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i'm really, really sorry that people are showing up and making the justices feel discomfort. maybe they will accept my thoughts and prayers during this trying time."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Oh please. I thought it was my “obsession?” By Calvin Klein?HughFreakingDillon said:yeah, sure, we're falling for it. falling for knowing how to be objective and not constantly outraged by everything in the news cycle every single day.
IMHO you are falling for it. You’re seemingly not seeing the effect of comparing what one side does, regularly, and what the other not so bad side does and either equating them, saying they’re both wrong or that they’re both unethical. Your attitude, thought process or complacency, for lack of a better word or descriptor, is exactly the desired effect. Pretty soon the only “safe spaces” for peaceful protest will be in designated pens far removed from the object of protest. Like the 2004 Repub National Convention. Unless you’re white, Christian and armed. Then everything and everywhere is fair game.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Nope. I can look at each event and decide what level of outrage, if any, is required for each. I don't need to compare to decide.
How am I falling for something when I'm of the same opinion on this matter as I would have been 20 years ago?
Frankly, I'm not outraged at the protests at the homes. I merely stated that I didn't think it was appropriate. It makes me mildly uncomfortable, if you will. Now, showing up at a ledge with ar-15's in tow? yeah, that's quite concerning. that's another level of intimidation unto itself.
Your slippery slope concern isn't valid. They can protest wherever they want. I just have a line, and that line is personal residences. It's a lower level of intimidation that has the potential for escalation. When you involve a person's residence, you are potentially involving people that have no business being involved; the justices' children, families, staff, friends, what have you. That's my issue.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
You can stoop without stooping as low.gimmesometruth27 said:
let me know when we show up with ar-15s.mrussel1 said:I agree with Hugh. The left should not stoop to the right's level and attempt to intimidate a person by protesting in front of their home. And to me, I see it as an attempt to intimidate.0 -
No, you're treating this as a comparative, and Hugh and I are not. We are starting with the statement "I don't think people should protest in front of anyone's home". That's it. Doesn't matter if it is right or left, believe in the cause or not.Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh please. I thought it was my “obsession?” By Calvin Klein?HughFreakingDillon said:yeah, sure, we're falling for it. falling for knowing how to be objective and not constantly outraged by everything in the news cycle every single day.
IMHO you are falling for it. You’re seemingly not seeing the effect of comparing what one side does, regularly, and what the other not so bad side does and either equating them, saying they’re both wrong or that they’re both unethical. Your attitude, thought process or complacency, for lack of a better word or descriptor, is exactly the desired effect. Pretty soon the only “safe spaces” for peaceful protest will be in designated pens far removed from the object of protest. Like the 2004 Repub National Convention. Unless you’re white, Christian and armed. Then everything and everywhere is fair game.0 -
also referred to as a "stooper".mrussel1 said:
You can stoop without stooping as low.gimmesometruth27 said:
let me know when we show up with ar-15s.mrussel1 said:I agree with Hugh. The left should not stoop to the right's level and attempt to intimidate a person by protesting in front of their home. And to me, I see it as an attempt to intimidate.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:Nope. I can look at each event and decide what level of outrage, if any, is required for each. I don't need to compare to decide.
How am I falling for something when I'm of the same opinion on this matter as I would have been 20 years ago?
Frankly, I'm not outraged at the protests at the homes. I merely stated that I didn't think it was appropriate. It makes me mildly uncomfortable, if you will. Now, showing up at a ledge with ar-15's in tow? yeah, that's quite concerning. that's another level of intimidation unto itself.
Your slippery slope concern isn't valid. They can protest wherever they want. I just have a line, and that line is personal residences. It's a lower level of intimidation that has the potential for escalation. When you involve a person's residence, you are potentially involving people that have no business being involved; the justices' children, families, staff, friends, what have you. That's my issue.
I have a slightly different take. We don't vote for the Justices. They do not answer to us. They can go thru their entire lives never appearing in public or answering questions to us, to the media, to anybody.
Quite frankly, I'm surprised they live on residential streets and not in a private compound. I'm sure that's about to change, and the public will have zero ability for them to hear us. Of course this is enhanced by their lifetime appointments.
SCOTUS said the right to protest can not even be buffered by a 35 foot zone. Well, if anyone ever deserved to suffer from their own bad decisions, Its this Court0 -
So public spaces are a no go for exercising constitutionally protected rights? Because there are residences there?mrussel1 said:
No, you're treating this as a comparative, and Hugh and I are not. We are starting with the statement "I don't think people should protest in front of anyone's home". That's it. Doesn't matter if it is right or left, believe in the cause or not.Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh please. I thought it was my “obsession?” By Calvin Klein?HughFreakingDillon said:yeah, sure, we're falling for it. falling for knowing how to be objective and not constantly outraged by everything in the news cycle every single day.
IMHO you are falling for it. You’re seemingly not seeing the effect of comparing what one side does, regularly, and what the other not so bad side does and either equating them, saying they’re both wrong or that they’re both unethical. Your attitude, thought process or complacency, for lack of a better word or descriptor, is exactly the desired effect. Pretty soon the only “safe spaces” for peaceful protest will be in designated pens far removed from the object of protest. Like the 2004 Repub National Convention. Unless you’re white, Christian and armed. Then everything and everywhere is fair game.
Funny that other posters have posted similar situations, just that they weren’t SCOTUS, and there have been a bunch of others to make the news and nary a peep about protesting in front of residences. Guess SCOTUS is special?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Because I don’t recall your “outrage”, your term not mine, at any other manner of protest, whether it was God hates fags at military funerals, the daily clinic protests and “intimidation” that occurs, the shouting down of school committee meetings and candidate forums or armed protesters occupying state houses. But peaceful protest outside a SCOTUS residence, or in mrussel’s case, any residence, crosses a line. Okay, weird.HughFreakingDillon said:Nope. I can look at each event and decide what level of outrage, if any, is required for each. I don't need to compare to decide.
How am I falling for something when I'm of the same opinion on this matter as I would have been 20 years ago?
Frankly, I'm not outraged at the protests at the homes. I merely stated that I didn't think it was appropriate. It makes me mildly uncomfortable, if you will. Now, showing up at a ledge with ar-15's in tow? yeah, that's quite concerning. that's another level of intimidation unto itself.
Your slippery slope concern isn't valid. They can protest wherever they want. I just have a line, and that line is personal residences. It's a lower level of intimidation that has the potential for escalation. When you involve a person's residence, you are potentially involving people that have no business being involved; the justices' children, families, staff, friends, what have you. That's my issue.
Doesn’t any protest have the potential to involve people that have no business being involved or to attract “nut cases?”
And no, “they” cannot protest anywhere they want. Or do you mean like on interstate highways during rush hour?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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WTF is up with the three dots thing at the end of the first sentence? Grrrrrrrrrrrr!09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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I didn't say it was illegal or not constitutionally protected, I said I don't think it should be done.Halifax2TheMax said:
So public spaces are a no go for exercising constitutionally protected rights? Because there are residences there?mrussel1 said:
No, you're treating this as a comparative, and Hugh and I are not. We are starting with the statement "I don't think people should protest in front of anyone's home". That's it. Doesn't matter if it is right or left, believe in the cause or not.Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh please. I thought it was my “obsession?” By Calvin Klein?HughFreakingDillon said:yeah, sure, we're falling for it. falling for knowing how to be objective and not constantly outraged by everything in the news cycle every single day.
IMHO you are falling for it. You’re seemingly not seeing the effect of comparing what one side does, regularly, and what the other not so bad side does and either equating them, saying they’re both wrong or that they’re both unethical. Your attitude, thought process or complacency, for lack of a better word or descriptor, is exactly the desired effect. Pretty soon the only “safe spaces” for peaceful protest will be in designated pens far removed from the object of protest. Like the 2004 Repub National Convention. Unless you’re white, Christian and armed. Then everything and everywhere is fair game.
Funny that other posters have posted similar situations, just that they weren’t SCOTUS, and there have been a bunch of others to make the news and nary a peep about protesting in front of residences. Guess SCOTUS is special?0 -
I didn’t claim that you said or thought either of those things. I understand you think it shouldn’t be done. I’m trying to understand why you think that.mrussel1 said:
I didn't say it was illegal or not constitutionally protected, I said I don't think it should be done.Halifax2TheMax said:
So public spaces are a no go for exercising constitutionally protected rights? Because there are residences there?mrussel1 said:
No, you're treating this as a comparative, and Hugh and I are not. We are starting with the statement "I don't think people should protest in front of anyone's home". That's it. Doesn't matter if it is right or left, believe in the cause or not.Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh please. I thought it was my “obsession?” By Calvin Klein?HughFreakingDillon said:yeah, sure, we're falling for it. falling for knowing how to be objective and not constantly outraged by everything in the news cycle every single day.
IMHO you are falling for it. You’re seemingly not seeing the effect of comparing what one side does, regularly, and what the other not so bad side does and either equating them, saying they’re both wrong or that they’re both unethical. Your attitude, thought process or complacency, for lack of a better word or descriptor, is exactly the desired effect. Pretty soon the only “safe spaces” for peaceful protest will be in designated pens far removed from the object of protest. Like the 2004 Repub National Convention. Unless you’re white, Christian and armed. Then everything and everywhere is fair game.
Funny that other posters have posted similar situations, just that they weren’t SCOTUS, and there have been a bunch of others to make the news and nary a peep about protesting in front of residences. Guess SCOTUS is special?
What makes peaceful protest outside of any residence unacceptable to you? Should it be restricted or illegal? To peacefully protest outside any residence?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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I think a person should have their privacy at home. Yes, I believe in privacy even for justices who don't.Halifax2TheMax said:
I didn’t claim that you said or thought either of those things. I understand you think it shouldn’t be done. I’m trying to understand why you think that.mrussel1 said:
I didn't say it was illegal or not constitutionally protected, I said I don't think it should be done.Halifax2TheMax said:
So public spaces are a no go for exercising constitutionally protected rights? Because there are residences there?mrussel1 said:
No, you're treating this as a comparative, and Hugh and I are not. We are starting with the statement "I don't think people should protest in front of anyone's home". That's it. Doesn't matter if it is right or left, believe in the cause or not.Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh please. I thought it was my “obsession?” By Calvin Klein?HughFreakingDillon said:yeah, sure, we're falling for it. falling for knowing how to be objective and not constantly outraged by everything in the news cycle every single day.
IMHO you are falling for it. You’re seemingly not seeing the effect of comparing what one side does, regularly, and what the other not so bad side does and either equating them, saying they’re both wrong or that they’re both unethical. Your attitude, thought process or complacency, for lack of a better word or descriptor, is exactly the desired effect. Pretty soon the only “safe spaces” for peaceful protest will be in designated pens far removed from the object of protest. Like the 2004 Repub National Convention. Unless you’re white, Christian and armed. Then everything and everywhere is fair game.
Funny that other posters have posted similar situations, just that they weren’t SCOTUS, and there have been a bunch of others to make the news and nary a peep about protesting in front of residences. Guess SCOTUS is special?
What makes peaceful protest outside of any residence unacceptable to you? Should it be restricted or illegal? To peacefully protest outside any residence?0 -
i'd appoint you to the court.mrussel1 said:
I think a person should have their privacy at home. Yes, I believe in privacy even for justices who don't.Halifax2TheMax said:
I didn’t claim that you said or thought either of those things. I understand you think it shouldn’t be done. I’m trying to understand why you think that.mrussel1 said:
I didn't say it was illegal or not constitutionally protected, I said I don't think it should be done.Halifax2TheMax said:
So public spaces are a no go for exercising constitutionally protected rights? Because there are residences there?mrussel1 said:
No, you're treating this as a comparative, and Hugh and I are not. We are starting with the statement "I don't think people should protest in front of anyone's home". That's it. Doesn't matter if it is right or left, believe in the cause or not.Halifax2TheMax said:
Oh please. I thought it was my “obsession?” By Calvin Klein?HughFreakingDillon said:yeah, sure, we're falling for it. falling for knowing how to be objective and not constantly outraged by everything in the news cycle every single day.
IMHO you are falling for it. You’re seemingly not seeing the effect of comparing what one side does, regularly, and what the other not so bad side does and either equating them, saying they’re both wrong or that they’re both unethical. Your attitude, thought process or complacency, for lack of a better word or descriptor, is exactly the desired effect. Pretty soon the only “safe spaces” for peaceful protest will be in designated pens far removed from the object of protest. Like the 2004 Repub National Convention. Unless you’re white, Christian and armed. Then everything and everywhere is fair game.
Funny that other posters have posted similar situations, just that they weren’t SCOTUS, and there have been a bunch of others to make the news and nary a peep about protesting in front of residences. Guess SCOTUS is special?
What makes peaceful protest outside of any residence unacceptable to you? Should it be restricted or illegal? To peacefully protest outside any residence?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
not every thought I have ever had is put in print here on this website.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because I don’t recall your “outrage”, your term not mine, at any other manner of protest, whether it was God hates fags at military funerals, the daily clinic protests and “intimidation” that occurs, the shouting down of school committee meetings and candidate forums or armed protesters occupying state houses. But peaceful protest outside a SCOTUS residence, or in mrussel’s case, any residence, crosses a line. Okay, weird.HughFreakingDillon said:Nope. I can look at each event and decide what level of outrage, if any, is required for each. I don't need to compare to decide.
How am I falling for something when I'm of the same opinion on this matter as I would have been 20 years ago?
Frankly, I'm not outraged at the protests at the homes. I merely stated that I didn't think it was appropriate. It makes me mildly uncomfortable, if you will. Now, showing up at a ledge with ar-15's in tow? yeah, that's quite concerning. that's another level of intimidation unto itself.
Your slippery slope concern isn't valid. They can protest wherever they want. I just have a line, and that line is personal residences. It's a lower level of intimidation that has the potential for escalation. When you involve a person's residence, you are potentially involving people that have no business being involved; the justices' children, families, staff, friends, what have you. That's my issue.
Doesn’t any protest have the potential to involve people that have no business being involved or to attract “nut cases?”
And no, “they” cannot protest anywhere they want. Or do you mean like on interstate highways during rush hour?
weird, I know.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
I can only imagine.HughFreakingDillon said:
not every thought I have ever had is put in print here on this website.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because I don’t recall your “outrage”, your term not mine, at any other manner of protest, whether it was God hates fags at military funerals, the daily clinic protests and “intimidation” that occurs, the shouting down of school committee meetings and candidate forums or armed protesters occupying state houses. But peaceful protest outside a SCOTUS residence, or in mrussel’s case, any residence, crosses a line. Okay, weird.HughFreakingDillon said:Nope. I can look at each event and decide what level of outrage, if any, is required for each. I don't need to compare to decide.
How am I falling for something when I'm of the same opinion on this matter as I would have been 20 years ago?
Frankly, I'm not outraged at the protests at the homes. I merely stated that I didn't think it was appropriate. It makes me mildly uncomfortable, if you will. Now, showing up at a ledge with ar-15's in tow? yeah, that's quite concerning. that's another level of intimidation unto itself.
Your slippery slope concern isn't valid. They can protest wherever they want. I just have a line, and that line is personal residences. It's a lower level of intimidation that has the potential for escalation. When you involve a person's residence, you are potentially involving people that have no business being involved; the justices' children, families, staff, friends, what have you. That's my issue.
Doesn’t any protest have the potential to involve people that have no business being involved or to attract “nut cases?”
And no, “they” cannot protest anywhere they want. Or do you mean like on interstate highways during rush hour?
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I obviously meant anywhere they are legally allowed to do so. But sure, we'll go with your "literal take as snappy rebuttal attempt".Halifax2TheMax said:
Because I don’t recall your “outrage”, your term not mine, at any other manner of protest, whether it was God hates fags at military funerals, the daily clinic protests and “intimidation” that occurs, the shouting down of school committee meetings and candidate forums or armed protesters occupying state houses. But peaceful protest outside a SCOTUS residence, or in mrussel’s case, any residence, crosses a line. Okay, weird.HughFreakingDillon said:Nope. I can look at each event and decide what level of outrage, if any, is required for each. I don't need to compare to decide.
How am I falling for something when I'm of the same opinion on this matter as I would have been 20 years ago?
Frankly, I'm not outraged at the protests at the homes. I merely stated that I didn't think it was appropriate. It makes me mildly uncomfortable, if you will. Now, showing up at a ledge with ar-15's in tow? yeah, that's quite concerning. that's another level of intimidation unto itself.
Your slippery slope concern isn't valid. They can protest wherever they want. I just have a line, and that line is personal residences. It's a lower level of intimidation that has the potential for escalation. When you involve a person's residence, you are potentially involving people that have no business being involved; the justices' children, families, staff, friends, what have you. That's my issue.
Doesn’t any protest have the potential to involve people that have no business being involved or to attract “nut cases?”
And no, “they” cannot protest anywhere they want. Or do you mean like on interstate highways during rush hour?Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
In front of residences on public property is legally allowed. How do you square that? Literally?HughFreakingDillon said:
I obviously meant anywhere they are legally allowed to do so. But sure, we'll go with your "literal take as snappy rebuttal attempt".Halifax2TheMax said:
Because I don’t recall your “outrage”, your term not mine, at any other manner of protest, whether it was God hates fags at military funerals, the daily clinic protests and “intimidation” that occurs, the shouting down of school committee meetings and candidate forums or armed protesters occupying state houses. But peaceful protest outside a SCOTUS residence, or in mrussel’s case, any residence, crosses a line. Okay, weird.HughFreakingDillon said:Nope. I can look at each event and decide what level of outrage, if any, is required for each. I don't need to compare to decide.
How am I falling for something when I'm of the same opinion on this matter as I would have been 20 years ago?
Frankly, I'm not outraged at the protests at the homes. I merely stated that I didn't think it was appropriate. It makes me mildly uncomfortable, if you will. Now, showing up at a ledge with ar-15's in tow? yeah, that's quite concerning. that's another level of intimidation unto itself.
Your slippery slope concern isn't valid. They can protest wherever they want. I just have a line, and that line is personal residences. It's a lower level of intimidation that has the potential for escalation. When you involve a person's residence, you are potentially involving people that have no business being involved; the justices' children, families, staff, friends, what have you. That's my issue.
Doesn’t any protest have the potential to involve people that have no business being involved or to attract “nut cases?”
And no, “they” cannot protest anywhere they want. Or do you mean like on interstate highways during rush hour?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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HughFreakingDillon said:
not every thought I have ever had is put in print here on this website.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because I don’t recall your “outrage”, your term not mine, at any other manner of protest, whether it was God hates fags at military funerals, the daily clinic protests and “intimidation” that occurs, the shouting down of school committee meetings and candidate forums or armed protesters occupying state houses. But peaceful protest outside a SCOTUS residence, or in mrussel’s case, any residence, crosses a line. Okay, weird.HughFreakingDillon said:Nope. I can look at each event and decide what level of outrage, if any, is required for each. I don't need to compare to decide.
How am I falling for something when I'm of the same opinion on this matter as I would have been 20 years ago?
Frankly, I'm not outraged at the protests at the homes. I merely stated that I didn't think it was appropriate. It makes me mildly uncomfortable, if you will. Now, showing up at a ledge with ar-15's in tow? yeah, that's quite concerning. that's another level of intimidation unto itself.
Your slippery slope concern isn't valid. They can protest wherever they want. I just have a line, and that line is personal residences. It's a lower level of intimidation that has the potential for escalation. When you involve a person's residence, you are potentially involving people that have no business being involved; the justices' children, families, staff, friends, what have you. That's my issue.
Doesn’t any protest have the potential to involve people that have no business being involved or to attract “nut cases?”
And no, “they” cannot protest anywhere they want. Or do you mean like on interstate highways during rush hour?
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