Cleveland Indians to drop "Indians" from team name after 105 years

brianlux said:

Poncier said:

Cleveland Steamers is still the best option.

Some great logo options:

Very cool- those are great, especially the first two.

Parksy said:

mickeyrat said:

doesn't good sportsmanship kinda demand your best at all times? or should demand it?

These words are fascinating.  And it's interesting because it goes to show that even in the world of sports where you would figure so many things should be cut and dry....  there is a fine gray area where human emotions play a strong role especially in team sports and especially in contact team sports. 

The dream of good sportsmanship is rooted in all players being good sportsmen.  Which is of course non-existent.  In hockey, if you run up the score because you're 'being good sportsmen' sure 10 players will appreciate and respect the good sportsmanship being shown by not letting up.  8 however will see things through  a different lens and interpret the effort as an act of disrespect and respond by bludgeoning an opposing player at the first opportunity.    

These numbers are uneducated estimates and would tip one way or another usually depending on a coach. 

Good sportsmanship is sometimes sacrificed for safety and survival lol. 

dankind said:

Parksy said:

mickeyrat said:

doesn't good sportsmanship kinda demand your best at all times? or should demand it?

These words are fascinating.  And it's interesting because it goes to show that even in the world of sports where you would figure so many things should be cut and dry....  there is a fine gray area where human emotions play a strong role especially in team sports and especially in contact team sports. 

The dream of good sportsmanship is rooted in all players being good sportsmen.  Which is of course non-existent.  In hockey, if you run up the score because you're 'being good sportsmen' sure 10 players will appreciate and respect the good sportsmanship being shown by not letting up.  8 however will see things through  a different lens and interpret the effort as an act of disrespect and respond by bludgeoning an opposing player at the first opportunity.    

These numbers are uneducated estimates and would tip one way or another usually depending on a coach. 

Good sportsmanship is sometimes sacrificed for safety and survival lol. 

In this team, the losing team should not have skipped leg day. It's fucking embarrassing!

dankind said:

Parksy said:

mickeyrat said:

doesn't good sportsmanship kinda demand your best at all times? or should demand it?

These words are fascinating.  And it's interesting because it goes to show that even in the world of sports where you would figure so many things should be cut and dry....  there is a fine gray area where human emotions play a strong role especially in team sports and especially in contact team sports. 

The dream of good sportsmanship is rooted in all players being good sportsmen.  Which is of course non-existent.  In hockey, if you run up the score because you're 'being good sportsmen' sure 10 players will appreciate and respect the good sportsmanship being shown by not letting up.  8 however will see things through  a different lens and interpret the effort as an act of disrespect and respond by bludgeoning an opposing player at the first opportunity.    

These numbers are uneducated estimates and would tip one way or another usually depending on a coach. 

Good sportsmanship is sometimes sacrificed for safety and survival lol. 

In this team, the losing team should not have skipped leg day. It's fucking embarrassing!

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

doesn't good sportsmanship kinda demand your best at all times? or should demand it?

Football teams take a knee at the goal line all the time.  Or don't kick a fg late.  It's pretty common, especially in college when the disparity can be significant. 

Of course there's the old, probably false tale of when OSU smoked Michigan in 68 I think, 50-15.  Woody was asked why he went for two late in the game, and he said "because I couldn't go for three".  Probably not true though. Still funny.

I was actually going to comment that baseball isn't football, so I don't think the same rationale applies. while it's unlikely that a team down 11-3 isn't likely going to win the game, it's still way more probable than if a football team is up 60-20. I've never heard of this unwritten rule about baseball. that's weird to me. it's not unheard of to see high scoring single innings. imagine you're up 11-3, decide not to swing on the 4th pitch, take the walk, and the other team scores 9 in the last inning to win. how dumb would that be?

tempo_n_groove said:

Parksy said:

mickeyrat said:

doesn't good sportsmanship kinda demand your best at all times? or should demand it?

These words are fascinating.  And it's interesting because it goes to show that even in the world of sports where you would figure so many things should be cut and dry....  there is a fine gray area where human emotions play a strong role especially in team sports and especially in contact team sports. 

The dream of good sportsmanship is rooted in all players being good sportsmen.  Which is of course non-existent.  In hockey, if you run up the score because you're 'being good sportsmen' sure 10 players will appreciate and respect the good sportsmanship being shown by not letting up.  8 however will see things through  a different lens and interpret the effort as an act of disrespect and respond by bludgeoning an opposing player at the first opportunity.    

These numbers are uneducated estimates and would tip one way or another usually depending on a coach. 

Good sportsmanship is sometimes sacrificed for safety and survival lol. 

That coach usually sends in the goons to start a damn fight.  Actually, do they do that anymore?

Parksy said:

mrussel1 said:

The post Tom Wilson fight... hate that fucking guy.

I'm going to go very out of my way to watch the first Rangers vs Caps game with Reaves in the lineup.