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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,540
    Now we're getting into the good stuff - we get see how much of a lapdog Schefter is, excellent.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    The stupid "Football Team," looking to distract from the investigation into them, are retiring Sean Taylor's number this weekend. This guy brings up a good point....


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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,913
    Unreal.  Snyder really is the worst.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,320
    They really give London some shit games, huh? :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,543
    Wobbie said:
    They really give London some shit games, huh? :lol:

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Congrats to Spielman.. Pride of Massillon, all time great Buckeye, and now all timer for the Lions. Plus he is just a first class human being, considering all he went through with his wife and his continuing to support breast cancer awareness.  Great video where the franchise surprised him. 


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    And first high school player ever on a box of Wheaties.  


  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,494
    Anybody watch Brady's 600TD ball get given away to a fan who basically through away a few hundred thousand dollars by giving back that football?

    I would hope that Brady and Bucs management takes care of that guy even if he is a damn doctor...

    Oh and Mahomes got paid and the rest of the team is going to suffer.  I said I wasn't ready to panic but after this week I will put out the distress flag.  They looked even shittier.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,494
    If you haven't read up on Arch Manning do so.  He is next in line of the Manning royalty of QB's.  Dude seems destined to become great and a very good head on his shoulders.
  • Jumb0
    Jumb0 Posts: 910
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anybody watch Brady's 600TD ball get given away to a fan who basically through away a few hundred thousand dollars by giving back that football?

    I would hope that Brady and Bucs management takes care of that guy even if he is a damn doctor...



    They gave him a $1000 gift card to the team store and a different game ball

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,494
    Jumb0 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anybody watch Brady's 600TD ball get given away to a fan who basically through away a few hundred thousand dollars by giving back that football?

    I would hope that Brady and Bucs management takes care of that guy even if he is a damn doctor...



    They gave him a $1000 gift card to the team store and a different game ball

    500k world record ball>another ball and $1000

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    That guy was in a tough spot. First off, it's not like a homerun ball where it was hit to him. Mike Evans stupidly gave it to him. Secondly, once the cameras were on him negotiating about the ball, if he refused to give it up, he'd become the subject of bullshit ridicule online. It's easy to say in hindsight that you'd endure that for 500K, but in the moment, with all eyes on him and a team official talking to him, I can see why he gave it up. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,494
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    That guy was in a tough spot. First off, it's not like a homerun ball where it was hit to him. Mike Evans stupidly gave it to him. Secondly, once the cameras were on him negotiating about the ball, if he refused to give it up, he'd become the subject of bullshit ridicule online. It's easy to say in hindsight that you'd endure that for 500K, but in the moment, with all eyes on him and a team official talking to him, I can see why he gave it up. 
    I would have left.  Seriously.

    Found a bank and a safe deposit box and put the ball in there.

    Come to me w what you think it's worth.  This is special and I am not giving back the kings treasure for a few magic beans...

    Dude should have gotten paid.
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,331
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    That guy was in a tough spot. First off, it's not like a homerun ball where it was hit to him. Mike Evans stupidly gave it to him. Secondly, once the cameras were on him negotiating about the ball, if he refused to give it up, he'd become the subject of bullshit ridicule online. It's easy to say in hindsight that you'd endure that for 500K, but in the moment, with all eyes on him and a team official talking to him, I can see why he gave it up. 
    Yep, you are either a selfish d***** for keeping the ball or an idiot for giving it up. He couldn't win in that situation.
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anybody watch Brady's 600TD ball get given away to a fan who basically through away a few hundred thousand dollars by giving back that football?

    I would hope that Brady and Bucs management takes care of that guy even if he is a damn doctor...

    Oh and Mahomes got paid and the rest of the team is going to suffer.  I said I wasn't ready to panic but after this week I will put out the distress flag.  They looked even shittier.
    Mahomes getting paid isn't going to make the team suffer.  It's making bad moves like trading/signing for Frank Clark ($25.8M cap hit), signing Anthony Hitchens to be a 3-down linebacker ($10.6M cap hit) and extending Chris Jones (4 years, $80M+) then moving him out of his most effective spot on the field from DT to DE.  There are bad investments that are sinking their cap number and leaving too many weaknesses all over the field.  You can't be wrong on that many high-paid players. 

    I will say this.  Mahomes has lost his poise.  It's one thing to press to do what you can to win, but he looks to have no trust whatsoever in his teammates and that's a big problem.  You have to be able to focus on your job and not try to score 28 points on every play.  That attitude will permeate (and did yesterday) and cause the rest of the team to try to do too much.  The great QBs play within themselves, even when things get shitty.  It's important to focus on the next snap and nothing else as the QB.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,494
    Glorified KC said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anybody watch Brady's 600TD ball get given away to a fan who basically through away a few hundred thousand dollars by giving back that football?

    I would hope that Brady and Bucs management takes care of that guy even if he is a damn doctor...

    Oh and Mahomes got paid and the rest of the team is going to suffer.  I said I wasn't ready to panic but after this week I will put out the distress flag.  They looked even shittier.
    Mahomes getting paid isn't going to make the team suffer.  It's making bad moves like trading/signing for Frank Clark ($25.8M cap hit), signing Anthony Hitchens to be a 3-down linebacker ($10.6M cap hit) and extending Chris Jones (4 years, $80M+) then moving him out of his most effective spot on the field from DT to DE.  There are bad investments that are sinking their cap number and leaving too many weaknesses all over the field.  You can't be wrong on that many high-paid players. 

    I will say this.  Mahomes has lost his poise.  It's one thing to press to do what you can to win, but he looks to have no trust whatsoever in his teammates and that's a big problem.  You have to be able to focus on your job and not try to score 28 points on every play.  That attitude will permeate (and did yesterday) and cause the rest of the team to try to do too much.  The great QBs play within themselves, even when things get shitty.  It's important to focus on the next snap and nothing else as the QB.
    When the bulk of the cap goes to him yes the rest of the team suffers.  When he was cheap they had a hell of a defense and an O line.  Those days are gone now.

    Yes Mahomes does not trust his players.  it is a shame because he is a generational player and hope he bounces back like the greats do.
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    So what should the Chiefs have done?  Not signed him?  I would rather have Patrick Mahomes at the rate he went for, than go through the first 37 years of my life watching the DeBergs, washed up Montanas, Alex Smiths, all over again.  That is the going rate for a franchise QB.  It's the cost of doing business.  If you spend your money more wisely and start being more frugal with your draft capital, you can take on a contract like Pat's and contend for championships.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,540
    No team with a franchise QB - one that has won a Super Bowl and an MVP - doesn't sign and/or extend and/or take up the largest portion of their salaries. How is this even a conversation? The team doesn't suffer. The team benefits from having a top-3/5 QB, which is rightly paid as such as it's the most important position in the game. They already benefitted by getting a "discount" by winning a SB, and going to an additional SB, while on his rookie deal. Seriously, what are we even talking about here?
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    No team with a franchise QB - one that has won a Super Bowl and an MVP - doesn't sign and/or extend and/or take up the largest portion of their salaries. How is this even a conversation? The team doesn't suffer. The team benefits from having a top-3/5 QB, which is rightly paid as such as it's the most important position in the game. They already benefitted by getting a "discount" by winning a SB, and going to an additional SB, while on his rookie deal. Seriously, what are we even talking about here?
    That's why I get so up in arms when I hear someone say "they're going to pay for their QB taking up cap space." I would rather have that in a perennial pro bowl QB and potential Hall of Famer, than a running back (Derrick Henry), pass rusher (T.J. Watt) or safety (Jamal Adams). 

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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    Besides it's not Mahomes who is the drain on the cap this season ($7.4M), it's Frank Clark!  THATS the drain on the Chiefs cap.  $26M for a mediocre edge player and has two weapons charges within 4 months.  If anything, they got a bargain with Mahomes.  He is by far the most marketable and celebrated athlete in the history of Kansas City sports.  You don't let that walk.
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