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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Jim Harbaugh is the smartest guy in any room.
    Just ask him!

    (I looooooved that they blew that game.)

    Watched a bit early on but not when it got too crazy.
    Hate Michigan
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
    How bout them Dawgs!!!  Also left a PJ Stickman sticker under my seat in Jacksonville at the game.  (as I do with all of my stadium visits).  
    "I got memories, I got shit"
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mrussel1 said:
    1. Does anyone think Oklahoma is a playoff team?  They may make it, but they will get smoked by someone.  

    2. I think it's fascinating that Ok State was #8 but was the underdog by 7 points!  They didn't cover, but still.  Does that mean in Stillwater this is a pick 'em?

    3. How bad is Clemson and DJ.  Yikes. 
    Clemson has got to be the biggest disappointment. DJ isn’t looking good, but his receivers are dropping lots of passes too. May be a while before they recover from this season. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,801
    At some point their deal with the devil has to come due. 
    Clemson is no traditional power - they were a juggernaut over the last 5-10 years but before that only ACC or Clemson fans gave a shit about their teams.
    Pretty amazing what they have done there.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,346
    mrussel1 said:
    Jim Harbaugh is the smartest guy in any room.
    Just ask him!

    (I looooooved that they blew that game.)

    Watched a bit early on but not when it got too crazy.
    Hate Michigan
    +1 
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,346
    At some point their deal with the devil has to come due. 
    Clemson is no traditional power - they were a juggernaut over the last 5-10 years but before that only ACC or Clemson fans gave a shit about their teams.
    Pretty amazing what they have done there.
    Agreed - their fall from grace (if it does last more that a season) would have an interesting effect on CFB. As you stated, over the last 5+ seasons, it has largely remained Bama/Clemson as the 1-2 punch. The next tier seemed to be kind of Ohio State/Georgia/Oklahoma...followed by probably Notre Dame. 

    Currently seems like Georgia is set to become the new Clemson.  
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    college football playoff rankings are a joke. Alabama loses to a team that was 4 and 2 with a backup QB and they are still 2nd.  Utterly ridiculous.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    pjhawks said:
    college football playoff rankings are a joke. Alabama loses to a team that was 4 and 2 with a backup QB and they are still 2nd.  Utterly ridiculous.
    Straight up bet,  neutral field,  who do you put a $100 on to beat Alabama (other than Georgia)?
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    college football playoff rankings are a joke. Alabama loses to a team that was 4 and 2 with a backup QB and they are still 2nd.  Utterly ridiculous.
    Straight up bet,  neutral field,  who do you put a $100 on to beat Alabama (other than Georgia)?
    That’s not the point. Why play games if results don’t matter? So the loss for Alabama meant nothing. Maybe maybe you can argue they should be fourth but they sure as shit shouldn’t be ahead of Michigan state who just beat a top 10 team and are undefeated 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited November 2021
    pjhawks said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    college football playoff rankings are a joke. Alabama loses to a team that was 4 and 2 with a backup QB and they are still 2nd.  Utterly ridiculous.
    Straight up bet,  neutral field,  who do you put a $100 on to beat Alabama (other than Georgia)?
    That’s not the point. Why play games if results don’t matter? So the loss for Alabama meant nothing. Maybe maybe you can argue they should be fourth but they sure as shit shouldn’t be ahead of Michigan state who just beat a top 10 team and are undefeated 
    The committee is supposed to take the top 4. I don't like Bama but I think they are top 4. State has a good win but you can't ignore who they were last year and that their recruiting wasn't all that good.  I'm not sold on them. If they run the East then I'll be sold. 
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    college football playoff rankings are a joke. Alabama loses to a team that was 4 and 2 with a backup QB and they are still 2nd.  Utterly ridiculous.
    Straight up bet,  neutral field,  who do you put a $100 on to beat Alabama (other than Georgia)?
    That’s not the point. Why play games if results don’t matter? So the loss for Alabama meant nothing. Maybe maybe you can argue they should be fourth but they sure as shit shouldn’t be ahead of Michigan state who just beat a top 10 team and are undefeated 
    The committee is supposed to take the top 4. I don't like Bama but I think they are top 4. State has a good win but you can't ignore who they were last year and that their recruiting wasn't all that good.  I'm not sold on them. If they run the East then I'll be sold. 
    Now you are taking recruiting into it and last year.  Stop,  it should be about results this year not history.  Again Alabama’s loss has meant nothing.  Why even play the games if on field results don’t matter?  When Alabama loses to Georgia in the Sec title game I bet the argument will be that they lost to the best team so it doesn’t matter for that loss either.  Results should matter but they only do for certain teams
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    pjhawks said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    college football playoff rankings are a joke. Alabama loses to a team that was 4 and 2 with a backup QB and they are still 2nd.  Utterly ridiculous.
    Straight up bet,  neutral field,  who do you put a $100 on to beat Alabama (other than Georgia)?
    That’s not the point. Why play games if results don’t matter? So the loss for Alabama meant nothing. Maybe maybe you can argue they should be fourth but they sure as shit shouldn’t be ahead of Michigan state who just beat a top 10 team and are undefeated 
    The committee is supposed to take the top 4. I don't like Bama but I think they are top 4. State has a good win but you can't ignore who they were last year and that their recruiting wasn't all that good.  I'm not sold on them. If they run the East then I'll be sold. 
    Now you are taking recruiting into it and last year.  Stop,  it should be about results this year not history.  Again Alabama’s loss has meant nothing.  Why even play the games if on field results don’t matter?  When Alabama loses to Georgia in the Sec title game I bet the argument will be that they lost to the best team so it doesn’t matter for that loss either.  Results should matter but they only do for certain teams
    I do agree they matter less for certain teams.  Alabama is one.  One loss doesn't knock them out as they are excellent consistently.  I think it's going too far to say the games or results don't matter.  A second loss by Bama eliminates them.  

    Regarding State,  I don't believe in them yet. I can't pretend i don't know how these guys played last year. But if they win out, they're in. Can they lose one game? Probably not because they probably can't get to,  or win the Big 10 at this point.  If they lost a non conference or Big west game early in the year and ran the east,  I think they would get in.. just like Bama.

    And it sucks for Cincy but they will likely play one good team.  Not enough 
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    college football playoff rankings are a joke. Alabama loses to a team that was 4 and 2 with a backup QB and they are still 2nd.  Utterly ridiculous.
    Straight up bet,  neutral field,  who do you put a $100 on to beat Alabama (other than Georgia)?
    That’s not the point. Why play games if results don’t matter? So the loss for Alabama meant nothing. Maybe maybe you can argue they should be fourth but they sure as shit shouldn’t be ahead of Michigan state who just beat a top 10 team and are undefeated 
    The committee is supposed to take the top 4. I don't like Bama but I think they are top 4. State has a good win but you can't ignore who they were last year and that their recruiting wasn't all that good.  I'm not sold on them. If they run the East then I'll be sold. 
    Now you are taking recruiting into it and last year.  Stop,  it should be about results this year not history.  Again Alabama’s loss has meant nothing.  Why even play the games if on field results don’t matter?  When Alabama loses to Georgia in the Sec title game I bet the argument will be that they lost to the best team so it doesn’t matter for that loss either.  Results should matter but they only do for certain teams
    I do agree they matter less for certain teams.  Alabama is one.  One loss doesn't knock them out as they are excellent consistently.  I think it's going too far to say the games or results don't matter.  A second loss by Bama eliminates them.  

    Regarding State,  I don't believe in them yet. I can't pretend i don't know how these guys played last year. But if they win out, they're in. Can they lose one game? Probably not because they probably can't get to,  or win the Big 10 at this point.  If they lost a non conference or Big west game early in the year and ran the east,  I think they would get in.. just like Bama.

    And it sucks for Cincy but they will likely play one good team.  Not enough 
    Agree on Cincy. They haven’t been very impressive the last few weeks even with winning.  They need to be more dominate. I expect Michigan State to lose at least once but undefeated with a top 10 win is great so far. probably gonna be Ohio State in big 10 but if they lose again it’s gonna be wild on who else gets in.
  • Jumb0
    Jumb0 Posts: 910
    Rankings release are for tv ratings at this point and really mean nothing. It's going to work itself out...just not for Cincy.

    UGA and Bama will win out and meet in the SEC championship.
    Ohio State wins out.
    Oklahoma/Oregon win out.

    Bama beats UGA.

    Bama
    UGA
    Ohio State
    Oklahoma/Oregon
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,246
    oregon is nothing special.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • They should start every year off as a double elimination season.  Winner at the end is the National Champion.

    Wouldn't that be fun?
  • Jumb0
    Jumb0 Posts: 910
    There shouldn't be any preseason rankings. AP and Coach's polls should not be released until week 5-6
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Jumb0 said:
    There shouldn't be any preseason rankings. AP and Coach's polls should not be released until week 5-6
    Haha. No chance of that.  Rankings drive TV viewership. 
  • Jumb0
    Jumb0 Posts: 910
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    There shouldn't be any preseason rankings. AP and Coach's polls should not be released until week 5-6
    Haha. No chance of that.  Rankings drive TV viewership. 

    100%. See my earlier post. 
    Just saying what should happen not what will ever happen. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Jumb0 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jumb0 said:
    There shouldn't be any preseason rankings. AP and Coach's polls should not be released until week 5-6
    Haha. No chance of that.  Rankings drive TV viewership. 

    100%. See my earlier post. 
    Just saying what should happen not what will ever happen. 
    Got it