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We’re talking the national security of the US and every elected repub needs to be put on the record as to who and what they support. Might be time to convene the senate select intelligence committee gang of 8 and brief them on what was missing and needed to be returned.gimmesometruth27 said:maga twitter is discussing the prospect of civil war.
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And they will lose again. Only worse this time because the government has better weapons. Fuck themgimmesometruth27 said:maga twitter is discussing the prospect of civil war.
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McCarthy the traitor releases a statement threatening AG Garland while Chucky Baby refuses to comment on Rachel Mad Cow
until additional information becomes available and would rather discuss BBB, stripped down as it is.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I'd REALLLY like to know what these slack jawed yokels think a civil war would look like. they think they have 70 million people willing to engage an armed military? christ on a cracker, fuck these people are stupid.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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They think the military is on their side and the police.HughFreakingDillon said:I'd REALLLY like to know what these slack jawed yokels think a civil war would look like. they think they have 70 million people willing to engage an armed military? christ on a cracker, fuck these people are stupid.
they aren’t totally wrong. I’d imagine a lot would switch sides or refuse to carry out orders
our military can’t defeat insurgents in other countries, and it’s impossible to defeat an ideology.Post edited by Cropduster-80 on0 -
Nah, this is just softening them up for the real charges.static111 said:
Anything is going to play to the cult when it comes to the persecution defense. Obviously justice needs to be served but I am really hoping for something more than a records violation that would feed into the paranoia of the right that trump is being targeted for purely political reasons.mrussel1 said:
CBS was reporting that it was a violation of the records retention act. It seems they are there to recover documents that belong to the gov't. If that's the case, my guess is this is the limit of the 'intrusion'.static111 said:They better get some serious proof of something or this is going to blow up in all of our faces.
BTW, while the crime of destroying or otherwise compromising federal records is only a misdemeanor (I believe), it does make you ineligible to hold federal office.0 -
That at least would be better than nothingmrussel1 said:
Nah, this is just softening them up for the real charges.static111 said:
Anything is going to play to the cult when it comes to the persecution defense. Obviously justice needs to be served but I am really hoping for something more than a records violation that would feed into the paranoia of the right that trump is being targeted for purely political reasons.mrussel1 said:
CBS was reporting that it was a violation of the records retention act. It seems they are there to recover documents that belong to the gov't. If that's the case, my guess is this is the limit of the 'intrusion'.static111 said:They better get some serious proof of something or this is going to blow up in all of our faces.
BTW, while the crime of destroying or otherwise compromising federal records is only a misdemeanor (I believe), it does make you ineligible to hold federal office.Scio me nihil scire
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Not the presidency.mrussel1 said:
Nah, this is just softening them up for the real charges.static111 said:
Anything is going to play to the cult when it comes to the persecution defense. Obviously justice needs to be served but I am really hoping for something more than a records violation that would feed into the paranoia of the right that trump is being targeted for purely political reasons.mrussel1 said:
CBS was reporting that it was a violation of the records retention act. It seems they are there to recover documents that belong to the gov't. If that's the case, my guess is this is the limit of the 'intrusion'.static111 said:They better get some serious proof of something or this is going to blow up in all of our faces.
BTW, while the crime of destroying or otherwise compromising federal records is only a misdemeanor (I believe), it does make you ineligible to hold federal office.There have been people who have ran from prison before. eugene debs got 4% in 1920 from prison. coincidentally jailed and convicted for violating anti-sedition laws0 -
The statute specifically states that you cannot hold federal office. It also states you forfeit your current office. That's not true of other crimes. So yes, a convicted murderer can be president because neither a statute or Constitution prohibits it. This particular law does. I'll see if I can find it.Cropduster-80 said:
Not the presidency.mrussel1 said:
Nah, this is just softening them up for the real charges.static111 said:
Anything is going to play to the cult when it comes to the persecution defense. Obviously justice needs to be served but I am really hoping for something more than a records violation that would feed into the paranoia of the right that trump is being targeted for purely political reasons.mrussel1 said:
CBS was reporting that it was a violation of the records retention act. It seems they are there to recover documents that belong to the gov't. If that's the case, my guess is this is the limit of the 'intrusion'.static111 said:They better get some serious proof of something or this is going to blow up in all of our faces.
BTW, while the crime of destroying or otherwise compromising federal records is only a misdemeanor (I believe), it does make you ineligible to hold federal office.There have been people who have ran from prison before. eugene debs got 4% in 1920 from prison. coincidentally jailed and convicted for violating anti-sedition laws0 -
The constitutional requirements for president don’t include crimes as a disqualification. I can’t imagine any federal court would allow any law to supersede that.mrussel1 said:
The statute specifically states that you cannot hold federal office. It also states you forfeit your current office. That's not true of other crimes. So yes, a convicted murderer can be president because neither a statute or Constitution prohibits it. This particular law does. I'll see if I can find it.Cropduster-80 said:
Not the presidency.mrussel1 said:
Nah, this is just softening them up for the real charges.static111 said:
Anything is going to play to the cult when it comes to the persecution defense. Obviously justice needs to be served but I am really hoping for something more than a records violation that would feed into the paranoia of the right that trump is being targeted for purely political reasons.mrussel1 said:
CBS was reporting that it was a violation of the records retention act. It seems they are there to recover documents that belong to the gov't. If that's the case, my guess is this is the limit of the 'intrusion'.static111 said:They better get some serious proof of something or this is going to blow up in all of our faces.
BTW, while the crime of destroying or otherwise compromising federal records is only a misdemeanor (I believe), it does make you ineligible to hold federal office.There have been people who have ran from prison before. eugene debs got 4% in 1920 from prison. coincidentally jailed and convicted for violating anti-sedition lawsI guess a law is a law until it’s challenged. I would think it adds a stipulation not listed in the constitution
the fact we need to determine if a convicted criminal can be president in the first place shows the mess we are inPost edited by Cropduster-80 on0 -
Anything not in the Constitution is left to either the state or the legislative branch. In this case, the legislative branch addressed it.Cropduster-80 said:
The constitutional requirements for president don’t include crimes as a disqualification. I can’t imagine any federal court would allow any law to supersede that.mrussel1 said:
The statute specifically states that you cannot hold federal office. It also states you forfeit your current office. That's not true of other crimes. So yes, a convicted murderer can be president because neither a statute or Constitution prohibits it. This particular law does. I'll see if I can find it.Cropduster-80 said:
Not the presidency.mrussel1 said:
Nah, this is just softening them up for the real charges.static111 said:
Anything is going to play to the cult when it comes to the persecution defense. Obviously justice needs to be served but I am really hoping for something more than a records violation that would feed into the paranoia of the right that trump is being targeted for purely political reasons.mrussel1 said:
CBS was reporting that it was a violation of the records retention act. It seems they are there to recover documents that belong to the gov't. If that's the case, my guess is this is the limit of the 'intrusion'.static111 said:They better get some serious proof of something or this is going to blow up in all of our faces.
BTW, while the crime of destroying or otherwise compromising federal records is only a misdemeanor (I believe), it does make you ineligible to hold federal office.There have been people who have ran from prison before. eugene debs got 4% in 1920 from prison. coincidentally jailed and convicted for violating anti-sedition lawsI guess a law is a law until it’s challenged. I would think it adds a stipulation not listed in the constitution
Edit - in thinking about it, you may be right inasmuch as the qualifications are set forward. It would be a helluva challenge.§2071. Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term "office" does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States
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Sandy Berger was fined $50K, had to perform 100 hours of community service, was put on probation for two years and lost his law license for removing a couple of documents related to his conduct as NSA director. This is a wee little bit more serious than that.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Trump will probably sue the government for way more than that for damaging his beautiful house. He’s probably angling for a free renovation.Halifax2TheMax said:Sandy Berger was fined $50K, had to perform 100 hours of community service, was put on probation for two years and lost his law license for removing a couple of documents related to his conduct as NSA director. This is a wee little bit more serious than that.Consequences to him are probably not even on his radar. Getting something out of it probably is0 -
Boy am I fucked.
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static111 said:
Anything is going to play to the cult when it comes to the persecution defense. Obviously justice needs to be served but I am really hoping for something more than a records violation that would feed into the paranoia of the right that trump is being targeted for purely political reasons.mrussel1 said:
CBS was reporting that it was a violation of the records retention act. It seems they are there to recover documents that belong to the gov't. If that's the case, my guess is this is the limit of the 'intrusion'.static111 said:They better get some serious proof of something or this is going to blow up in all of our faces.Which is why the cult shouldn't set any of the criteria about what's suitable evidence for any of his crimes and which of his crimes deserve punishment. He committed multiple crimes out in the open and they laughed it off. Manafort just said he shared polling data with Russians, which was something also pointed out in the Steele Dossier. Not one of them is suddenly going to see this and say "wow, I guess the dossier had valid stuff in it".At this point I don't give a shit if anything blows up in anyone's face. I don't care if it's divisive and I don't want to hear about how we need to come to the center and heal the divide. Depending on how serious the classified info is, this could be one of his more minor crimes. If we can't have him held accountable just for this, we're screwed for at least the next 30 years.0 -
Go Beavers said:static111 said:
Anything is going to play to the cult when it comes to the persecution defense. Obviously justice needs to be served but I am really hoping for something more than a records violation that would feed into the paranoia of the right that trump is being targeted for purely political reasons.mrussel1 said:
CBS was reporting that it was a violation of the records retention act. It seems they are there to recover documents that belong to the gov't. If that's the case, my guess is this is the limit of the 'intrusion'.static111 said:They better get some serious proof of something or this is going to blow up in all of our faces.Which is why the cult shouldn't set any of the criteria about what's suitable evidence for any of his crimes and which of his crimes deserve punishment. He committed multiple crimes out in the open and they laughed it off. Manafort just said he shared polling data with Russians, which was something also pointed out in the Steele Dossier. Not one of them is suddenly going to see this and say "wow, I guess the dossier had valid stuff in it".At this point I don't give a shit if anything blows up in anyone's face. I don't care if it's divisive and I don't want to hear about how we need to come to the center and heal the divide. Depending on how serious the classified info is, this could be one of his more minor crimes. If we can't have him held accountable just for this, we're screwed for at least the next 30 years.Yeah, I agree. Unfortunately, I don't see anyway the divide can be healed. Letting 45 and his cult following off the hook would be a huge injustice and would play right into the hands of those who want to destroy democracy. It would make no sense to do that.I do get get what static111 said about wanting to see more of the crimes brought to light in carrying out justice, but backing down to appease cultists is not going to stop them from being cultists. If anything, it will encourage them."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
brianlux said:Go Beavers said:static111 said:
Anything is going to play to the cult when it comes to the persecution defense. Obviously justice needs to be served but I am really hoping for something more than a records violation that would feed into the paranoia of the right that trump is being targeted for purely political reasons.mrussel1 said:
CBS was reporting that it was a violation of the records retention act. It seems they are there to recover documents that belong to the gov't. If that's the case, my guess is this is the limit of the 'intrusion'.static111 said:They better get some serious proof of something or this is going to blow up in all of our faces.Which is why the cult shouldn't set any of the criteria about what's suitable evidence for any of his crimes and which of his crimes deserve punishment. He committed multiple crimes out in the open and they laughed it off. Manafort just said he shared polling data with Russians, which was something also pointed out in the Steele Dossier. Not one of them is suddenly going to see this and say "wow, I guess the dossier had valid stuff in it".At this point I don't give a shit if anything blows up in anyone's face. I don't care if it's divisive and I don't want to hear about how we need to come to the center and heal the divide. Depending on how serious the classified info is, this could be one of his more minor crimes. If we can't have him held accountable just for this, we're screwed for at least the next 30 years.Yeah, I agree. Unfortunately, I don't see anyway the divide can be healed. Letting 45 and his cult following off the hook would be a huge injustice and would play right into the hands of those who want to destroy democracy. It would make no sense to do that.I do get get what static111 said about wanting to see more of the crimes brought to light in carrying out justice, but backing down to appease cultists is not going to stop them from being cultists. If anything, it will encourage them.
a lobotomy can't heal the cult
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I’m glad the DOJ isn’t letting the fear of how tfg’s supporters may react dictate how they proceed.0
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