2021 Tour Rumors - Let’s Go!!!!!!!!!!

TH113769 said:

jdopj said:

nicknyr15 said:

Maybe im stupid but isn’t everyone on these crews required to be vaccinated? And are we still testing the entire band and crew daily? And if a member of the crew tests positive why is the whole show cancelled? Who are we protecting? Especially if the shows requires a vaccination to enter? Im just not getting it honestly. This can’t be the way forward. 

I couldn’t agree more.

I suppose I'm stupid as well.  Everyone on the crew / band is vaccinated (lets assume).  The daily Covid tests can pick up an extremely small amount of virus where the infection is asymptomatic (see NY Yankees), yet the show gets cancelled?  If you are vaccinated you have a better chance of being struck by lighting then dying from Covid (or even being hospitalized), so who are you protecting?  Covid is going to be around forever, so lets learn how to deal with it. With all the "protections" being put in place for vaxed people we might as well not let people drive cars, as that is honestly more of a danger to society than Covid is to a Vaxed person.  

And yes, tons of shows are going on and I'm not aware of any major sporting event being cancelled because of Covid since vaccines.    

Sporting events are adapting. No fans in a few. 100% vax for Raiders i think. 

Pixies are the latest to bow out of their upcoming fall tour 

Should we start posting the tours that keep rolling with no issues just to balance it out?

PJNB said:

pbultimate said:

TH113769 said:

jdopj said:

nicknyr15 said:

Maybe im stupid but isn’t everyone on these crews required to be vaccinated? And are we still testing the entire band and crew daily? And if a member of the crew tests positive why is the whole show cancelled? Who are we protecting? Especially if the shows requires a vaccination to enter? Im just not getting it honestly. This can’t be the way forward. 

I couldn’t agree more.

I suppose I'm stupid as well.  Everyone on the crew / band is vaccinated (lets assume).  The daily Covid tests can pick up an extremely small amount of virus where the infection is asymptomatic (see NY Yankees), yet the show gets cancelled?  If you are vaccinated you have a better chance of being struck by lighting then dying from Covid (or even being hospitalized), so who are you protecting?  Covid is going to be around forever, so lets learn how to deal with it. With all the "protections" being put in place for vaxed people we might as well not let people drive cars, as that is honestly more of a danger to society than Covid is to a Vaxed person.  

And yes, tons of shows are going on and I'm not aware of any major sporting event being cancelled because of Covid since vaccines.    

Sporting events are adapting. No fans in a few. 100% vax for Raiders i think. 

Adapting just like concerts but not cancelled. Adapting is fine. The uncertainty if your concert is going to happen because someone on the "team" has covid is not fine imo.

 How many team members does a band have anyway? Honest question. Is it everyone from security to the road crew to the light crew or is it just the top 10 or so needed to run the show? If it is everyone that is even slightly involved we are royally screwed going further. 

Agreed.  I think the Foo Fighters LA Forum show was postponed because of a crew member testing positive, which is ridiculous.  Unless it's a band member, postponing or canceling a show seems like an overreaction, IMO.

nicknyr15 said:

ComeToTX said:

Should we start posting the tours that keep rolling with no issues just to balance it out?

Sure but I think when it comes to a band like PJ, i consider them more on the very cautious side. 

They maybe overly cautious but I will say one thing here with no inside connection or knowledge of any of the things they intend to put on or cancel. 

If they feel like they can not safely put on these three weekend festivals this fall there is absolutely no chance winter/spring 2022 reschedules happen where they are penciled in. No chance in hell you jump from sorry outdoor shows are not safe to ok time for indoors instead that quickly especially the months they have planned and the known timeline of when the biggest wave hits. 

I believe they are going to make every effort they can to have these shows happen with the rules they have in place. They will prove outdoor vax shows can happen safely for them as other bands have already done and then move on to the arena scene again next year. 

I just went to The Black Crowes last nite at Shoreline Amphitheater in Mountain View,Ca. It was my 5th show post pandemic. Blue Oyster Cult was 1st show back in Paso Robles,Ca at the fair (7-24). Joan Jett & The Blackhearts in San Francisco,Ca at park (8-1). YnT in Sacramento,Ca at park (8-14). Guns n Roses in Los Angeles,Ca at Banc Stadium(8-19). None of these shows required proof of vax or test. I’m going to my 1st indoor show this Wednesday in San Jose,Ca to see Guns n’ Roses again. Hope they make it vax only for indoor shows and not accept tests. Let’s keep live music going again. Get ur fukin shots people!! 😷

NJ has one of the best rates for fewest confirmed cases per 1000,000 population and CA isn't too far behind. Does anyone think Pearl Jam may not have an option to cancel without heavy fines for pulling out due to insurance? Especially since they just added an extra Ohana weekend about a month ago. I would imagine it may be written into the insurance contract somehow they may only be able to cancel if NJ and CA hit a certain number of confirmed cases per 100,0000 population. What are everyone thoughts? Anyone have insider knowledge?
Does anyone know when they need to start building stages for SHN and Ohana? This could be a good indicator if either event occurs.

Disclaimer: I have tickets to SHN and both Ohana Weekends so this is what I am hoping
I'm holding off on airfare until it gets closer. 

PJNB said:

Senlick said:

NJ has one of the best rates for fewest confirmed cases per 1000,000 population and CA isn't too far behind. Does anyone think Pearl Jam may not have an option to cancel without heavy fines for pulling out due to insurance? Especially since they just added an extra Ohana weekend about a month ago. I would imagine it may be written into the insurance contract somehow they may only be able to cancel if NJ and CA hit a certain number of confirmed cases per 100,0000 population. What are everyone thoughts? Anyone have insider knowledge?
Does anyone know when they need to start building stages for SHN and Ohana? This could be a good indicator if either event occurs.

Disclaimer: I have tickets to SHN and both Ohana Weekends so this is what I am hoping
I'm holding off on airfare until it gets closer. 

Being Danny's and Ed's festivals I would say they can do whatever they want without worry. I also think if their was an insurance clause and they felt like it they would just eat whatever the fee was. 

That said nothing is changing drastically case wise in the next couple of weeks either way so if they have not cancelled yet I really think we are good to go. 

I sure hope you are right and both festivals are a go!

given2fly23 said:

Man, I'm glad the band didn't listen to those of us (including me) who wanted the arena shows rescheduled for this fall.  They were right, as usual.

I was hoping for those rescheduled shows to happen in late Winter early Spring.