Cleveland Indians to drop "Indians" from team name after 105 years

Meltdown99 said:

Parksy said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Parksy said:

mickeyrat said:

doesn't good sportsmanship kinda demand your best at all times? or should demand it?

These words are fascinating.  And it's interesting because it goes to show that even in the world of sports where you would figure so many things should be cut and dry....  there is a fine gray area where human emotions play a strong role especially in team sports and especially in contact team sports. 

The dream of good sportsmanship is rooted in all players being good sportsmen.  Which is of course non-existent.  In hockey, if you run up the score because you're 'being good sportsmen' sure 10 players will appreciate and respect the good sportsmanship being shown by not letting up.  8 however will see things through  a different lens and interpret the effort as an act of disrespect and respond by bludgeoning an opposing player at the first opportunity.    

These numbers are uneducated estimates and would tip one way or another usually depending on a coach. 

Good sportsmanship is sometimes sacrificed for safety and survival lol. 

That coach usually sends in the goons to start a damn fight.  Actually, do they do that anymore?

No they do not do that anymore…lol.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ364V_vWN4

A few guys tugging and wrestling is not a brawl…lmfao.  

This is a brawl.  It’s not a brawl until the goalies duke out…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKVZYWuA_0E

Meltdown99 said:

mrussel1 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Parksy said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Parksy said:

mickeyrat said:

doesn't good sportsmanship kinda demand your best at all times? or should demand it?

These words are fascinating.  And it's interesting because it goes to show that even in the world of sports where you would figure so many things should be cut and dry....  there is a fine gray area where human emotions play a strong role especially in team sports and especially in contact team sports. 

The dream of good sportsmanship is rooted in all players being good sportsmen.  Which is of course non-existent.  In hockey, if you run up the score because you're 'being good sportsmen' sure 10 players will appreciate and respect the good sportsmanship being shown by not letting up.  8 however will see things through  a different lens and interpret the effort as an act of disrespect and respond by bludgeoning an opposing player at the first opportunity.    

These numbers are uneducated estimates and would tip one way or another usually depending on a coach. 

Good sportsmanship is sometimes sacrificed for safety and survival lol. 

That coach usually sends in the goons to start a damn fight.  Actually, do they do that anymore?

No they do not do that anymore…lol.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ364V_vWN4

A few guys tugging and wrestling is not a brawl…lmfao.  

This is a brawl.  It’s not a brawl until the goalies duke out…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKVZYWuA_0E

Oh right,  this is when the Russian 5 decided that America was a better place to live than Russia.  Boy were they wrong,  eh? That's why you always root for Russia over the US.

What’s that got to do with my post…you sound pathetic…your are very insecure.  The difference between you and me is I can separate politics from a countries citizens…

Or maybe you are a jilted lover…

and a very typical indoctrinated American.

Quite honestly why would I even really root for 1 or the other…I could care less which of you wins.  Unless your talking hockey…I always root for Canada 🇨🇦 v Russian final…that’s because we have a deep history with Russian hockey.

The Russian 5 came for the money.  But I don’t really care either way.  

They would have played in Canada if a Canadian team held their rights…

Should I call you a waambulance?

Meltdown99 said:

I went and watched a you video on the US flag and anthem…I am so wrong….USA USA USA 🇺🇸 sign me up fo your next war…lmfao.

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

doesn't good sportsmanship kinda demand your best at all times? or should demand it?

Football teams take a knee at the goal line all the time.  Or don't kick a fg late.  It's pretty common, especially in college when the disparity can be significant. 

Of course there's the old, probably false tale of when OSU smoked Michigan in 68 I think, 50-15.  Woody was asked why he went for two late in the game, and he said "because I couldn't go for three".  Probably not true though. Still funny.

I was actually going to comment that baseball isn't football, so I don't think the same rationale applies. while it's unlikely that a team down 11-3 isn't likely going to win the game, it's still way more probable than if a football team is up 60-20. I've never heard of this unwritten rule about baseball. that's weird to me. it's not unheard of to see high scoring single innings. imagine you're up 11-3, decide not to swing on the 4th pitch, take the walk, and the other team scores 9 in the last inning to win. how dumb would that be?

Well you may not think the analogy applies, but it's a fact that certain actions are not looked upon favorably in the pros.  Stealing and swinging on 3-0 during a blowout are two examples.  Could they have lost after being up 11-3 in the 8th?  Sure.  But the risk is remote, at best.