The coronavirus

dankind said:

Mandate?

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

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I'm assuming they meant in case they had to evacuate and be forced to shelter with hundreds or thousands of other people. Would seem like a super spreader event just waiting to happen. 

"You can take simple steps to prepare for hurricanes, including getting a covid-19 vaccine, and building a ready-kit...."

It just sounds funny. 

And let's face it, anybody that hasn't gotten the vaccine by now isn't going to get it based television ads, Biden telling them to, or referencing the vaccine as a simple step to prepare for a hurricane. 

The admin believes there are still some persuadable people out there.  That's why they are going with the small vax events, door to door discussions, etc.  I think they are right.  My close friend has been an idiot about this for several months, but now because of the delta variant, he's considering getting it. 

I mean, who could have seen variants coming with people not getting vaccinated?????

No one.  No one could have predicted anything, ever.  Everything that happens is a full out surprise. 

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

Mandate?

Yup, mandate in order to buy cigarettes, alcohol, guns, ammo or shop at Wal-mart.  Then mandate religious organizations receiving tax free status must have a vaccination rate of 80% to maintain their tax-free status and pretty soon everyone in america has been vaccinated!!

mrussel1 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

^
I'm assuming they meant in case they had to evacuate and be forced to shelter with hundreds or thousands of other people. Would seem like a super spreader event just waiting to happen. 

"You can take simple steps to prepare for hurricanes, including getting a covid-19 vaccine, and building a ready-kit...."

It just sounds funny. 

And let's face it, anybody that hasn't gotten the vaccine by now isn't going to get it based television ads, Biden telling them to, or referencing the vaccine as a simple step to prepare for a hurricane. 

The admin believes there are still some persuadable people out there.  That's why they are going with the small vax events, door to door discussions, etc.  I think they are right.  My close friend has been an idiot about this for several months, but now because of the delta variant, he's considering getting it. 

I mean, who could have seen variants coming with people not getting vaccinated?????

No one.  No one could have predicted anything, ever.  Everything that happens is a full out surprise. 

Why have experts? No one knows anything, but me and the research I did. So what that these people have dedicated their lives and education to these subjects? Me and my financial background knows more than enough than any doctor or scientist. Pssh. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

(Sarcasm can be hard to read on the internet but I hope this was not.)


Man, the downfall of American society is undoubtedly toxic individualism, and the need to be contrarian for no other reason but to be contrarian. Oh, and the selfishness. Oh and we (as a whole) are woefully stupid.

This one guy from high school who sucked in math seems to know a lot about vaccines, voting machines  and constitutional law.  I might see what he has to say about it.  

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

^
I'm assuming they meant in case they had to evacuate and be forced to shelter with hundreds or thousands of other people. Would seem like a super spreader event just waiting to happen. 

"You can take simple steps to prepare for hurricanes, including getting a covid-19 vaccine, and building a ready-kit...."

It just sounds funny. 

And let's face it, anybody that hasn't gotten the vaccine by now isn't going to get it based television ads, Biden telling them to, or referencing the vaccine as a simple step to prepare for a hurricane. 

The admin believes there are still some persuadable people out there.  That's why they are going with the small vax events, door to door discussions, etc.  I think they are right.  My close friend has been an idiot about this for several months, but now because of the delta variant, he's considering getting it. 

Well I'm sure there's some, but probably not very many. 

You friend seems like a surprising case. I would think that someone that has held out this long would roll his eyes at the idea of a new variant. So he didn't care before, and now he's considering it? Weird. 

There are many people who bought into the "it hasn't been tested enough" theory, so they waited.  Others didn't prioritize, etc.  People have reasons, even bad ones.  If 10% of the unvaxxed pop is persuadable, that's a big number and important. 

Well a big problem is that they're still not fully FDA-approved. They just got "emergency authorization." So that might have contributed to people not having full faith in it. 

I don't believe for one second that after it receives full approval that vax rates will skyrocket.  

Jearlpam0925 said:

mrussel1 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

mrussel1 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

^
I'm assuming they meant in case they had to evacuate and be forced to shelter with hundreds or thousands of other people. Would seem like a super spreader event just waiting to happen. 

"You can take simple steps to prepare for hurricanes, including getting a covid-19 vaccine, and building a ready-kit...."

It just sounds funny. 

And let's face it, anybody that hasn't gotten the vaccine by now isn't going to get it based television ads, Biden telling them to, or referencing the vaccine as a simple step to prepare for a hurricane. 

The admin believes there are still some persuadable people out there.  That's why they are going with the small vax events, door to door discussions, etc.  I think they are right.  My close friend has been an idiot about this for several months, but now because of the delta variant, he's considering getting it. 

I mean, who could have seen variants coming with people not getting vaccinated?????

No one.  No one could have predicted anything, ever.  Everything that happens is a full out surprise. 

Why have experts? No one knows anything, but me and the research I did. So what that these people have dedicated their lives and education to these subjects? Me and my financial background knows more than enough than any doctor or scientist. Pssh. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

(Sarcasm can be hard to read on the internet but I hope this was not.)


Man, the downfall of American society is undoubtedly toxic individualism, and the need to be contrarian for no other reason but to be contrarian. Oh, and the selfishness. Oh and we (as a whole) are woefully stupid.

This one guy from high school who sucked in math seems to know a lot about vaccines, voting machines  and constitutional law.  I might see what he has to say about it.  

I mean he's probably right - it's all one large concerted effort by thousands (millions?), upon thousands (millions?) of people - of which none want the credit of such a diabolical scheme - to stay tightlipped about this gigantic conspiracy theory.

"THESE VACCINES ARE TOOLS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER NO ONE KNOWS IF THEY'RE SAFE" (sucks on vape pen, then takes a bite of his "chicken" sandwich from McDonald's, washed down with a liter of Cola)

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

^
I'm assuming they meant in case they had to evacuate and be forced to shelter with hundreds or thousands of other people. Would seem like a super spreader event just waiting to happen. 

"You can take simple steps to prepare for hurricanes, including getting a covid-19 vaccine, and building a ready-kit...."

It just sounds funny. 

And let's face it, anybody that hasn't gotten the vaccine by now isn't going to get it based television ads, Biden telling them to, or referencing the vaccine as a simple step to prepare for a hurricane. 

The admin believes there are still some persuadable people out there.  That's why they are going with the small vax events, door to door discussions, etc.  I think they are right.  My close friend has been an idiot about this for several months, but now because of the delta variant, he's considering getting it. 

Well I'm sure there's some, but probably not very many. 

You friend seems like a surprising case. I would think that someone that has held out this long would roll his eyes at the idea of a new variant. So he didn't care before, and now he's considering it? Weird. 

There are many people who bought into the "it hasn't been tested enough" theory, so they waited.  Others didn't prioritize, etc.  People have reasons, even bad ones.  If 10% of the unvaxxed pop is persuadable, that's a big number and important. 

Well a big problem is that they're still not fully FDA-approved. They just got "emergency authorization." So that might have contributed to people not having full faith in it. 

I don't believe for one second that after it receives full approval that vax rates will skyrocket.  

I don't think so either. But if it was FDA-approved from the outset, maybe there would've been a higher vax rate. But oh yeah, now, it wouldn't make a lick of difference. 

If we waited for it to go through full approval,  we'd still be waiting.  Not a good tradeoff.  

So why exactly isn't it approved?

Jearlpam0925 said:

Signed my 21 month old and 3 year old up for a trial through Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP). Hopefully they'll contact me soon and/or they authorize anyway for under 12 years old by September.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zgTcrZ5030

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

^
I'm assuming they meant in case they had to evacuate and be forced to shelter with hundreds or thousands of other people. Would seem like a super spreader event just waiting to happen. 

"You can take simple steps to prepare for hurricanes, including getting a covid-19 vaccine, and building a ready-kit...."

It just sounds funny. 

And let's face it, anybody that hasn't gotten the vaccine by now isn't going to get it based television ads, Biden telling them to, or referencing the vaccine as a simple step to prepare for a hurricane. 

The admin believes there are still some persuadable people out there.  That's why they are going with the small vax events, door to door discussions, etc.  I think they are right.  My close friend has been an idiot about this for several months, but now because of the delta variant, he's considering getting it. 

Well I'm sure there's some, but probably not very many. 

You friend seems like a surprising case. I would think that someone that has held out this long would roll his eyes at the idea of a new variant. So he didn't care before, and now he's considering it? Weird. 

There are many people who bought into the "it hasn't been tested enough" theory, so they waited.  Others didn't prioritize, etc.  People have reasons, even bad ones.  If 10% of the unvaxxed pop is persuadable, that's a big number and important. 

Well a big problem is that they're still not fully FDA-approved. They just got "emergency authorization." So that might have contributed to people not having full faith in it. 

I don't believe for one second that after it receives full approval that vax rates will skyrocket.  

I don't think so either. But if it was FDA-approved from the outset, maybe there would've been a higher vax rate. But oh yeah, now, it wouldn't make a lick of difference. 

If we waited for it to go through full approval,  we'd still be waiting.  Not a good tradeoff.  

So why exactly isn't it approved?

because you need at least six months of 'production' data (that's the term I would use in my business).  This is good info for you.  https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/are-covid-vaccines-fda-approved-heres-the-latest/2549097/

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

^
I'm assuming they meant in case they had to evacuate and be forced to shelter with hundreds or thousands of other people. Would seem like a super spreader event just waiting to happen. 

"You can take simple steps to prepare for hurricanes, including getting a covid-19 vaccine, and building a ready-kit...."

It just sounds funny. 

And let's face it, anybody that hasn't gotten the vaccine by now isn't going to get it based television ads, Biden telling them to, or referencing the vaccine as a simple step to prepare for a hurricane. 

The admin believes there are still some persuadable people out there.  That's why they are going with the small vax events, door to door discussions, etc.  I think they are right.  My close friend has been an idiot about this for several months, but now because of the delta variant, he's considering getting it. 

Well I'm sure there's some, but probably not very many. 

You friend seems like a surprising case. I would think that someone that has held out this long would roll his eyes at the idea of a new variant. So he didn't care before, and now he's considering it? Weird. 

There are many people who bought into the "it hasn't been tested enough" theory, so they waited.  Others didn't prioritize, etc.  People have reasons, even bad ones.  If 10% of the unvaxxed pop is persuadable, that's a big number and important. 

Well a big problem is that they're still not fully FDA-approved. They just got "emergency authorization." So that might have contributed to people not having full faith in it. 

I don't believe for one second that after it receives full approval that vax rates will skyrocket.  

I don't think so either. But if it was FDA-approved from the outset, maybe there would've been a higher vax rate. But oh yeah, now, it wouldn't make a lick of difference. 

If we waited for it to go through full approval,  we'd still be waiting.  Not a good tradeoff.  

So why exactly isn't it approved?

because you need at least six months of 'production' data (that's the term I would use in my business).  This is good info for you.  https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/are-covid-vaccines-fda-approved-heres-the-latest/2549097/

This kinda renders the FDA irrelevant in all this if the vaccines can't be "approved," but they can receive "emergency authorization."