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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,502
    and I really should do a bit of research before entering a record store.....
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,502
    I wonder if we should create a general bad pressing/reissue thread? maybe help some us avoid them?
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited July 2021
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    When it comes to jazz, I dig all the more progressive acts that Blue Note, etc. are cashing in on lately, but, to me, nothing, and I mean goddamn nothing, beats Dixieland. 

    It’s a trip, it’s got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it. 

    my entry was really Brubeck. That laid backish loungy feel.Took me a minute to come to Miles(50s and 60s) and other artists of that era style/mindset....

    havent delved too much in big band but have a couple compilations....

    these are more brass oriented.

    tried Wes Montgomery, not sure I follow yet...
    I don't like orchestra jazz.  Just can't get into it.  Even my MOFI Porgy and Bess gets little play. 

    I respect the hell out of good big band jazz outfits- Ellington, Basie- for sure.  But like you, it's just not my thing, with one major exception- Sun Ra and company.   But that's a whole other thing!

    mickeyrat:
    What Wes Montgomery have you tried?  His career was really two different thing- the later stuff where he covered a lot of pop tunes, and the early stuff that was more classical jazz.  His later stuff is mellow and nice and all, but I'd say his earlier work is much better.  If you get a chance, maybe check out some of his Riverside stuff like SO Much Guitar! (Ron Carter is on that one!) and The Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,502
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    When it comes to jazz, I dig all the more progressive acts that Blue Note, etc. are cashing in on lately, but, to me, nothing, and I mean goddamn nothing, beats Dixieland. 

    It’s a trip, it’s got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it. 

    my entry was really Brubeck. That laid backish loungy feel.Took me a minute to come to Miles(50s and 60s) and other artists of that era style/mindset....

    havent delved too much in big band but have a couple compilations....

    these are more brass oriented.

    tried Wes Montgomery, not sure I follow yet...
    I don't like orchestra jazz.  Just can't get into it.  Even my MOFI Porgy and Bess gets little play. 

    I respect the hell out of good big band jazz outfits- Ellington, Basie- for sure.  But like you, it's just not my thing, with one major exception- Sun Ra and company.   But that's a whole other thing!

    mickeyrat:
    What Wes Montgomery have you tried?  His career was really two different thing- the later stuff where he covered a lot of pop tunes, and the early stuff that was more classical jazz.  His later stuff is mellow and nice and all, but I'd say his earlier work is much better.  If you get a chance, maybe check out some of his Riverside stuff like SO Much Guitar! (Ron Carter is on that one!) and The Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery.


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    When it comes to jazz, I dig all the more progressive acts that Blue Note, etc. are cashing in on lately, but, to me, nothing, and I mean goddamn nothing, beats Dixieland. 

    It’s a trip, it’s got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it. 

    my entry was really Brubeck. That laid backish loungy feel.Took me a minute to come to Miles(50s and 60s) and other artists of that era style/mindset....

    havent delved too much in big band but have a couple compilations....

    these are more brass oriented.

    tried Wes Montgomery, not sure I follow yet...
    I don't like orchestra jazz.  Just can't get into it.  Even my MOFI Porgy and Bess gets little play. 

    I respect the hell out of good big band jazz outfits- Ellington, Basie- for sure.  But like you, it's just not my thing, with one major exception- Sun Ra and company.   But that's a whole other thing!

    mickeyrat:
    What Wes Montgomery have you tried?  His career was really two different thing- the later stuff where he covered a lot of pop tunes, and the early stuff that was more classical jazz.  His later stuff is mellow and nice and all, but I'd say his earlier work is much better.  If you get a chance, maybe check out some of his Riverside stuff like SO Much Guitar! (Ron Carter is on that one!) and The Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery.



    Ooh!  That looks good!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,747
    dankind said:
    When it comes to jazz, I dig all the more progressive acts that Blue Note, etc. are cashing in on lately, but, to me, nothing, and I mean goddamn nothing, beats Dixieland. 

    It’s a trip, it’s got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it. 
    Preservation Jazz Hall Band. For sure! Happy feel good stuff that will continue forever.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,447
    If you like modern jazz fusion look up Modeski Martin and Wood.  They also play with John Schoefield and sometimes Logic. 

    For the record I can't stand it.  They are truly impressive magicians but it's not my cup of tea when you drum off the beat...

    Saw them twice. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Loujoe said:
    dankind said:
    When it comes to jazz, I dig all the more progressive acts that Blue Note, etc. are cashing in on lately, but, to me, nothing, and I mean goddamn nothing, beats Dixieland. 

    It’s a trip, it’s got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it. 
    Preservation Jazz Hall Band. For sure! Happy feel good stuff that will continue forever.
    Oh man,  I love them.  Wasn't super familiar until they opened for DMB at a show in Charlottesville a few years ago.  It was great.  Then they came back out and played a20 minute jam during DMBs main set.  Really impressive.  I'm going to see them in New Orleans in a few months. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,447
    mrussel1 said:
    Loujoe said:
    dankind said:
    When it comes to jazz, I dig all the more progressive acts that Blue Note, etc. are cashing in on lately, but, to me, nothing, and I mean goddamn nothing, beats Dixieland. 

    It’s a trip, it’s got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it. 
    Preservation Jazz Hall Band. For sure! Happy feel good stuff that will continue forever.
    Oh man,  I love them.  Wasn't super familiar until they opened for DMB at a show in Charlottesville a few years ago.  It was great.  Then they came back out and played a20 minute jam during DMBs main set.  Really impressive.  I'm going to see them in New Orleans in a few months. 
    I have awesome video of Preservation Jazz hall band and Arcade Fire from a few years ago.  AF and the band walk through the crowd playing Wake up.  

    The second time seeing them I knew when the show was over what they were going to do.  I missed it the first time I saw them do it a few years earlier so I was ready this time.

    It was so amazing to see them playing dancing and having a fun time with it.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,502
    at this point its cd only or flac but I do recommend this one....


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited July 2021
    Loujoe said:
    dankind said:
    When it comes to jazz, I dig all the more progressive acts that Blue Note, etc. are cashing in on lately, but, to me, nothing, and I mean goddamn nothing, beats Dixieland. 

    It’s a trip, it’s got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it. 
    Preservation Jazz Hall Band. For sure! Happy feel good stuff that will continue forever.

    I've never been a big fan of Dixieland but several years ago my father invite me to go with him to see the Preservation Hall Jazz Band.  I was really surprised how much I enjoyed seeing those guys play!  And the venue added to the whole affair- they played under a tent with saw dust on the ground.  That was a good time!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    When it comes to jazz, I dig all the more progressive acts that Blue Note, etc. are cashing in on lately, but, to me, nothing, and I mean goddamn nothing, beats Dixieland. 

    It’s a trip, it’s got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it. 

    my entry was really Brubeck. That laid backish loungy feel.Took me a minute to come to Miles(50s and 60s) and other artists of that era style/mindset....

    havent delved too much in big band but have a couple compilations....

    these are more brass oriented.

    tried Wes Montgomery, not sure I follow yet...
    I don't like orchestra jazz.  Just can't get into it.  Even my MOFI Porgy and Bess gets little play. 

    I respect the hell out of good big band jazz outfits- Ellington, Basie- for sure.  But like you, it's just not my thing, with one major exception- Sun Ra and company.   But that's a whole other thing! 
    I’ve been enjoying this since it arrived. Some folks on discogs have complained about the paper sleeves and finger prints on the new wax but I had none of those issues. Really good pressing

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    When it comes to jazz, I dig all the more progressive acts that Blue Note, etc. are cashing in on lately, but, to me, nothing, and I mean goddamn nothing, beats Dixieland. 

    It’s a trip, it’s got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it. 

    my entry was really Brubeck. That laid backish loungy feel.Took me a minute to come to Miles(50s and 60s) and other artists of that era style/mindset....

    havent delved too much in big band but have a couple compilations....

    these are more brass oriented.

    tried Wes Montgomery, not sure I follow yet...
    I don't like orchestra jazz.  Just can't get into it.  Even my MOFI Porgy and Bess gets little play. 

    I respect the hell out of good big band jazz outfits- Ellington, Basie- for sure.  But like you, it's just not my thing, with one major exception- Sun Ra and company.   But that's a whole other thing! 
    I’ve been enjoying this since it arrived. Some folks on discogs have complained about the paper sleeves and finger prints on the new wax but I had none of those issues. Really good pressing


    Nice!  I might have to watch for that one.  I really like the three Sun Ra I have on Yard Art/ Strut- Abstract Dreams, Discipline 27-II, and In the Orbit of Ra.  Great sounding pressings!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    When it comes to jazz, I dig all the more progressive acts that Blue Note, etc. are cashing in on lately, but, to me, nothing, and I mean goddamn nothing, beats Dixieland. 

    It’s a trip, it’s got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it. 

    my entry was really Brubeck. That laid backish loungy feel.Took me a minute to come to Miles(50s and 60s) and other artists of that era style/mindset....

    havent delved too much in big band but have a couple compilations....

    these are more brass oriented.

    tried Wes Montgomery, not sure I follow yet...
    I don't like orchestra jazz.  Just can't get into it.  Even my MOFI Porgy and Bess gets little play. 

    I respect the hell out of good big band jazz outfits- Ellington, Basie- for sure.  But like you, it's just not my thing, with one major exception- Sun Ra and company.   But that's a whole other thing! 
    I’ve been enjoying this since it arrived. Some folks on discogs have complained about the paper sleeves and finger prints on the new wax but I had none of those issues. Really good pressing


    Nice!  I might have to watch for that one.  I really like the three Sun Ra I have on Yard Art/ Strut- Abstract Dreams, Discipline 27-II, and In the Orbit of Ra.  Great sounding pressings!
    I’ve got Sleeping Beauty and Singles Volume 2 on my Wantlist from Strut/Art Yard. You would love this boxset. It has the original Philly Jazz commercial pressing and a 1978 alternate pressing which is the version only sold at the shows if I’m not mistaken. 


  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    When it comes to jazz, I dig all the more progressive acts that Blue Note, etc. are cashing in on lately, but, to me, nothing, and I mean goddamn nothing, beats Dixieland. 

    It’s a trip, it’s got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it. 

    my entry was really Brubeck. That laid backish loungy feel.Took me a minute to come to Miles(50s and 60s) and other artists of that era style/mindset....

    havent delved too much in big band but have a couple compilations....

    these are more brass oriented.

    tried Wes Montgomery, not sure I follow yet...
    I don't like orchestra jazz.  Just can't get into it.  Even my MOFI Porgy and Bess gets little play. 

    I respect the hell out of good big band jazz outfits- Ellington, Basie- for sure.  But like you, it's just not my thing, with one major exception- Sun Ra and company.   But that's a whole other thing! 
    I’ve been enjoying this since it arrived. Some folks on discogs have complained about the paper sleeves and finger prints on the new wax but I had none of those issues. Really good pressing


    Nice!  I might have to watch for that one.  I really like the three Sun Ra I have on Yard Art/ Strut- Abstract Dreams, Discipline 27-II, and In the Orbit of Ra.  Great sounding pressings!
    I’ve got Sleeping Beauty and Singles Volume 2 on my Wantlist from Strut/Art Yard. You would love this boxset. It has the original Philly Jazz commercial pressing and a 1978 alternate pressing which is the version only sold at the shows if I’m not mistaken. 



    I'll keep that one in mind, for sure, thanks!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Here's another one of those less-often listened to jazz album I have that I played today:
    Song X album cover

    I will confess to the fact that I had actually thought of moving this one on.  But when I played it today, besides some others here, the last cut, "Long Time No See", easily convinced me to keep this one.  Just following the last few quick notes of that last song, my reaction was a totally involuntary brief burst of laughter.  I find that only happens when something musical is startlingly brilliant.  And, oh, that it is!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited August 2021
    Continuing my diving back into Ornette Coleman, I just listened to all four side of this 1965 concert.  Want to fry some brain cells whilst expanding said brain?  Try this one on some time.  Whew!  I'm done in!
    In Europe Volume 1 Vinyl LP Album album coverIn Europe Volume 2 Vinyl LP Album album cover

    (Also released on other labels as The Great London Concert and An Evening With Ornette Coleman.)





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    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,502
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    mickeyrat said:

    Excellent article, thanks M!
    I notice the name Buddy Bolden comes in to play there.  I read something about him recently in the Ornette Coleman biography I'm reading that ties in nicely:


    "There are four artists whose music and presence were major turning points in the course of jazz history: Buddy Bolden, Louis Armstrong, Charlie Parker, and Ornette Coleman. Bolden, the legendary first player of jazz may be only a legend: his playing career ended years before the first jazz recordings were made, we we know of him only through his contemporaries' memories and Bunk Johnson's imitations of a Bolden performance, three to four decades after the event. We know, however, that Armstrong's late 1920's masterpieces virtually defined the word jazz for all time, separating this young and fragile music from the American popular musics that surrounded it- music that had the potential to wholly absorb it, in the way ragtime was absorbed. Nearly two decades later, in the decline of the Swing Era that Armstrong had inspired, Parker climaxed a generation's harmonic and structural discoveries with a matching genius, all as elements of a lyricism whose purity and exaltation are almost unrivaled in the art's history. Three years after Parker's death, and slightly over a dozen years since he had led his first recording session, Ornette Coleman emerged on record, with a musical principle- "the pattern for the tune will be forgotten, and the tune itself will be the pattern"- to overturn the very foundations of jazz for its entire previous existence."

    From Ornette Coleman, A Harmolodic Life, by author and former editor of Down Beat magazine, John Litweiler.


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni