2022 EV Tour Merch

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  • ryanphishes
    ryanphishes Posts: 586
    edocon said:
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    Has this ever happened with other artists? I'm new to the signed AP world. 
    Most artists carefully package and ship items promptly. When there are delays (waiting on tubes, one-person operations, etc.) the artists are usually very communicative publicly about packing and shipping dates.  I would think an artist would be as particular as anyone about the quality of a print and care in packaging and shipping of prints. It seems disrespectful to the art and your customer to shoddily package a print in a small, 1" tube and then blame the damages on the shipping company. 

    Btw, the shipping label for my poster was printed on 3/15 and the package was delivered to UPS on 3/23. It is still in NJ as of today, shipping to CA. 
    Yours is still in NJ because she lied about them being picked up by UPS, in addition to packaging them poorly, and now blaming UPS and unhappy customers.

    Her lack of communication led to all of this IMO.
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  • edocon
    edocon Posts: 336
    Oh, and I found her twitter post about being paid $0 for the commission of the poster work appalling in response to persons requesting refunds. Obviously she charged people for the AP's she posted on her site; how much she was paid to create the original artwork has no bearing on the AP sales.
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    edocon said:
    Oh, and I found her twitter post about being paid $0 for the commission of the poster work appalling in response to persons requesting refunds. Obviously she charged people for the AP's she posted on her site; how much she was paid to create the original artwork has no bearing on the AP sales.
    It’s clear she’s unhinged.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,460
    100 Pacer said:
    edocon said:
    Oh, and I found her twitter post about being paid $0 for the commission of the poster work appalling in response to persons requesting refunds. Obviously she charged people for the AP's she posted on her site; how much she was paid to create the original artwork has no bearing on the AP sales.
    It’s clear she’s unhinged.
    They (whoever that is) should vet these folks better. She's fucking away any shot at making money on her art in the future with this behavior. 
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,460
    I'm having an old man moment here. This seems like the kind of behavior a young person would exhibit these days. Any sort of challenge and you completely fall apart and get overwhelmed to the point of inaction, then hide behind a Tweeter account defending yourself. 


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  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    As a fellow artist who sells small amounts of photographs through Etsy and such (maybe 10 a week) I will say she has the classic “artist who can’t run a business” traits. Her work is solid, but I’m betting she has never had a large order to deal with. She’s not prepared mentally or supply capacities to play in this league. The first 150 piece order I had produced a very small profit. I was way unprepared for how much time and money it would cost to deliver. I had to put other projects on hold and eat some costs I didn’t pass to the client. Lessons learned. Unfortunately she is not ready for this type of transaction.
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,460
    Great example of what I was just salty about! 

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GenX/comments/s4nbru/no_better_way_to_sum_up_the_generations/


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  • edocon
    edocon Posts: 336
    elvistheking44 said:
    As a fellow artist who sells small amounts of photographs through Etsy and such (maybe 10 a week) I will say she has the classic “artist who can’t run a business” traits. Her work is solid, but I’m betting she has never had a large order to deal with. She’s not prepared mentally or supply capacities to play in this league. The first 150 piece order I had produced a very small profit. I was way unprepared for how much time and money it would cost to deliver. I had to put other projects on hold and eat some costs I didn’t pass to the client. Lessons learned. Unfortunately she is not ready for this type of transaction.
    It's kinda sad to watch. Knowing what we know now we could have given her advice like @ryanphishes had thought to give. For a gig poster destined to sell out, she had all the time in the world to acquire proper tubes, craft paper, actually sign-and-number the prints, and package them in tubes before she listed them for sale. Printing shipping labels and having them picked up for delivery would have been a breeze. But judging by her initial lack of communication, followed by utterly poor (public) communication, she's missing some business skills in addition to being inexperienced in project planning/management.
     
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    This thread was quite the read. 
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  • huntersthompson
    huntersthompson Posts: 1,030
    JimmyV said:
    This thread was quite the read. 
    It has been....super compelling.  I can't help but think about what these posters will be worth on the secondary market....as long as they are unblemished, which sounds like it will be less than 50% of the posters...and, damn, if she actually remembered to sign and number one or two....?  With the back story, the value will be astronomical....

    The initial idea that the value would be increased by lack of damage started as a tongue in cheek entry, but now I have got myself thinking....
  • Jolleyblue
    Jolleyblue Posts: 4

  • Jolleyblue
    Jolleyblue Posts: 4
    Did anyone's order get canceled? 

  • ryanphishes
    ryanphishes Posts: 586
    Worst packaging ever.  It actually is a 1” tube.

    Each of these 3 tubes arrived this week with a 18x24 print.

    One of these things is not like the other.



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  • Astros5.7
    Astros5.7 Posts: 16
    ryanphishes said:
    Worst packaging ever.  It actually is a 1” tube.

    Each of these 3 tubes arrived this week with a 18x24 print.

    One of these things is not like the other.



    Lmao.....wait til you open it, then the real fun begins.
  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,619
    It’s almost impressive she could even cram it in there
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  • lmckenney24
    lmckenney24 Posts: 2,101
    Wow, just wow.
  • ryanphishes
    ryanphishes Posts: 586
    Nearly impossible to get out.

    Dinged and dented everywhere, clearly due to UPS, not at all her fault for cramming it into a tube with zero insulation or breathing room.



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  • edocon
    edocon Posts: 336
    drakeheuer14 said:
    It’s almost impressive she could even cram it in there
    You'd think after jamming in the first 5 or so she'd have rethought her 1" tube choice??
  • ryanphishes
    ryanphishes Posts: 586
    Now I’m wondering why she didn’t sign or number them.

    It took her almost a month to ship these, and she could not have put less effort into this whole situation, from the message about canceling to the crying about customers complaints.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,460
    Sorry all. That sucks. I hope she makes it right. 
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