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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,222
    Bohm.
    Tsk, tsk, tsk.  Can't be a total puss in the first week, dude.

    Looking really good n in the past week (offensively and defensively). Least we salvaged a win today.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    Now city is going to lift the mask mandate.  Those 4 days must have made a huge difference 
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    pjhawks said:
    Now city is going to lift the mask mandate.  Those 4 days must have made a huge difference 
    Never said this administration isn't a bunch of fucking dummies. Like everything else with this pandemic - all leadership has been a massive disappointment.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Yeah, I don't know. The CDC didn't have us in the danger zone. Seems like they jumped the gun. But I'm happy they did what they did to keep people safe. Also happy they reversed course.

    At this point, with so many people vaccinated (and other dopes gaining immunity from actually risking their lives and getting the virus), as long as hospitalization rates and death counts aren't jumping way up due to a newer, deadlier virus (which obviously can arise at any point), I don't think we need the mandate in place.  
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    If only the CDC also didn't change their policy so often either. And the airlines dropping their policy midflight was just the nail in the coffin of any hope I had for people. You could see empathy just being shoved out a window. Humans are the worst thing on this planet.

    If only health and science officials were setting concrete policy instead of being directed by politicians.

    That's the whole point of wearing masks and doing things to mitigate spread - to be proactive than reactive. Why wait to see whether numbers are going up or not? Just like everything else, that has been used as a policy and it made things worse. Numbers are going up, by the way. Not to mention because of policy change, testing and positive cases will be vastly undercounted due to everyone self-diagnosing now.

    Just a reminder for any dummy out there who got it and isn't vaxed - or even those with the vax - you can get it again. I sincerely wish for it to be endemic one day, but it is not at this point - partly to do with the cavalier idea that once you get it you're all good once you recover. Just because we don't want to live in a pandemic anymore doesn't mean we are in fact not doing so.

    I get it - people have fatigue and trauma from all this shit and they just want it all to go away. Again, unfortunately things don't work that way - I'd rather have someone just admit that up front.

    The only thing worse than the people that don't get the vax because they're hesitant of the long-term effects of the vaccination are those who don't consider the long-term effects of, ya know, a brand new virus that we have limited research on (not called "novel" for no reason!). They're already seeing long-term effects of organ failure for those with Long Covid (vaccination reduces your chance of long covid from 1 in 6 to 1 in 10, not great odds imo). The chicken pox comes back as shingles, etc etc, you see where I'm going with this. As much as I'm not fearing getting it (or getting it again, in my case), if all it takes is to wear a mask indoors in a cramped environment to mitigate that is not a big fucking deal. All because no one wants to be inconvenienced.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    I don't think  it is really about being proactive verses reactive because we can see how the variants are affecting other countries before it even gets here. So far we've been behind the rest of the world. So we've had that benefit and we can adjust our policies accordingly. 

    And this new one, while being more highly transmissible, is not leading to much higher hospitalization and death rates...I believe. I just think we're better prepared to deal new variants than we were 8 months ago before boosters and shit.

    But I also believe, because so many people refused to get vaccinated and take this seriously, that we're likely never going to be done with this fucking thing. So when there is a new variant that's more deadly, not just more transmissible, I'd be all for mandates going into effect then. Just seems like it should be a case by case thing at this point, unfortunately. 


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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    edited April 2022
    But we were/are reactive. We saw what Delta and Omicron were doing, and we didn't do anything until after they got here and shit started shooting up.

    Absolutely agree vaccines put us in a better place than without, but mentally I think that is all people want to here. "I got the shot. Time to move on like nothing happened."

    No, it's never going away. That ship has long sailed. But the idea that we've already moved into the "endemic" stage is wishful thinking on peoples' part than anything that is based in reality.

    And it's more than just masks - like, I'd say air circulation in like 95% of buildings could be improved. If anything this problem should be putting it front and center.

    I come back to that this was our WW2 moment and we all fell flat on our fucking faces. All because there isn't a literal human bad guy to fight, and all ya had to do was put a mask on.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    ANYWAY, Phils play a Sunday night game this weekend - my first game of the season - and I'm not happy about it.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    I understand your points. And I agree we definitely need to handle things better than we did with Delta and Omicron. Biden Admin was woefully slow in providing testing this winter. We have the tools to be better prepared moving forward though.

    Right now cases are up, but hospitalizations, ICU's, and deaths are still down--I am pretty sure that is what happened in the UK and other places over the last few months. Those latter three metrics, to me, are what we should be more focused on regarding if mandates are put into place or not.

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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    And I understand what you're trying to say. But, again, I'm taking that as you saying we should put masks on after the hospitals are filling up. And at that point - the fuck's the point?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    And I understand what you're trying to say. But, again, I'm taking that as you saying we should put masks on after the hospitals are filling up. And at that point - the fuck's the point?
    No I am saying if we see a variant elsewhere in the world that is deadlier and leading to more hospitalizations and is likely to be precursor to what we'll have in the coming weeks, then I'd think a mandate would be worthwhile before we see the same thing here. 

    But for this current one, we have data from the UK and other places that shows it being more transmissible but much less deadly and not leading to higher hospitalization rates than previous variants. So putting the mask mandate in place, I think, wasn't really needed. 

    BUT WHAT THE FUCK DO I KNOW.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    If our public health policy had been as stringent as theirs then I'd be inclined to agree. But it's not apples to apples.

    Outdoors shit is cool though. The research is there that masks outside are silly unless you're literally packed like sardines right up on top of each other.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,372
    Some of us feel like we got our vaxxes & boosters and now we want to expose ourselves to the virus so our body continues to learn how to fight it, especially since it seems like they are never going to update these vaccines. We don't believe, by any means, that the pandemic is over, so please stop saying that. We sacrificed for so long, did our duty getting the shots, and this is our next step.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    But they have and will update the vaccine. Moderna just came out saying as much.

    Wearing a mask is your "duty" of "sacrifice", and no longer doing so is part of your "duty"? Admitting that a pandemic isn't over so mitigations to reduce the spread isn't worth it, and part of said "sacrifice"? What organization of the collective 'we' do you belong to that dictates this approach? 'Cause that's not how viruses, nor vaccines, work.

    "Our". Ha. Thank you for your "duty".

    No one will ever be able to tell me differently that this whole thing is the biggest paradigm shift in society. Toxic Individualism, let it rule. It's evolution, baby. Just a colossal disappointment across the board.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    edited April 2022
    For context this makes more sense. Keep in mind our public health policy is being enforced by a Trump-appointed federal judge, so throw that into the formula. Again, at the end of the day scientists aren't making the decisions. This a ripple effect because of "MA RIGHTS THIS IS 'MERKA"


    ....also ironic Kenney is commenting on this being driven by political issues...




  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    edited April 2022
    Some of us feel like we got our vaxxes & boosters and now we want to expose ourselves to the virus so our body continues to learn how to fight it, especially since it seems like they are never going to update these vaccines. We don't believe, by any means, that the pandemic is over, so please stop saying that. We sacrificed for so long, did our duty getting the shots, and this is our next step.
    I don't know, seems like common sense to me.   I find it kind of funny that a guy who cheered a guy getting cancer and wished a another guy to die here is trying to preach some moral high ground to the rest of us and/or society. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Wasting that Nola gem was a crime. 

    Oh and great showcase for the Phils’ offense on the national stage. They’re on ESPN again next Sunday against the Mets. “Can they flex baseball games?” wonders the viewer. 
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    Any of you assholes watch The Boys on Amazon? It’s fucking outrageous and awesome 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Any of you assholes watch The Boys on Amazon? It’s fucking outrageous and awesome 
    No but Winning Time and Barry are great on HBO (even if Winning Time appears to be greatly embellished)
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    Gotta catch up on Barry. I believe We Own This City just started this past weekend, very excited for this.

    Also, Kyle Schwarber should be managing over Girardi.