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Made me curious. I know they get sued for malpractice but never heard of screwing up so bad that they get convicted. Doctors also seem to have a "do no wrong" clause.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
That is definitely a unique case. I have heard of Nurses doing the same in killing patients. That is flat out murder though. With all the cops coming up on charges, does a doctor when he screws up, get brought up on murder charges?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:She may set a precedent now. All cops aren't getting the immunity that they used to. Do I think she was a bad person, no. She made a grave error though.
Does a doctor suffer the same consequences if they screw up and kill someone? I never hear about a doctor going to trial for killing a patient. I know they have big insurances for screw ups.special case but here you go.....
unless its egregious. like drunk or high surgery, usually civil suit...
I see a time in the future where you aren't allowed to make a mistake. That will be good and bad...0 -
I don't see that happening in the medical field. You don't want people not going to medical school for fear of going to jail eventually.tempo_n_groove said:
Made me curious. I know they get sued for malpractice but never heard of screwing up so bad that they get convicted. Doctors also seem to have a "do no wrong" clause.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
That is definitely a unique case. I have heard of Nurses doing the same in killing patients. That is flat out murder though. With all the cops coming up on charges, does a doctor when he screws up, get brought up on murder charges?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:She may set a precedent now. All cops aren't getting the immunity that they used to. Do I think she was a bad person, no. She made a grave error though.
Does a doctor suffer the same consequences if they screw up and kill someone? I never hear about a doctor going to trial for killing a patient. I know they have big insurances for screw ups.special case but here you go.....
unless its egregious. like drunk or high surgery, usually civil suit...
I see a time in the future where you aren't allowed to make a mistake. That will be good and bad...Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Can’t this be applied to policing as well?HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't see that happening in the medical field. You don't want people not going to medical school for fear of going to jail eventually.tempo_n_groove said:
Made me curious. I know they get sued for malpractice but never heard of screwing up so bad that they get convicted. Doctors also seem to have a "do no wrong" clause.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
That is definitely a unique case. I have heard of Nurses doing the same in killing patients. That is flat out murder though. With all the cops coming up on charges, does a doctor when he screws up, get brought up on murder charges?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:She may set a precedent now. All cops aren't getting the immunity that they used to. Do I think she was a bad person, no. She made a grave error though.
Does a doctor suffer the same consequences if they screw up and kill someone? I never hear about a doctor going to trial for killing a patient. I know they have big insurances for screw ups.special case but here you go.....
unless its egregious. like drunk or high surgery, usually civil suit...
I see a time in the future where you aren't allowed to make a mistake. That will be good and bad...0 -
different fields, different considerations. when doctors start stabbing people with scalpels in the neck claiming they thought it would assist in the surgery they were performing, then maybe we can talk.nicknyr15 said:
Can’t this be applied to policing as well?HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't see that happening in the medical field. You don't want people not going to medical school for fear of going to jail eventually.tempo_n_groove said:
Made me curious. I know they get sued for malpractice but never heard of screwing up so bad that they get convicted. Doctors also seem to have a "do no wrong" clause.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
That is definitely a unique case. I have heard of Nurses doing the same in killing patients. That is flat out murder though. With all the cops coming up on charges, does a doctor when he screws up, get brought up on murder charges?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:She may set a precedent now. All cops aren't getting the immunity that they used to. Do I think she was a bad person, no. She made a grave error though.
Does a doctor suffer the same consequences if they screw up and kill someone? I never hear about a doctor going to trial for killing a patient. I know they have big insurances for screw ups.special case but here you go.....
unless its egregious. like drunk or high surgery, usually civil suit...
I see a time in the future where you aren't allowed to make a mistake. That will be good and bad...Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Lol. Ok.HughFreakingDillon said:
different fields, different considerations. when doctors start stabbing people with scalpels in the neck claiming they thought it would assist in the surgery they were performing, then maybe we can talk.nicknyr15 said:
Can’t this be applied to policing as well?HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't see that happening in the medical field. You don't want people not going to medical school for fear of going to jail eventually.tempo_n_groove said:
Made me curious. I know they get sued for malpractice but never heard of screwing up so bad that they get convicted. Doctors also seem to have a "do no wrong" clause.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
That is definitely a unique case. I have heard of Nurses doing the same in killing patients. That is flat out murder though. With all the cops coming up on charges, does a doctor when he screws up, get brought up on murder charges?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:She may set a precedent now. All cops aren't getting the immunity that they used to. Do I think she was a bad person, no. She made a grave error though.
Does a doctor suffer the same consequences if they screw up and kill someone? I never hear about a doctor going to trial for killing a patient. I know they have big insurances for screw ups.special case but here you go.....
unless its egregious. like drunk or high surgery, usually civil suit...
I see a time in the future where you aren't allowed to make a mistake. That will be good and bad...
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Like I mentioned above, they can be sued for making an improper judgment call, they call it Malpractice though.HughFreakingDillon said:
different fields, different considerations. when doctors start stabbing people with scalpels in the neck claiming they thought it would assist in the surgery they were performing, then maybe we can talk.nicknyr15 said:
Can’t this be applied to policing as well?HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't see that happening in the medical field. You don't want people not going to medical school for fear of going to jail eventually.tempo_n_groove said:
Made me curious. I know they get sued for malpractice but never heard of screwing up so bad that they get convicted. Doctors also seem to have a "do no wrong" clause.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
That is definitely a unique case. I have heard of Nurses doing the same in killing patients. That is flat out murder though. With all the cops coming up on charges, does a doctor when he screws up, get brought up on murder charges?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:She may set a precedent now. All cops aren't getting the immunity that they used to. Do I think she was a bad person, no. She made a grave error though.
Does a doctor suffer the same consequences if they screw up and kill someone? I never hear about a doctor going to trial for killing a patient. I know they have big insurances for screw ups.special case but here you go.....
unless its egregious. like drunk or high surgery, usually civil suit...
I see a time in the future where you aren't allowed to make a mistake. That will be good and bad...0 -
yeah, but those are rare and have to be egregious errors. I don't see it coming to the "can't make an error" point for doctors.tempo_n_groove said:
Like I mentioned above, they can be sued for making an improper judgment call, they call it Malpractice though.HughFreakingDillon said:
different fields, different considerations. when doctors start stabbing people with scalpels in the neck claiming they thought it would assist in the surgery they were performing, then maybe we can talk.nicknyr15 said:
Can’t this be applied to policing as well?HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't see that happening in the medical field. You don't want people not going to medical school for fear of going to jail eventually.tempo_n_groove said:
Made me curious. I know they get sued for malpractice but never heard of screwing up so bad that they get convicted. Doctors also seem to have a "do no wrong" clause.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
That is definitely a unique case. I have heard of Nurses doing the same in killing patients. That is flat out murder though. With all the cops coming up on charges, does a doctor when he screws up, get brought up on murder charges?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:She may set a precedent now. All cops aren't getting the immunity that they used to. Do I think she was a bad person, no. She made a grave error though.
Does a doctor suffer the same consequences if they screw up and kill someone? I never hear about a doctor going to trial for killing a patient. I know they have big insurances for screw ups.special case but here you go.....
unless its egregious. like drunk or high surgery, usually civil suit...
I see a time in the future where you aren't allowed to make a mistake. That will be good and bad...Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Wanted to ask a question. Would be a crazy world if it did go that way.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, but those are rare and have to be egregious errors. I don't see it coming to the "can't make an error" point for doctors.tempo_n_groove said:
Like I mentioned above, they can be sued for making an improper judgment call, they call it Malpractice though.HughFreakingDillon said:
different fields, different considerations. when doctors start stabbing people with scalpels in the neck claiming they thought it would assist in the surgery they were performing, then maybe we can talk.nicknyr15 said:
Can’t this be applied to policing as well?HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't see that happening in the medical field. You don't want people not going to medical school for fear of going to jail eventually.tempo_n_groove said:
Made me curious. I know they get sued for malpractice but never heard of screwing up so bad that they get convicted. Doctors also seem to have a "do no wrong" clause.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
That is definitely a unique case. I have heard of Nurses doing the same in killing patients. That is flat out murder though. With all the cops coming up on charges, does a doctor when he screws up, get brought up on murder charges?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:She may set a precedent now. All cops aren't getting the immunity that they used to. Do I think she was a bad person, no. She made a grave error though.
Does a doctor suffer the same consequences if they screw up and kill someone? I never hear about a doctor going to trial for killing a patient. I know they have big insurances for screw ups.special case but here you go.....
unless its egregious. like drunk or high surgery, usually civil suit...
I see a time in the future where you aren't allowed to make a mistake. That will be good and bad...0 -
yeah, it would.tempo_n_groove said:
Wanted to ask a question. Would be a crazy world if it did go that way.HughFreakingDillon said:
yeah, but those are rare and have to be egregious errors. I don't see it coming to the "can't make an error" point for doctors.tempo_n_groove said:
Like I mentioned above, they can be sued for making an improper judgment call, they call it Malpractice though.HughFreakingDillon said:
different fields, different considerations. when doctors start stabbing people with scalpels in the neck claiming they thought it would assist in the surgery they were performing, then maybe we can talk.nicknyr15 said:
Can’t this be applied to policing as well?HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't see that happening in the medical field. You don't want people not going to medical school for fear of going to jail eventually.tempo_n_groove said:
Made me curious. I know they get sued for malpractice but never heard of screwing up so bad that they get convicted. Doctors also seem to have a "do no wrong" clause.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
That is definitely a unique case. I have heard of Nurses doing the same in killing patients. That is flat out murder though. With all the cops coming up on charges, does a doctor when he screws up, get brought up on murder charges?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:She may set a precedent now. All cops aren't getting the immunity that they used to. Do I think she was a bad person, no. She made a grave error though.
Does a doctor suffer the same consequences if they screw up and kill someone? I never hear about a doctor going to trial for killing a patient. I know they have big insurances for screw ups.special case but here you go.....
unless its egregious. like drunk or high surgery, usually civil suit...
I see a time in the future where you aren't allowed to make a mistake. That will be good and bad...Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Not intent to murder, but intent to not be good enough at your job to avoid what almost every cop has called a virtually unmakeable mistake.tempo_n_groove said:
None of that equals intent though.DewieCox said:
“negligence” doesn’t completely absolve her of personal responsibility for her lack of preparedness and it seems like there would be a line where willingness to be underprepared turns into acceptance of the consequenceslindamarie73 said:
Never, perhaps a dictionary may help you understand the obvious.DewieCox said:
7 years isn’t enough. She ended a dude. When does negligence become intent?mace1229 said:I have mixed emotions with that. It was clearly an accident, but also her actions resulted in the death of someone else so there needed to be consequences. 7 years seems like a lot though.0 -
Doctors have been charged and convicted of manslaughter.0
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I doubt we'll be seeing any protests with signs saying #cardiacpatientsmatter though.DewieCox said:Doctors have been charged and convicted of manslaughter.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Oh because you think they don't? Check your privilege man.HughFreakingDillon said:
I doubt we'll be seeing any protests with signs saying #cardiacpatientsmatter though.DewieCox said:Doctors have been charged and convicted of manslaughter.0 -
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Oh because you think they don't? Check your privilege man.HughFreakingDillon said:
I doubt we'll be seeing any protests with signs saying #cardiacpatientsmatter though.DewieCox said:Doctors have been charged and convicted of manslaughter.
#savethepediatricsHugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
You were so close to getting canceled.HughFreakingDillon said:
#allpatientsmattermrussel1 said:
Oh because you think they don't? Check your privilege man.HughFreakingDillon said:
I doubt we'll be seeing any protests with signs saying #cardiacpatientsmatter though.DewieCox said:Doctors have been charged and convicted of manslaughter.
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Other than showing up unconscious at a hospital most seek out medical attention and accept the risk that a doctor may make a mistake or misdiagnose us…it sucks but we accept. When I’m getting pulled over by the cops there should be no risk to the average person…cops have a tough job, but they sign up for it. Firefighters have a tougher job, but they accept the risk by pulling people out of burning buildings…police departments need to do a better job hiring people…
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Too funny. I bet the standards, in some states, maybe the same, mind you, regarding training for “policing” versus “medical care or surgery or god help me please I just need assistance,” is based upon the victim/patient before me? Look the other way? Or show equality of outcomes?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I don’t get the argument of “they signed up for it” here. Doctors do have a tough job, but didn’t they sign up for that too?Meltdown99 said:Other than showing up unconscious at a hospital most seek out medical attention and accept the risk that a doctor may make a mistake or misdiagnose us…it sucks but we accept. When I’m getting pulled over by the cops there should be no risk to the average person…cops have a tough job, but they sign up for it. Firefighters have a tougher job, but they accept the risk by pulling people out of burning buildings…police departments need to do a better job hiring people…You don’t have to stick with the dr analogy. Someone using a fork lift at Home Depot kills someone because they forgot to clear the isle, or a mechanic kills someone because they forgot to set the brake and the car rolls off a block? They signed up to operate a fork lift and I don’t accept any risk walking into a Home Depot, so does he get 7 years too?0 -
Bad analogy. The forklift driver isn't dealing with life and death every day. A cop or Doctor literally is.mace1229 said:
I don’t get the argument of “they signed up for it” here. Doctors do have a tough job, but didn’t they sign up for that too?Meltdown99 said:Other than showing up unconscious at a hospital most seek out medical attention and accept the risk that a doctor may make a mistake or misdiagnose us…it sucks but we accept. When I’m getting pulled over by the cops there should be no risk to the average person…cops have a tough job, but they sign up for it. Firefighters have a tougher job, but they accept the risk by pulling people out of burning buildings…police departments need to do a better job hiring people…You don’t have to stick with the dr analogy. Someone using a fork lift at Home Depot kills someone because they forgot to clear the isle, or a mechanic kills someone because they forgot to set the brake and the car rolls off a block? They signed up to operate a fork lift and I don’t accept any risk walking into a Home Depot, so does he get 7 years too?
A doctor doesn't just sign up like say a firemen or cop can. They have to do years and years of school and training.0 -
Well, firemen and cops have training also. Not as extensive as a doctor obviously, but you don't just sign up and get handed a badge and gun.tempo_n_groove said:mace1229 said:
I don’t get the argument of “they signed up for it” here. Doctors do have a tough job, but didn’t they sign up for that too?Meltdown99 said:Other than showing up unconscious at a hospital most seek out medical attention and accept the risk that a doctor may make a mistake or misdiagnose us…it sucks but we accept. When I’m getting pulled over by the cops there should be no risk to the average person…cops have a tough job, but they sign up for it. Firefighters have a tougher job, but they accept the risk by pulling people out of burning buildings…police departments need to do a better job hiring people…You don’t have to stick with the dr analogy. Someone using a fork lift at Home Depot kills someone because they forgot to clear the isle, or a mechanic kills someone because they forgot to set the brake and the car rolls off a block? They signed up to operate a fork lift and I don’t accept any risk walking into a Home Depot, so does he get 7 years too?
A doctor doesn't just sign up like say a firemen or cop can. They have to do years and years of school and training.This weekend we rock Portland0
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