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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
  • DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I didn't know all that.  This is why people were pissed then.  I only saw the video.

    Minneapolis seems to be having policing problems...
  • DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I wonder how the cops got a key to his unit? If its from the apartment complex building manager or the realty office, they've got some 'splaining to do and better have deep pockets.
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  • mickeyrat
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    edited February 2022
    DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I didn't know all that.  This is why people were pissed then.  I only saw the video.

    Minneapolis seems to be having policing problems...

    yeah, the link I provided was an article.

    gonna guess it wasnt opened and read.
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  • DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I wonder how the cops got a key to his unit? If its from the apartment complex building manager or the realty office, they've got some 'splaining to do and better have deep pockets.
    I was curious to why they were sleeping w a loaded gun?
  • mickeyrat
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    DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I wonder how the cops got a key to his unit? If its from the apartment complex building manager or the realty office, they've got some 'splaining to do and better have deep pockets.

    for complying with an apparent legal(at the time) search warrant?
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  • DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I wonder how the cops got a key to his unit? If its from the apartment complex building manager or the realty office, they've got some 'splaining to do and better have deep pockets.
    I was curious to why they were sleeping w a loaded gun?
    Why does anyone sleep with a loaded gun?
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  • mickeyrat said:
    DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I wonder how the cops got a key to his unit? If its from the apartment complex building manager or the realty office, they've got some 'splaining to do and better have deep pockets.

    for complying with an apparent legal(at the time) search warrant?
    Was there a legal search warrant served to the building manager/real estate company? Or did they just flash their badges and say, "let us in?"
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  • DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I wonder how the cops got a key to his unit? If its from the apartment complex building manager or the realty office, they've got some 'splaining to do and better have deep pockets.
    I was curious to why they were sleeping w a loaded gun?
    Why does anyone sleep with a loaded gun?
    To protect themselves from Ze Germans?
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    This was an execution and the poor guy was holding a box cutter…and wtf were the 2 shotgun shots at the end for…
    He pulled the box cutter out to hold it like a gun. I wouldn’t call him a poor guy, it was suicide by cop.
    The cop who fired those last 2 shots was immediately fired. Don’t think you could charge him with murder or manslaughter , the guy already had 20 bullets in him.
  • This was an execution and the poor guy was holding a box cutter…and wtf were the 2 shotgun shots at the end for…
    What sucks about things like this is the guy may have wanted to be Death By Cops (DBC).  People want to go out in a trailblaze of gunfire.

    I don't even know if they have a statistic on that?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,368
    suicide by cop.
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  • mickeyrat said:
    suicide by cop.
    That's the term.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,368
    mickeyrat said:
    suicide by cop.
    That's the term.

    death by are very very different circumstances
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  • mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    suicide by cop.
    That's the term.

    death by are very very different circumstances
    Yes, I knew what it was but mentioned it wrong.

    Suicide By Cop.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    suicide by cop.
    That's the term.

    death by are very very different circumstances
    Yes, I knew what it was but mentioned it wrong.

    Suicide By Cop.
    Exactly what I thought. The only abuse would be those last 2 shots. And that cop was immediately fired.
  • mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    suicide by cop.
    That's the term.

    death by are very very different circumstances
    Yes, I knew what it was but mentioned it wrong.

    Suicide By Cop.
    Exactly what I thought. The only abuse would be those last 2 shots. And that cop was immediately fired.
    Abuse was how many cops were there actually.  There was like 25 cops there.  What the hell happened that they were all there w guns drawn?
  • DewieCox
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    What would stop them from putting a few on watch duty? Maybe help them tell the difference between a gun and a box knife. Need training/situational adjustments that can mentally slow these exchanges. 
  • DewieCox said:
    What would stop them from putting a few on watch duty? Maybe help them tell the difference between a gun and a box knife. Need training/situational adjustments that can mentally slow these exchanges. 
    You can train all you want for that but it happens so quick it would be too late to tell if it was a gun.

    I do question the person whom was shot though.  What did you think was going to happen?

    Cops all get a pass except the dummy who fired the last 2 shots.

    I am still bothered by the amount of cops present though.
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    I dunno, I think you give a couple of them binoculars and not have cops standing out in the wide open you can at least buy seconds which would be an eternity in this situation. 
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