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  • Posts: 30,876
    How is being a peaceful tourist breaking the law?
    I don't know man.  The door was barricaded, there were cops on the other side.  Someone broke the window so why wouldn't you go in? How could anyone know that the plain clothes officer who is pointing a gun at you might do you harm?  No one could have predicted that.  
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    mrussel1 said:
    I don't know man.  The door was barricaded, there were cops on the other side.  Someone broke the window so why wouldn't you go in? How could anyone know that the plain clothes officer who is pointing a gun at you might do you harm?  No one could have predicted that.  
    Lindsey Graham wanted to know why MORE cops didn't shoot.  

    he also said this....at 4:20 on 1-6



    and this today




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  • New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    edited July 2021
    pjhawks said:
    It may put a secret service agent in harm's way.  Supposedly the shot was from Pence's security detail I believe.  The way Trump's followers blame Pence for not overturning the election should we put his detail into harm's way?  No good comes from releasing the name so a bunch of zealots can harass or worse the officer.
    I didn't realize it was secret service, I thought it was Capitol police.  I can now see why you wouldn't want to release their name.  
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    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Posts: 12,907
    mcgruff10 said:
    I didn't realize it was secret service, I thought it was Capitol police.  I can now see why you wouldn't want to release their name.  
    Yea it's never been officially acknowledged either way but I've seen stories that said in the Intelligence community it is widely believed it was Pence's security detail and that Pence was very close to the location they were breaking through the door/window.  That could also be a reason Trump wants it public, to make Pence look bad or to get back at Pence.
  • Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,129
    I had originally heard that he was secret service, part of Pence's detail.  Then it seems like he has been referred to as police but I'm pretty sure he wasn't wearing a uniform.
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  • Posts: 31,523
    Is he lactating?
    Tough to imagine a picture looking worse.  Damn. 

    Should go straight to this weirdo. 


    Holy damn he’s dripping from the nipples 🤣🤣🤣 yeah what a specimen 
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  • Posts: 41,952
    Seems like more brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy. Just brilliant conservative political strategy. Just brilliant. Maybe they'd like to visit Afghanistan and see how the Taliban run things?

    Opinion: Why are White evangelicals embracing an anti-democratic movement? Because they’re panicking.

    White Christians have been holding their numbers in terms of their share of the U.S. population, but not for the reasons one might expect. As the Public Religion Research Institute reported in its annual survey released last week: “The slight increase in white Christians between 2018 and 2020 was driven primarily by an uptick in the proportion of white mainline (non-evangelical) Protestants and a stabilization in the proportion of white Catholics.” Most striking, and most significant for our politics, "[s]ince 2006, white evangelical Protestants have experienced the most precipitous drop in affiliation, shrinking from 23% of Americans in 2006 to 14% in 2020. That proportion has generally held steady since 2017 (15% in 2017, 2018, and 2019).”

    I asked Robert P. Jones, chief executive of PRRI and author of “White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity,” if the decline in evangelical affiliation was related to the increasingly political nature of churches belonging to the denomination. “In a word, yes,” he said. “It’s clear that White evangelical Protestants have been losing ground among young people. As they have shrunk over the last decade, their media age has risen from 53 to 56, compared to a median age of 47 in the country overall.”

    It is not hard to figure out why they are losing young people and shrinking as a result. “The positions that White evangelical churches have become known for as they have become more politicized — opposition to same-sex marriage, opposition to abortion, a denial of climate change, anti-immigrant sentiment, anti-Muslim sentiment — are all strongly out of step with the values of younger Americans,” Jones observed. “And White evangelicals’ unequivocal embrace of [former president Donald] Trump also has them at odds with younger Americans. While White evangelical Protestants voted 84 percent for Trump in 2020, only 35 percent of Americans under the age of 30 did the same, according to Pew’s validated voter study.”

    In short, as White evangelical churches turn into MAGA political clubs, many who otherwise may have found a spiritual home with them have fled because they are alienated — if not horrified — by the politicization of their faith and the abandoning of values such as inclusion and empathy. The price of politicizing religion is therefore bad not only for our politics (by heightening polarization and converting policy disputes into existential crises), but also for religious communities that chase away potential adherents.

    The disgraced former president’s defeat did not sever the ties between the MAGA political movement and churches. To the contrary, Jones said, “the rise of QAnon is a troubling example of how a Trump-supporting movement can continue even when Trump has been removed from center stage to the wings.” He added, “PRRI recently found that about one quarter of White evangelical Protestants and nearly three 3 in 10 Republicans believe in the core tenets of QAnon, including the belief that ‘true American patriots may have to resort to violence to save our country.’ ”

    The decline in White evangelicals’ numbers has sown desperation and increasingly anti-democratic political sentiments. “Notably, the declining population shares are most acute among the Republican Party’s most stalwart supporters, White evangelical Protestants, who have declined steadily from 23 percent of the population in 2006 to 14.5 in 2020,” Jones explained. “With 84 percent of them voting for Trump, there are few new voters to be gained.” Instead of trying to reach out to new voters, Republicans choose to “drive down the votes of the growing number of Americans who are not White and Christian.” Hence, their “big lie” that the election is stolen and their ensuing crusade to suppress voting.

    The sense of panic among White evangelical Christians also fuels the long-standing animosity toward racial justice that is prevalent in their communities. Jones is frank about the history of White evangelical churches, which defended slavery, fanned the myth of the Lost Cause and resisted the civil rights movement:

    White evangelical Protestants have, from their inception, been strongly invested in a version of American history that is literally whitewashed. Even when this history has clearly involved atrocities and betrayals of indigenous peoples and the enslavement of millions of Africans, white Christians have defended a story of their own purity and innocence, where they are always heroes bravely answering the call to ‘settle’ America as their own God-given promised land.

    Just as they erected thousands of Confederate statutes during post-Reconstruction to reassert White dominance, they once more seek to distort history in service of white supremacy. Their current mission to rid schools of critical race theory (CRT), which is not actually taught in public schools, echoes a similar effort to mis-educate children about slavery. Jones noted, “Well into the 20th century, they donated history books with Confederate sympathies by the hundreds to schools and libraries, sponsored essay contests based on these slanted sources, and even developed a ‘[United Daughters of the Confederacy] Catechism,’ designed for children to memorize questions and answers reflecting the Confederate version of the causes of the Civil War.”

    It should therefore not be surprising to see them attempt to distort U.S. history so as to remove the taint of racism they themselves have often advanced. In their anti-CRT hysteria, the explicit aim is often to avoid making Whites feel uncomfortable or to shield children from any negative aspects of history. “Claims to [White] innocence are at root an attempt to protect power — that is, white supremacy — by preventing an honest reading of our history,” Jones told me. “As White Christians are declining, this myth of a White Christian America is tottering, like so many monuments in the last year. The battles around CRT are really fights to prop up what has always been a biased and inaccurate version of the country’s history — a lie really.”

    Our politics have fallen victim to the primal scream of once-dominant White evangelicals. Having failed to capture the hearts, minds and souls of a majority of Americans, these communities are turning against democracy. They prefer an authoritarian theocracy to a multiracial society in which they are a distinct minority. And that, candidly, is a threat to our democracy and to the notion of equal justice under the law.

    Opinion | Why are White evangelicals embracing an anti-democratic movement? Because they’re panicking. - The Washington Post

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  • USA Posts: 11,059
    Jake Tapper just said the shooter was a Lieutenant at the Capitol Police. 

    Trizzy should really STFU. 
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  • Posts: 49,590
    ikiT said:
    Jake Tapper just said the shooter was a Lieutenant at the Capitol Police. 

    Trizzy should really STFU. 
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    Trump Organization removes indicted top finance officer Allen Weisselberg from leadership roles at dozens of subsidiaries

    AllenWeisselberg chief financial officer of the Trump Organization center leaves criminal court in New York on July 1
    Allen Weisselberg, chief financial officer of the Trump Organization, center, leaves criminal court in New York on July 1. (David Dee Delgado/Bloomberg News)
     
    July 12, 2021|Updated today at 10:22 p.m. EDT

    The Trump Organization has removed indicted chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg from his leadership roles at more than 40 subsidiary companies, according to corporate filings in the United States and Scotland.

    The changes were made Thursday and Friday, a week after a grand jury in Manhattan indicted Weisselberg on 15 felony counts, including grand larceny and tax fraud. Weisselberg was accused by New York prosecutors of helping run a 15-year scheme to evade income taxes by concealing executives’ salaries — including more than $1.7 million of his own income — from tax authorities. Two Trump corporate entities were indicted alongside Weisselberg.

    On Thursday, the Trump Organization removed Weisselberg as a director of the company that runs its golf course in Aberdeen, Scotland, according to British corporate records.

    The Post’s David Fahrenthold explains what we know about the charges against the Trump Organization and its CFO, Allen Weisselberg. (The Washington Post)

    The next day, the company filed paperwork in Florida to remove Weisselberg as a director at 40 different subsidiaries registered in the state, according to an online database of Florida records.

    Those subsidiaries included a holding company that owns many Trump businesses, a corporate entity that handles payroll for many Trump employees, and even a Trump project in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., that went bust more than a decade ago.

    Previously, Weisselberg had shared the leadership of these companies with one of former president Donald Trump’s adult sons or, in the case of the Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla., with Trump himself. Now, records show, the Trump family members are left in charge.

    The Florida filings were first reported by the Wall Street Journal.

    The removal of Weisselberg’s name from these corporate filings could avoid questions from regulators, lenders or vendors by leaving out the name of an indicted executive.

    But it may not change much in the companies’ operations. On paper, the Trump Organization is a web of interconnected entities, each with its own set of officers. But in practice, the subsidiaries have all been run by the same small group of executives at Trump Tower in New York, including Trump, his adult sons and Weisselberg — with little regard to who holds formal offices in what subsidiary.

    A person familiar with the company who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss its internal decisionmaking told The Washington Post: “Allen Weisselberg’s at the company. He’s got a job. He’s going to remain at the company.”

    The Trump Organization did not respond to questions Monday about the changes in Weisselberg’s roles.

    An attorney for Weisselberg, Mary Mulligan, declined to comment.

    Weisselberg, 73, has worked for Trump’s company since the 1970s, and in recent years has become its most powerful executive outside the Trump family. When Trump entered the White House in 2017, he left the company’s day-to-day leadership in the hands of his sons, Eric and Donald Trump Jr., and Weisselberg.

    Prosecutors in New York have charged Weisselberg with helping orchestrate a scheme that concealed some of the income of top Trump executives — including his own income.

    Prosecutors said some executive salary would be paid in noncash benefits, such as free apartments, cars or tuition help. Then, prosecutors said, Weisselberg and others hid that noncash income from taxing authorities and thus avoided paying payroll and income taxes on it.

    Weisselberg himself evaded more than $900,000 in taxes, prosecutors alleged.

    Trump has not been charged in the investigation, led by Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. (D) and New York Attorney General Letitia James (D). Vance and James have said the investigation is continuing.

    Prosecutors hoped Weisselberg would “flip” and seek to lower his own legal risk by agreeing to testify against Trump, a person familiar with the investigation had previously said. But Weisselberg pleaded not guilty, and his lawyers said he intended to fight the charges.


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  • Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,129
    Cancel culture....disgusting

    Interesting though how tRump was defending him and now the dude is being erased.  Not much CONfidence there.

    Weisselberg will start singing.  He's too old to deal with this shit for years in court. It's the tip of the iceberg.  We haven't even gotten into the sales of real estate to launder money that has to be coming out at some point.
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  • Posts: 41,952
    Cancel culture....disgusting

    Interesting though how tRump was defending him and now the dude is being erased.  Not much CONfidence there.

    Weisselberg will start singing.  He's too old to deal with this shit for years in court. It's the tip of the iceberg.  We haven't even gotten into the sales of real estate to launder money that has to be coming out at some point.
    My guess is that Weisselberg was removed so as to appear to be addressing the situation so that lenders won't/can't call their/there/they're loans due. Can't have an indicted CFO touching other people's money.

    As for flipping, I'm not so sure. What's the current downside? He knows this will drag on forever with the amount of documents his defense will want to review. If and when he sees the inside of a courtroom, and is found guilty, POOTWH will take care of his wife and kids going forward and he serves 2 years in Fort Dix washing dishes and mopping floors. Small price to pay. More likely, he dies awaiting trial. In his mid 80s.

    The money laundering for putin on the ritz's oligarchs is where its at and why Weisselberg won't sing. A little radiation with your tea and coffee? He knows the score and the deal he made. He's all in.
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  • Posts: 30,876
    My guess is that Weisselberg was removed so as to appear to be addressing the situation so that lenders won't/can't call their/there/they're loans due. Can't have an indicted CFO touching other people's money.

    As for flipping, I'm not so sure. What's the current downside? He knows this will drag on forever with the amount of documents his defense will want to review. If and when he sees the inside of a courtroom, and is found guilty, POOTWH will take care of his wife and kids going forward and he serves 2 years in Fort Dix washing dishes and mopping floors. Small price to pay. More likely, he dies awaiting trial. In his mid 80s.

    The money laundering for putin on the ritz's oligarchs is where its at and why Weisselberg won't sing. A little radiation with your tea and coffee? He knows the score and the deal he made. He's all in.
    Yeah I think your probably write about this won.  Theirs know real upside for Weisselberg two flip at this point.  I think he extends out the trial with appeals and anything else that is necessary.  Hell just run out the clock on the hole thing and dye indicted but know conviction.  
  • Posts: 49,590
    edited July 2021
    mrussel1 said:
    Yeah I think your probably write about this won.  Theirs know real upside for Weisselberg two flip at this point.  I think he extends out the trial with appeals and anything else that is necessary.  Hell just run out the clock on the hole thing and dye indicted but know conviction.  
    Lol

    I know you're probably on your phone or something but it's funny to see you misuse not only "write" but "theirs" and "know" in the span of two sentences. "Dye" and "hole" must've been aided in for good measure.

    Are we sure Mrussel, here, isn't a Russian troll, folks? Only kidding of course.
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    My guess is that Weisselberg was removed so as to appear to be addressing the situation so that lenders won't/can't call their/there/they're loans due. Can't have an indicted CFO touching other people's money.

    As for flipping, I'm not so sure. What's the current downside? He knows this will drag on forever with the amount of documents his defense will want to review. If and when he sees the inside of a courtroom, and is found guilty, POOTWH will take care of his wife and kids going forward and he serves 2 years in Fort Dix washing dishes and mopping floors. Small price to pay. More likely, he dies awaiting trial. In his mid 80s.

    The money laundering for putin on the ritz's oligarchs is where its at and why Weisselberg won't sing. A little radiation with your tea and coffee? He knows the score and the deal he made. He's all in.

    He could flip to save his children from a similar fate.  At least one of them.
  • Posts: 30,876
    Lol

    I know you're probably on your phone or something but it's funny to see you misuse not only "write" but "theirs" and "know" in the span of two sentences. "Dye" and "hole" must've been aided in for good measure.

    Are we sure Mrussel, here, isn't a Russian troll, folks? Only kidding of course.
    I due this at work sometimes when people misuse words in communications.  It really makes you're head hurt.  
  • Posts: 30,876
    Smellyman said:

    He could flip to save his children from a similar fate.  At least one of them.
    Are they under investigation by a grand jury?  If his assets are protected (and he is quite wealthy), I don't know that it will make a difference. 
  • Asia Posts: 4,528
    mrussel1 said:
    Are they under investigation by a grand jury?  If his assets are protected (and he is quite wealthy), I don't know that it will make a difference. 

    It is all way above my pay grade.  I won't pretend  to understand any of this.


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