New Eddie Vedder Singles "Long Way" & "The Haves"

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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,368
    edited November 2021
    The haves has nothing on Sirens
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    Long Way definitely grew on me & I like it a lot now. When I first heard The Haves at Ohana, it didn't grab me. Still not getting my attention after a couple of listens. Still excited for this album, though.
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    Pap said:
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    Nice!
  • tino_11tino_11 Posts: 1,923
    Sirens 2.0.
    I dunno. Sirens is actually a great song that catches some heat, probably due to 2013 it was overplayed live. 🤷‍♂️ not sure the haves can be considered a great song
    It’s not because sirens was overplayed. It’s because it’s not good (just many peoples opinion). 
    Seriously, you may not like Sirens but it is a world away from The Haves. 

    I’ll just leave this here: 

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    I can feel every one of your senses’ 
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  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Australia Posts: 3,841
    Don’t dislike it, just not doing much for me either. 
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  • False_BeliefFalse_Belief Cardiff Posts: 743
    Enjoyed the first single but actively dislike The Haves in a way that I haven’t actively disliked an Eddie song since Future Days.   Just the antithesis of everything I enjoy about him and the band.   Ah well - can’t win ‘em all….

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  • EilianEilian Posts: 276
    tino_11 said:
    Sirens 2.0.
    I dunno. Sirens is actually a great song that catches some heat, probably due to 2013 it was overplayed live. 🤷‍♂️ not sure the haves can be considered a great song
    It’s not because sirens was overplayed. It’s because it’s not good (just many peoples opinion). 
    Seriously, you may not like Sirens but it is a world away from The Haves. 

    I’ll just leave this here: 

    ‘Like Siamese twins
    I can feel every one of your senses’ 
    I’m giggling because this lyric makes me physically wince when he sings it.
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,171
    nicknyr15 said:
    I want to like these songs. But after one listen, I have no desire to listen again. I don’t hate them at all. 
    Right it’s an odd feeling with EV material. What’s the deal? 

    By all means be creative stretch your wings and try new stuff. But this feels more like his “man on first” material he’s described.
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,171
    nicknyr15 said:
    I’m just happy these are solo songs and didn’t make it to a pj album. 
    This makes me think of the hundreds of Stone riffs EV has passed on… ugh.
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  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Australia Posts: 3,841
    Maybe by having his own solo LP we get less of these ‘types’ of songs on future PJ records. 
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  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,632
    Love both songs honestly. 

    I heard he was working with Watt a while back and this is kind of the vibe that I expected.  
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,525
    Sirens 2.0.
    Much, much worse. 
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,031
    edited November 2021
    tino_11 said:
    Sirens 2.0.
    I dunno. Sirens is actually a great song that catches some heat, probably due to 2013 it was overplayed live. 🤷‍♂️ not sure the haves can be considered a great song
    It’s not because sirens was overplayed. It’s because it’s not good (just many peoples opinion). 
    Seriously, you may not like Sirens but it is a world away from The Haves. 

    I’ll just leave this here: 

    ‘Like Siamese twins
    I can feel every one of your senses’ 
    Agreed. I don’t like Sirens but The Haves is literally one of the first things Ed had done that I really just don’t want to listen to. It’s a weird feeling. 

    Oh and the song he does on the new Elton John record. Just bad. Didn’t enjoy it at all with no desire to listen to it again. These are weird feelings for someone that has liked pretty much anything EV had ever been a part of. 
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    Looks like the £ and $ are at parity ....hmmmm
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    Music for Funkos 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    edited November 2021
    I don't mind The Haves. It's okay. I wouldn't be telling anyone they should listen to it or anything, but... it's not the worst, lol. It's definitely not as cheesy as Sirens or Future Days.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,147
    nicknyr15 said:
    I’m just happy these are solo songs and didn’t make it to a pj album. 
    This makes me think of the hundreds of Stone riffs EV has passed on… ugh.
    I don't think Ed passes on Stone's riffs.
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  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,381
    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't mind The Haves. It's okay. I wouldn't be telling anyone they should listen to it or anything, but... it's not the worst, lol. It's definitely not as cheesy as Sirens or Future Days.
    This.  I like The Haves.  Don’t love it, but it has nowhere near the cheese of Sirens (I Study Your Face ?!??).   🤪
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  • I dig Long Way. The Petty vibes are unmistakable and cool, and it's catchy enough to have gotten stuck in my head on a few different occasions already.

    But I'm just not digesting The Haves. Maybe it's the fact that he rhymes "above" with "above." I don't know. Like others have said, I find myself having no desire to listen to it again or even to wait out the full 5 minutes. 

    Hoping it's one misstep on an otherwise enjoyable record.
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    Random question, apols if it's been asked, but what is that guitar Eddie's holding? Look like some Fender Mustang (but not quite) bass?
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,171
    edited November 2021
    igotid88 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I’m just happy these are solo songs and didn’t make it to a pj album. 
    This makes me think of the hundreds of Stone riffs EV has passed on… ugh.
    I don't think Ed passes on Stone's riffs.

    “I write every song for Eddie, ultimately,” he says. ​“He’s my muse. I would love to write 50 songs a year with him, but it’s just not on the cards; it just doesn’t work like that for him. When he’s in a writing process, it’s different than it is for me. I can write all the time. The way Ed really operates, the way that he loves to get music, is for something that’s immediate for you coming in at a time when he’s ready to connect with it. He likes to be in the process with you. So, if I send him 30 ideas, it’s just too much information for him to manage; that’s just not how his brain works.” 

    The long and short of it, Stone says, is this: ​“I write too many songs for Pearl Jam” – his words uttered neither with sadness or remorse, but almost as a gleeful oops of an admission.


    I’ve written plenty of songs that he didn’t necessarily respond to and for him to go, ​‘That’s the one I want to do’? I couldn’t have been happier,” enthuses Stone.


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  • on2legs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't mind The Haves. It's okay. I wouldn't be telling anyone they should listen to it or anything, but... it's not the worst, lol. It's definitely not as cheesy as Sirens or Future Days.
    This.  I like The Haves.  Don’t love it, but it has nowhere near the cheese of Sirens (I Study Your Face ?!??).   🤪
    You think that's worse than "Like siamese twins I can feel every one of your senses" ?   I'd say The Haves is at least as cheesy as either Sirens or Future Days but at least The Haves was delegated to EV solo which is good.  
  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,381
    edited November 2021
    on2legs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't mind The Haves. It's okay. I wouldn't be telling anyone they should listen to it or anything, but... it's not the worst, lol. It's definitely not as cheesy as Sirens or Future Days.
    This.  I like The Haves.  Don’t love it, but it has nowhere near the cheese of Sirens (I Study Your Face ?!??).   🤪
    You think that's worse than "Like siamese twins I can feel every one of your senses" ?   I'd say The Haves is at least as cheesy as either Sirens or Future Days but at least The Haves was delegated to EV solo which is good.  
    Yes. Way worse when you combine it with the way he sings “I study your face” and the big 80s wanker guitar solo from Mike. It could be a Foreigner outtake if I didn’t know better. 
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  • EilianEilian Posts: 276
    on2legs said:
    on2legs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't mind The Haves. It's okay. I wouldn't be telling anyone they should listen to it or anything, but... it's not the worst, lol. It's definitely not as cheesy as Sirens or Future Days.
    This.  I like The Haves.  Don’t love it, but it has nowhere near the cheese of Sirens (I Study Your Face ?!??).   🤪
    You think that's worse than "Like siamese twins I can feel every one of your senses" ?   I'd say The Haves is at least as cheesy as either Sirens or Future Days but at least The Haves was delegated to EV solo which is good.  
    Yes. Way worse when you combine it with the way he sings “I study your face” and the big 80s wanker guitar solo from Mike. It could be a Foreigner outtake if I didn’t know better. 
    Haha - “80s wanker solo.”

    Funny though, innit? Because that solo sounds like one of his best of the last few records to me, on account of him actually having written it, and not just winging it.
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