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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    Not a lot on the list this year that interest me. LO2L just for collectors sake. Maybe the Pixies Coachella 2004 since Im passing on the new live boxset.
  • Attaway77
    Attaway77 Posts: 3,776
    I definitely want that Collective Soul, that's a great album and I like those guys. I have an original LO2L so that will be nice not to have to deal with that...
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    PJ, Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds & MMJ are on my list.
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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    PJ and the Jazz Dispensary for sure, maybe the Darlene Love release and that’s it. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,550
    AIC, PJ, Miles Davis, Dave Brubeck "Trio", Ray Charles. still looking through....
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Some interesting thoughts on RSD worth checking out:

    Record Store Day is harming, not helping, independent music shops like mine

    Rupert Morrison

    Supply chain chaos and a worldwide vinyl shortage means the annual event that once saved record shops from extinction has lost its way


    Even in the age of social distancing, Record Store Day survived during the pandemic. After the 2020 edition was cancelled – it was scheduled for what became the middle of the UK’s first lockdown – the organisers staged separate release “drops” later that year, and again in 2021. You may have seen eager shoppers queueing outside record shops of all sizes up and down the country, wearing face masks as well as the usual thick coats and scarves to brave the pre-opening hours chill; perhaps you saw an obligatory news puff piece about how “vinyl is back” as the David Bowie and Prince estates scraped together yet another previously unreleased artefact.

    This year, on 23 April, it’s a return to business as usual as record stores around the world celebrate the 15th annual Record Store Day (RSD) with help from Taylor Swift, its starriest ambassador yet (who’s releasing a seven-inch to mark the event). But what was once a shot in the arm for physical retail is now an albatross around the neck of the establishment it purports to help.

    I run an independent record shop that predates both RSD and the internet. In the early 2000s, when physical record shops were decimated thanks to the rise of illegal downloads, RSD pumped millions of pounds through tills and undoubtedly turned a new generation on to the world of physical music. RSD is a remarkable event and its early years should be remembered as the revolution they were.

    But 15 years is a long time in technology and retail. Peer-to-peer filesharing pre-empted the digital download and the streaming model. Plucky music blogs evolved into multimedia digital outlets. Even the most idiosyncratic physical record shops now reach a global audience via the internet. Record Store Day, meanwhile, hasn’t adapted to the modern realities of selling physical music.

    Critics have long derided the event’s penchant for novelty discs and lack of discerning curation. This year, RSD offers 411 new releases, a fact that should leave those in the physical music business seething. Thanks to Brexit and the pandemic, we simply can’t make enough records. There is an international shortage of the various components required in vinyl manufacture, as well as a backlog exacerbated by last year’s pop-heavy release schedule.

    The issue is not going away. Whereas vinyl would typically take 12 weeks to produce, we’re now looking at nine months for a short run of 12-inch vinyl. (Don’t even mention the shortage on coloured vinyl, the lifeblood of RSD.) New pressing plants opening in Middlesbrough and Gothenburg are cause for optimism, but even their added capacity pales compared with demand.

    And yet, these 411 records – among them, yep, four Bowie releases and one Prince – will be ready and awaiting sale on 23 April. When I first got a glimpse of the sheer scale of what was in production, I suggested on social media that the best thing for the whole record community would have been to take a year out. Inevitably, many people responded, “If you don’t like it, don’t take part.” But this is perhaps the greatest modern mistruth of RSD. Even shops that opt out altogether are suffering long term thanks to continued stock delays and shortages which are exacerbated by the RSD production schedule. The logistics of the celebration now affect every month of the year, riding roughshod over carefully planned campaigns.

    We have online customer pre-orders that were placed 12 months ago for albums that have been delayed so frequently that it feels futile to set a new hypothetical release date. The administrative ramifications are hugely consuming for shops and the economic impact for independent artists and labels is devastating. Instore tours – crucial for promotion and first-week sales – have been cancelled and rescheduled; artists are missing out on the chart positions they should expect; entire summer touring schedules are being scrapped because there is such uncertainty about when the physical product will materialise.

    The job of the record shop in its simplest terms is to sell records. We are part of a long established musical ecosystem and now, in no small part due to RSD, we are becoming ever more impeded in fulfilling our duties. Will there be shops to celebrate when the racks are threadbare and retail prices continue to rocket?

    I hope RSD can reconfigure itself as a genuine friend to record shops. The event needs to be postponed until these catastrophic production logjams are alleviated and the organisers must consult with shop owners about the best way to help them celebrate this unique culture in the future. It’s ironic that the other 364 days in the record shop calendar now play second fiddle to RSD.








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  • Of The Aggie
    Of The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,550
    I hope to be able to ge Collective Soul, The Cure and the LOTL, but I'm not holding my breath. It's harder and harder to get RSD things and I wish bands would just reissue this stuff regularly and make it available year-round. Most of RSD stuff is useless releases that like the article above says are taking pressing plant resources away from legitimate stuff.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,691
    on RSD
    Blur LP
    Frankie and the Witch Fingers LP
    Pinkpantheress LP(UK list)
    Taylor Swift 7"
    The Royal Tenenbaums LP


    PJ and Super Furry Animals from the June list.

  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    This could be an expensive one for me
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,691
    I read that article this morning and I agree. But IDK if taking 1 year off will alleviate much pressure. People are consuming records at double the rate they can produce them. We need more plants (IDK if PVC shortage is still an issue and it seems like lacquer wise, things are going well).  Also in theory, saying no to picture discs and junk releases seems like a good idea, but really, one persons junk is another's treasure. Maybe there are 2500 people out there that want a 2 LP set of TV theme songs and are happy to pay $45 for it. Every release is just as legitimate as any other.


  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,550
    brianlux said:
    Some interesting thoughts on RSD worth checking out:

    Record Store Day is harming, not helping, independent music shops like mine

    Rupert Morrison

    Supply chain chaos and a worldwide vinyl shortage means the annual event that once saved record shops from extinction has lost its way


    Even in the age of social distancing, Record Store Day survived during the pandemic. After the 2020 edition was cancelled – it was scheduled for what became the middle of the UK’s first lockdown – the organisers staged separate release “drops” later that year, and again in 2021. You may have seen eager shoppers queueing outside record shops of all sizes up and down the country, wearing face masks as well as the usual thick coats and scarves to brave the pre-opening hours chill; perhaps you saw an obligatory news puff piece about how “vinyl is back” as the David Bowie and Prince estates scraped together yet another previously unreleased artefact.

    This year, on 23 April, it’s a return to business as usual as record stores around the world celebrate the 15th annual Record Store Day (RSD) with help from Taylor Swift, its starriest ambassador yet (who’s releasing a seven-inch to mark the event). But what was once a shot in the arm for physical retail is now an albatross around the neck of the establishment it purports to help.

    I run an independent record shop that predates both RSD and the internet. In the early 2000s, when physical record shops were decimated thanks to the rise of illegal downloads, RSD pumped millions of pounds through tills and undoubtedly turned a new generation on to the world of physical music. RSD is a remarkable event and its early years should be remembered as the revolution they were.

    But 15 years is a long time in technology and retail. Peer-to-peer filesharing pre-empted the digital download and the streaming model. Plucky music blogs evolved into multimedia digital outlets. Even the most idiosyncratic physical record shops now reach a global audience via the internet. Record Store Day, meanwhile, hasn’t adapted to the modern realities of selling physical music.

    Critics have long derided the event’s penchant for novelty discs and lack of discerning curation. This year, RSD offers 411 new releases, a fact that should leave those in the physical music business seething. Thanks to Brexit and the pandemic, we simply can’t make enough records. There is an international shortage of the various components required in vinyl manufacture, as well as a backlog exacerbated by last year’s pop-heavy release schedule.

    The issue is not going away. Whereas vinyl would typically take 12 weeks to produce, we’re now looking at nine months for a short run of 12-inch vinyl. (Don’t even mention the shortage on coloured vinyl, the lifeblood of RSD.) New pressing plants opening in Middlesbrough and Gothenburg are cause for optimism, but even their added capacity pales compared with demand.

    And yet, these 411 records – among them, yep, four Bowie releases and one Prince – will be ready and awaiting sale on 23 April. When I first got a glimpse of the sheer scale of what was in production, I suggested on social media that the best thing for the whole record community would have been to take a year out. Inevitably, many people responded, “If you don’t like it, don’t take part.” But this is perhaps the greatest modern mistruth of RSD. Even shops that opt out altogether are suffering long term thanks to continued stock delays and shortages which are exacerbated by the RSD production schedule. The logistics of the celebration now affect every month of the year, riding roughshod over carefully planned campaigns.

    We have online customer pre-orders that were placed 12 months ago for albums that have been delayed so frequently that it feels futile to set a new hypothetical release date. The administrative ramifications are hugely consuming for shops and the economic impact for independent artists and labels is devastating. Instore tours – crucial for promotion and first-week sales – have been cancelled and rescheduled; artists are missing out on the chart positions they should expect; entire summer touring schedules are being scrapped because there is such uncertainty about when the physical product will materialise.

    The job of the record shop in its simplest terms is to sell records. We are part of a long established musical ecosystem and now, in no small part due to RSD, we are becoming ever more impeded in fulfilling our duties. Will there be shops to celebrate when the racks are threadbare and retail prices continue to rocket?

    I hope RSD can reconfigure itself as a genuine friend to record shops. The event needs to be postponed until these catastrophic production logjams are alleviated and the organisers must consult with shop owners about the best way to help them celebrate this unique culture in the future. It’s ironic that the other 364 days in the record shop calendar now play second fiddle to RSD.









    had a facebook post from a newer shop complaining about rsd and them not participating.

    heres the thing, that store is a strictly used record store or was at time of opening and my last visit
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,124
    MedozK said:
    This could be an expensive one for me
    Same. Right now I am interested in Blur, Dave Brubeck, Cranberries, Echo & the Bunnymen, Pearl Jam, and Pete Townshend. I am sure more will come up as well.

  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited February 2022
    I think that guy makes a silly argument.  RSD is fine.  It’s fun.  I know quite a few shop owners that love it.  RSD is not the main culprit for long lead times.  Vinyl was a hobby that’s become the norm.   The plants were fine for us three years ago and we definitely had no issues in the 90s.  What does delaying RSD really do when every indie band and every major artist is scrapping CD releases for vinyl?  help those other people out by two weeks?  Complain about the lack of plants not the marketing blitz that drives people to the hobby and to your shop.  

    It’s easier than ever for me to buy records.  In 1995 I had one indie shop to go to for vinyl and it was way out of the way.  Now I can browse for records at Walmart on my lunch break.  

    In a time when artists and stores have suffered for two years he should love the increase in demand. New releases are hitting shelves every week whether they took a long time or not.  

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    I hope to be able to ge Collective Soul, The Cure and the LOTL, but I'm not holding my breath. It's harder and harder to get RSD things and I wish bands would just reissue this stuff regularly and make it available year-round. Most of RSD stuff is useless releases that like the article above says are taking pressing plant resources away from legitimate stuff.
    Agreed, Aggie!
    I read that article this morning and I agree. But IDK if taking 1 year off will alleviate much pressure. People are consuming records at double the rate they can produce them. We need more plants (IDK if PVC shortage is still an issue and it seems like lacquer wise, things are going well).  Also in theory, saying no to picture discs and junk releases seems like a good idea, but really, one persons junk is another's treasure. Maybe there are 2500 people out there that want a 2 LP set of TV theme songs and are happy to pay $45 for it. Every release is just as legitimate as any other.


    Good point about more plants, Tim.  Also much needed is at least one lacquer production plant to plant to replace the one lost in the fire in Southern California.  I think that has got to be making an impact.

    I would also like to see a MUCH greater emphasis on producing analog vinyl LPs.  Way too many LPs produced today are not much more than large format CD's.  Digital LP's still often do sound better than CDs because they are generally less compressed, but they don't sound nearly as good as older all analog LPs.  And what percentage of the record buying population even has a clue as to what the hell all that means?  Not a high percentage, I would guess.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,691
    Yeah. That’s why the AAAs are gonna be left to AP and the like. Which, fine, I guess. It’s probably a losing battle. But those who care will make it and those who care will buy it. Most don’t seem to. 


    As an aside, I got that Time Out 45 press from AP today and it’s like, the perfect record. It’s like Dave is in the room with you. I don’t know if I’ve heard something as good as that. It’s bonkers great. 

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Yeah. That’s why the AAAs are gonna be left to AP and the like. Which, fine, I guess. It’s probably a losing battle. But those who care will make it and those who care will buy it. Most don’t seem to. 


    As an aside, I got that Time Out 45 press from AP today and it’s like, the perfect record. It’s like Dave is in the room with you. I don’t know if I’ve heard something as good as that. It’s bonkers great. 


    Nice nice nice!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,550
    brianlux said:
    Yeah. That’s why the AAAs are gonna be left to AP and the like. Which, fine, I guess. It’s probably a losing battle. But those who care will make it and those who care will buy it. Most don’t seem to. 


    As an aside, I got that Time Out 45 press from AP today and it’s like, the perfect record. It’s like Dave is in the room with you. I don’t know if I’ve heard something as good as that. It’s bonkers great. 


    Nice nice nice!

    61 mono repress gives me the same impression.
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    Yeah. That’s why the AAAs are gonna be left to AP and the like. Which, fine, I guess. It’s probably a losing battle. But those who care will make it and those who care will buy it. Most don’t seem to. 


    As an aside, I got that Time Out 45 press from AP today and it’s like, the perfect record. It’s like Dave is in the room with you. I don’t know if I’ve heard something as good as that. It’s bonkers great. 


    Nice nice nice!

    61 mono repress gives me the same impression.

    I'll bet it does! 
    I went to look at which one I've got and... ah oh... where's it go? 
    About a month ago, I had to pull all the LP's off my 4x4 Kallax shelving and re-secure that backing I had put on it.  There were two of us pulling and re-shelving and some things didn't go back in the right place.
    The search is on!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    edited February 2022
    I can see the guys argument but I dont believe having a year off would solve the problem. Quite sure RSD is the reason some stores survive, its a massive pay day for some places.

    I do think it needs an overhaul, more than just upping the number of drops.

    There's a lot of junk gets pressed. Too many releases and thats driven by the labels. Too many picture discs for sure. Limiting the number of releases for RSD would be a big start.

    Theres also too many variants of regular releases adding to the delays but everyone wants a piece of the action and for people to shop with them. Unfortunately theres too many labels to agree on a strategy to fix that problem. A bit of a runaway train, things have got out of hand and they cant really stop it. Big label money talks and they will get their way while the small labels will suffer.







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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    FR181798 said:
    I can see the guys argument but I dont believe having a year off would solve the problem. Quite sure RSD is the reason some stores survive, its a massive pay day for some places.

    I do think it needs an overhaul, more than just upping the number of drops.

    There's a lot of junk gets pressed. Too many releases and thats driven by the labels. Too many picture discs for sure. Limiting the number of releases for RSD would be a big start.

    Theres also too many variants of regular releases adding to the delays but everyone wants a piece of the action and for people to shop with them. Unfortunately theres too many labels to agree on a strategy to fix that problem. A bit of a runaway train, things have got out of hand and they cant really stop it. Big label money talks and they will get their way while the small labels will suffer.








    Yeah, I agree a year off is a bit over the top.  I wonder if he said that not because he thought it would really happen, but rather to emphasize his point. 
    I also agree there's too much junk pressed.  We don't have a regular record store in my town, but now and then I get down to Folsom and Sacramento and hit a few stores and they always have piles of stuff nobody bought nor likely will any time soon.  In a day and age where good records get put on the back burner so RSD can pump out a bunch a crap, that's not a good sign.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni