Depp V Heard (Defamation lawsuit)
Spiritual_Chaos
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What's up with trials being filmed and live-streamed in the US? What is the justification? It's crazy.
And isn't there a risk that cameras inside the room will affect witnesses and other people in there?
Also, Depps first role famously was in this - as mentioned in court:
And isn't there a risk that cameras inside the room will affect witnesses and other people in there?
Also, Depps first role famously was in this - as mentioned in court:
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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Not sure I even care one bit about these trials!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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I’m with you Jose. Who the fuck cares?! We hold these idiots too high up in society. Thats my opinion. Whether it’s the Kardashian obsession, or Will Smith getting away with assaulting someone on live TV, Weinstein getting away with his wonderful behavior for decades…. It’s a cesspool.0
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josevolution said:Not sure I even care one bit about these trials!nicknyr15 said:I’m with you Jose. Who the fuck cares?!
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
You are the one that posted it.Spiritual_Chaos said:josevolution said:Not sure I even care one bit about these trials!nicknyr15 said:I’m with you Jose. Who the fuck cares?!0 -
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You are the one that posted it.Spiritual_Chaos said:josevolution said:Not sure I even care one bit about these trials!nicknyr15 said:I’m with you Jose. Who the fuck cares?!"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I don’t know how common it is to stream a trial. I don’t know anyone who has actually watched any of this live, just see a few highlights in the news.
Many times reporters request cameras and are denied, which is why courtroom sketches are a thing. And I never understood why those professional sketches always look like a third grader did it?
I remember the first trail of the century, the Menendez brothers, cameras were not allowed and that trial was talked about daily on the news. OJ was the first big trial I can remember being televised live.
But it really isn’t that common to have live access to a courtroom like that. Some of the police trials in the last several years because it had national interest, but not even all of those had live access.0 -
the difference is civil vs criminalBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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I don’t think civil or criminal has anything to do with it. Criminal trials are public. So are most civil trials.But people realize very quickly watching a trial isn’t like an episode of Law and Order. It’s slow and very boring. And lawyers and witnesses are horrible entertainers. There’s never that breakthrough moment where they just confess and give up. Makes for awful TV. Judges also can bad cameras if they think it’s going to be a distraction, but that’s pretty rare.Almost no one actually watches these things. They just watch the highlights on TMZ or evening news.
But we (Americans) do have an odd fascination with Hollywood and celebrities. I don’t get it, ive never been into it. How many shows are there that are just basically folllowing around a B-lister star around for a day? Way more than we need.0 -
That's how most television channels and productions exist today, nobody watches them. Well, "almost" nobody.mace1229 said:I don’t think civil or criminal has anything to do with it. Criminal trials are public. So are most civil trials.But people realize very quickly watching a trial isn’t like an episode of Law and Order. It’s slow and very boring. And lawyers and witnesses are horrible entertainers. There’s never that breakthrough moment where they just confess and give up. Makes for awful TV. Judges also can bad cameras if they think it’s going to be a distraction, but that’s pretty rare.Almost no one actually watches these things. They just watch the highlights on TMZ or evening news.
But we (Americans) do have an odd fascination with Hollywood and celebrities. I don’t get it, ive never been into it. How many shows are there that are just basically folllowing around a B-lister star around for a day? Way more than we need.Apr 23, 2021 — Court TV was ranked in the top 15 ahead of such networks as ID, ESPN, TBS, TNT, FX, Discovery Channel and 100 others in viewers 2+ when compared ...09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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That’s about 10 times the amount as I would have predicted. Who actually watches this crap? Must just turn it on in nursing homes and get 100 viewers in 1 shot.Halifax2TheMax said:
That's how most television channels and productions exist today, nobody watches them. Well, "almost" nobody.mace1229 said:I don’t think civil or criminal has anything to do with it. Criminal trials are public. So are most civil trials.But people realize very quickly watching a trial isn’t like an episode of Law and Order. It’s slow and very boring. And lawyers and witnesses are horrible entertainers. There’s never that breakthrough moment where they just confess and give up. Makes for awful TV. Judges also can bad cameras if they think it’s going to be a distraction, but that’s pretty rare.Almost no one actually watches these things. They just watch the highlights on TMZ or evening news.
But we (Americans) do have an odd fascination with Hollywood and celebrities. I don’t get it, ive never been into it. How many shows are there that are just basically folllowing around a B-lister star around for a day? Way more than we need.Apr 23, 2021 — Court TV was ranked in the top 15 ahead of such networks as ID, ESPN, TBS, TNT, FX, Discovery Channel and 100 others in viewers 2+ when compared ...
Still a relatively small number though, 400,000 out of 350 million.
I took the opening comment as implying why are Americans obsessed with watching these trials. After rereading it he didn’t say that. Just asked why do they allow it. I don’t think they should, but I think the justification is the trials are open to the public.0 -
Court TV spawned a whole industry and yea, who watches this crap? Also, waaaay more viewing choices with massive cable expansion, Amazon and Netflix streaming, Hulu, etc., than when Court TV hit the screen. 400K viewers is top 15.
I’ll admit, I watched almost all of the Chauvin & Rottenhouse trials and I watched Maggie Three Names’ administrative court hearing. But the countless others? Stop glorifying scumbaggery and creating wannabes.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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you massively underestimate how many people live and breathe celebrity. and something this salacious? a gorgeous movie star being accused of taking a dump on his bed? my god. that's about as gross(to me) and engrossing (to others) as can be. I'm actually surprised that number isn't a lot higher. but I'm guessing it's because the current generation knows they'll get all the 5 second clips on socials so they don't have to watch it live. back in the day, we either watched it live, or caught the best bits on entertainment tonight.mace1229 said:
That’s about 10 times the amount as I would have predicted. Who actually watches this crap? Must just turn it on in nursing homes and get 100 viewers in 1 shot.Halifax2TheMax said:
That's how most television channels and productions exist today, nobody watches them. Well, "almost" nobody.mace1229 said:I don’t think civil or criminal has anything to do with it. Criminal trials are public. So are most civil trials.But people realize very quickly watching a trial isn’t like an episode of Law and Order. It’s slow and very boring. And lawyers and witnesses are horrible entertainers. There’s never that breakthrough moment where they just confess and give up. Makes for awful TV. Judges also can bad cameras if they think it’s going to be a distraction, but that’s pretty rare.Almost no one actually watches these things. They just watch the highlights on TMZ or evening news.
But we (Americans) do have an odd fascination with Hollywood and celebrities. I don’t get it, ive never been into it. How many shows are there that are just basically folllowing around a B-lister star around for a day? Way more than we need.Apr 23, 2021 — Court TV was ranked in the top 15 ahead of such networks as ID, ESPN, TBS, TNT, FX, Discovery Channel and 100 others in viewers 2+ when compared ...
Still a relatively small number though, 400,000 out of 350 million.
I took the opening comment as implying why are Americans obsessed with watching these trials. After rereading it he didn’t say that. Just asked why do they allow it. I don’t think they should, but I think the justification is the trials are open to the public.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I do.Halifax2TheMax said:who watches this crap?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I do. At least yesterday, they had a British house manager of Depp and Heard's houses in London and Australia on the stand. A very charming man.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
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