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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    edited May 2022
    Tim Simmons said:
    Theres some cringe shit on LWW. I also think RAW/IN The Beginning is a better take on that record. 

    Gave it a spin today for the first time in years and it's definitely cringey in places. Dont know how I forgot how political and scathing it was. I actually like the instrumentation on it more than anything else, regardless of the lyrics it's just got some really catchy choruses on it as well. I've never heard the RAW version. It's definitely a great little bit of commentary of that time period and more interesting than a lot of his records. I watched some you tube versions of some of the songs and quite a bit of outrage over some songs. One great video of CSNY playing one of the songs and people booing and leaving. The band looked quite pleased by the mixed response they got.

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    Haven't gotten my Craneige Hall-vinyl I ordered last year yet(!). The store says it's suppose to be available in stock again in July. 

    Can I trust that?

    Or should I nab a (much pricier) copy off discogs?

    (on another note, I just bought the following three OBS releases)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Haven't gotten my Craneige Hall-vinyl I ordered last year yet(!). The store says it's suppose to be available in stock again in July. 

    Can I trust that?

    Or should I nab a (much pricier) copy off discogs?

    (on another note, I just bought the following three OBS releases)
    I returned a couple of copies to Amazon when it came out as both had crushed corners and now it's proving difficult for me to find for a reasonable price. It seems a bit early to be spending much over the initial price.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,812
    goldrush said:
    brianlux said:
    goldrush said:
    brianlux said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So for you NY experts, are people ordering all of these new boots on vinyl?  Seems pretty redundant to Massey, Shakespeare, Cellar Door, Carnegie with the exception of Citizen Kane, which is heavy with On the Beach.  I ordered that one for sure.  

    It's hard to be a "completist" on NY.  
    Especially because that means I would have to willingly own Are You Passionate? and Fork in the Road.

    Haha!  I willingly own both of those albums on vinyl but I'm no where nearly an NY completist.  I only have 44 Niel LPs and a mere 14 CDs.
    Honestly, I’d love to have  Are You Passionate on vinyl, but Discogs prices - plus shipping to Australia - have priced me out so far.
    It’s one of only 4 studio releases I don’t have on vinyl. Yet…

    I just looked at what Discogs has and am surprised at these prices (although these days, I guess I shouldn't be).  It's so weird to see an album that has been panned the way that one has go for so much.  There are definitely some duds on that double LP, but the good stuff there is worth having.  I hope you manage to find a reasonable copy some time! 
    Just curious, what others are you missing?
    The only other studio records I’m missing are Living With War, Living With War: In The Beginning, and Prairie Wind.

    AYP and the 2 LWWs are not among my favourite Neil albums but I love Prairie Wind, I think it’s a great album. I’ll get hold of them one day.

    I also need Road Rock and Year of the Horse to complete the set. As Tim said, I’m also too close to stop now!

    Good, keep going!  :-D
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    FR181798 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Haven't gotten my Craneige Hall-vinyl I ordered last year yet(!). The store says it's suppose to be available in stock again in July. 

    Can I trust that?

    Or should I nab a (much pricier) copy off discogs?

    (on another note, I just bought the following three OBS releases)
    I returned a couple of copies to Amazon when it came out as both had crushed corners and now it's proving difficult for me to find for a reasonable price. It seems a bit early to be spending much over the initial price.
    yeah Maybe. Just getting stressed about not getting it, and then them having it in stock again is being pushed (and now ill july....)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674


    So why does the bottom one have severe jpeg artefacts?

    And why does it clearly show digital pizelation on the images?

    This can not be how the original bootlegs looked?!?


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,232
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    I can't wait for citizen cain jr to be available in the US.  Not even worried about the pixels
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    static111 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    I can't wait for citizen cain jr to be available in the US.  Not even worried about the pixels
    I wished he would have 

    1) found the original photo sources and redone the graphic and done a "spruced up" cover --with also all the photo assets etc looking superior to the original bootleg - JUST LIKE THE AUDIO.

    or

    2) done some reproscan of the bootleg artwork.

    This look like he saved down JPEGs from google... haha...

    (Or maybe the original bootlegs look like this......)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,864
    I’m still waiting for my OBS vinyl I ordered from Greedy Hand. It always takes longer to get to Australia though.

    My ORS box 4 turned up yesterday. With tongue firmly in cheek, in the spirit of S_C picking on artwork I’ll point out that the sticker on the box says “Historically accurate artwork”:



    When, in fact, the sleeve for This Note’s For You isn’t the same as the original. It’s a darker version of the sleeve without The Bluenotes listed:



    It still sounds good though!
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    goldrush said:
    I’m still waiting for my OBS vinyl I ordered from Greedy Hand. It always takes longer to get to Australia though.

    My ORS box 4 turned up yesterday. With tongue firmly in cheek, in the spirit of S_C picking on artwork I’ll point out that the sticker on the box says “Historically accurate artwork”:



    When, in fact, the sleeve for This Note’s For You isn’t the same as the original. It’s a darker version of the sleeve without The Bluenotes listed:



    It still sounds good though!
    Is there a history with the cover without "& the Bluenotes" ? He wasn't allowed to use it and had to revise the cover?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,864
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    goldrush said:
    I’m still waiting for my OBS vinyl I ordered from Greedy Hand. It always takes longer to get to Australia though.

    My ORS box 4 turned up yesterday. With tongue firmly in cheek, in the spirit of S_C picking on artwork I’ll point out that the sticker on the box says “Historically accurate artwork”:



    When, in fact, the sleeve for This Note’s For You isn’t the same as the original. It’s a darker version of the sleeve without The Bluenotes listed:



    It still sounds good though!
    Is there a history with the cover without "& the Bluenotes" ? He wasn't allowed to use it and had to revise the cover?
    Yeah there was soul band called Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes in the 70s. Melvin took legal action after Neil released the album so he had to change it.
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,232
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    static111 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    I can't wait for citizen cain jr to be available in the US.  Not even worried about the pixels
    I wished he would have 

    1) found the original photo sources and redone the graphic and done a "spruced up" cover --with also all the photo assets etc looking superior to the original bootleg - JUST LIKE THE AUDIO.

    or

    2) done some reproscan of the bootleg artwork.

    This look like he saved down JPEGs from google... haha...

    (Or maybe the original bootlegs look like this......)
    So how does Citizen Cain Jr sound?  I had that on cassette in the 90's and loved it but the sound was very muffled.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    static111 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    static111 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    I can't wait for citizen cain jr to be available in the US.  Not even worried about the pixels
    I wished he would have 

    1) found the original photo sources and redone the graphic and done a "spruced up" cover --with also all the photo assets etc looking superior to the original bootleg - JUST LIKE THE AUDIO.

    or

    2) done some reproscan of the bootleg artwork.

    This look like he saved down JPEGs from google... haha...

    (Or maybe the original bootlegs look like this......)
    So how does Citizen Cain Jr sound?  I had that on cassette in the 90's and loved it but the sound was very muffled.
    Doesn't look good.  This may be a pressing of the actual audience recording.  https://www.discogs.com/release/21874963-Neil-Young-Citizen-Kane-Jr-Blues
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    edited May 2022
    static111 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    static111 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    I can't wait for citizen cain jr to be available in the US.  Not even worried about the pixels
    I wished he would have 

    1) found the original photo sources and redone the graphic and done a "spruced up" cover --with also all the photo assets etc looking superior to the original bootleg - JUST LIKE THE AUDIO.

    or

    2) done some reproscan of the bootleg artwork.

    This look like he saved down JPEGs from google... haha...

    (Or maybe the original bootlegs look like this......)
    So how does Citizen Cain Jr sound?  I had that on cassette in the 90's and loved it but the sound was very muffled.
    Haven't listened to them yet. I just got new speakers yesterday that I installed... and all I have listened to since then is On the Beach, KISS Smashes, Trashes & Hits and a swedish forgotten and hard to come by gem of an album.

    I CAN'T MAKE THE AUDIO FROM THE TV USING HDMI ARC TO WORK WITH MY RECIEVERS AND THE SPEAKERS THOUGH. DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG.

    But wait,  I thought all these were made from Neils archive of multitrack recordings? 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    edited May 2022
    I feeel fooled if these are audience boots? 

    The cool things about these release were (to my understanding) that he swapped poor sounding audience boots with quality mixed sound...

    I will return these then I think.

    Ugly covers AND shit sound?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,864
    edited May 2022
    Four of the six originally-announced OBS releases were from multi track masters, Citizen Kane Jr is not one of them.
    From NYA:





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    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    goldrush said:
    Four of the six originally-announced OBS releases were from multi track masters, Citizen Kane Jr is not one of them.
    From NYA:





    Hmm. Should I just buy the multi tracks or be one of those disgusting completists... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,348
    edited May 2022
    Yeah, citizen Kane does sound like a bootleg, but it’s still pretty cool to have. Really wish PJ would do this. I’d love to have a bunch of those old import bootlegs pressed like this.


    the quality of the record itself is top notch. Pretty sure it’s RTI. And of course cut by Bellman.
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,864
    There was some preorder info for Toast on NYA briefly today, but it’s been taken down now.



    The text is taken from an old article about Toast, but the part with the preorder date is new. 
    Let’s see if it reappears…
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)

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