling case study. Many political analysts believe that DeSantis is likely to run for president in 2024. As he prepares for a potential campaign, DeSantis is trying to distinguish himself from Trump while also appealing to Trump’s supporters.
Ron DeSantis at a rally in Phoenix this month.Rebecca Noble for The New York Times One way he seems to be doing so is his approach to the false claims about the 2020 election. He has studiously avoided making them himself. (As Politico puts it: “When asked by reporters whether the last presidential election was rigged, DeSantis has instead highlighted changes to election laws he has supported or simply changed the topic.”) At the same time, DeSantis is embracing other Republicans who do echo Trump’s lies.
He traveled to Arizona to campaign for Kari Lake, the Republican nominee for governor, and Blake Masters, the Senate nominee. In Pittsburgh last week, DeSantis gave a 40-minute speech at an event for Doug Mastriano, the Pennsylvania governor nominee. DeSantis has also held a rally with J.D. Vance, the Ohio Senate candidate who has claimed that 2020 featured “people voting illegally on a large-scale basis.”
Among the other Republican enablers:
- Gov. Doug Ducey of Arizona — despite saying that Lake was “misleading voters” about election fraud — is supporting her in the general election. “It’s important for Arizona Republicans to unite behind our slate of candidates,” he tweeted.
- Gov. Glenn Youngkin of Virginia is scheduled to campaign this week with Tudor Dixon, the Republican nominee for Michigan governor, who has made false election claims.
- McConnell has endorsed Herschel Walker, the Trump-backed Georgia Senate candidate who has also repeatedly made false election claims. And a group affiliated with McConnell recently announced it would spend tens of millions of dollars on TV and radio ads to boost Vance.
The accepters
The number of Republicans who have treated false election claims as a defining issue is much smaller, but it’s not zero:
- Larry Hogan, Maryland’s Republican governor (who cannot run again, because of term limits), is refusing to endorse and is harshly criticizing his party’s nominee for governor this year, Dan Cox. Cox has called the 2020 election fraudulent and chartered buses for the Trump rally that preceded the Jan. 6 riot.
- John Bridgeland, a Republican former staffer to Rob Portman and George W. Bush, endorsed Tim Ryan, the Ohio Democrat running for Senate, over Vance. “If Vance is willing to undermine his own integrity and character for public office, imagine what he might do if he were a U.S. senator,” Bridgeland wrote in The Cincinnati Enquirer.
- In the Colorado Senate race, Joe O’Dea won the Republican nomination over a rival who attended Trump’s Jan. 6 “Stop the Steal” rally. O’Dea criticized his opponent for focusing on the past.
- Most prominently, Representative Liz Cheney, who lost in a primary last week to Harriet Hageman, called on voters to oust election-denying Republicans. “Let us resolve that we will stand together — Republicans, Democrats and independents — against those who would destroy our republic,” Cheney said in her concession speech.
The bottom line: It remains unclear whether the Republicans denying the 2020 election result — or the Republicans enabling those deniers — would ultimately be willing to overturn a future election. But their words and behavior certainly suggest that they might participate in such an effort or at least tolerate it.
More results
- In Florida, Democrats chose Representative Charlie Crist — the former Republican governor — to challenge DeSantis.
- Democrats outperformed polls in two House special elections in upstate New York, winning one and losing the other by single digits.
- In New York City, Jerry Nadler defeated Carolyn Maloney in a battle between powerful, long-serving House Democrats after a redrawn map combined their districts.
- In New York’s suburbs, Sean Patrick Maloney, chair of the Democratic House campaign committee, beat Alessandra Biaggi, a progressive state senator endorsed by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
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Charlie Crist again, eh?
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