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  • Posts: 6,499
    edited October 2021
    Gern Blansten said:
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    You are still carrying this on? You stated that he should have known it was a real gun because it wasn't plastic. I stated that was ridiculous because they use real guns all the time.

    You have now posted two articles that back up my position. They use real guns and it would NOT be unusual to pick up a real gun.
    ??  This was your exact quote:
      “Plastic? You think they use plastic guns? Maybe they will now but they obviously don't use plastic guns.”

    I showed that they do have plastic guns on set, so what am I missing?  I never said or claimed they don’t use real guns…Just the opposite, actually.  The reason I mentioned a plastic gun in the first place is to point out that Baldwin should have know what was in his hand was capable of causing harm, as apposed to a plastic prop.
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  • Posts: 42,057
    If I heard right on the news this morning, there wasn't supposed to be live ammo on the set at all.  Someone may have snuck a bullet in that gun.

    That would be intent.
  • Posts: 10,078
    tempo_n_groove said:
    If I heard right on the news this morning, there wasn't supposed to be live ammo on the set at all.  Someone may have snuck a bullet in that gun.

    That would be intent.
    There were several accounts of people taking target practice during down time though. There probably was a no live ammo policy, but it probably wasn’t enforced.
  • Posts: 43,338
    Meanwhile, happy Halloween ‘Murica.

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  • St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,721
    Meaningless but amusing tapes of America's #1 civil rights organization scrambling after Columbine.

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    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
  • Posts: 45,410
    CM189191 said:
    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
    The initial investigation indicates the man accidentally discharged his weapon while climbing into a tree stand.


    my take....
    The initial investigation indicates the man recklessly climbed the tree  while weapon was loaded with a round chambered and the safety off. The weapon discharged, striking the man in the leg.


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  • Posts: 43,338
    CM189191 said:
    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
    Does he continue to be able to legally own firearms, showing how “responsible” he can be with them?
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  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,824
    I'm going with CM's Darwinian theory.  Way too may idiots in America with guns.  Way way way too many.
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  • Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,687
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Does he continue to be able to legally own firearms, showing how “responsible” he can be with them?
    He gets a free upgrade for his nra membership 
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    mickeyrat said:
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    The initial investigation indicates the man accidentally discharged his weapon while climbing into a tree stand.


    my take....
    The initial investigation indicates the man recklessly climbed the tree  while weapon was loaded with a round chambered and the safety off. The weapon discharged, striking the man in the leg.


    BINGO! 
  • Posts: 6,499
    edited November 2021
    JeBurkhardt said:
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    BINGO! 
    Was it Alec Baldwin?  Seems like that is how he handles his firearms, so just checking.
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    PJPOWER said:
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    Was it Alec Baldwin?  Seems like that is how he handles his firearms, so just checking.
    Of course he doesn't get held to the standards of everyday people when it comes to handling firearms.
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    static111 said:
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    Of course he doesn't get held to the standards of everyday people when it comes to handling firearms.
    Oh yeah, I forget.  If you are a Baldwin, you can be reckless with a gun because you are just an idiot actor, not a “responsible” gun handler.
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    PJPOWER said:
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    Oh yeah, I forget.  If you are a Baldwin, you can be reckless with a gun because you are just an idiot actor, not a “responsible” gun handler.

    so wait. this hunter was handed his gun by someone in an authority role over him stating it was "cold" in a (loose) approximation of movie set protocol?
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    he was just acting like he was going to shoot an animal from tree stand?
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    edited November 2021
    mickeyrat said:
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    so wait. this hunter was handed his gun by someone in an authority role over him stating it was "cold" in a (loose) approximation of movie set protocol?
    Who knows, once it was in his hands, it was his responsibility not to point it at his leg and do a quick safety check, just like Baldwin.  At least he “just” shot himself and his carelessness didn’t take someone else’s life.
  • Posts: 10,078
    Since we’re taking about Alex again it made me think of this. I was watching part of the closing arguments on the Rittenhouse trial. The defense was going to use the gun as a prop in his speech, as he grabbed it he pointed to someone off camera and said “he checked it, it’s clear.”
    Immediately the judge stopped him, and asked when? Then before he could answer he said “have it checked again.” It was checked in front of everyone to see.

    To me that seems like how things should work. Not everyone can be expected to be an expert. But if you’re not and you plan to handle a gun, at least be present and witness it being checked by an expert and not just assume that it was.
  • None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    so when is parent of the year Baldwin getting charged?
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,721
    Rittenhouse is walking and Baldwin is probably going to be convicted (via plea bargain that gives him probation and no time).

    But that doesn't reflect which on I'd feel safer around.
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