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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    This thread has been quiet for a while and surprised no one posted this.
    https://www.thenation.com/article/society/gwen-berry/

    Gwen Barry is an articulate, well spoken, won't back down woman.  I don't agree w what she did but her reasons for it are understandable.

    She has a platform that she is using but like Kap the message gets lost because there is no conversation.

    The twittersphere and social media are filled with one liners and the meanings get lost in the muck.

    Good luck in Tokyo Gwen!
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    Except Gwen used to be.... patriotic.  I don't know what happened in the past couple of years to change her mind.  


  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    I fully support Gwen Berry's actions. Same as Colin Kaepernick, Tommie Smith, John Carlos, Vince Matthews, and Wayne Collett. Jackie Robinson stated he would never stand for the anthem. They are all patriots.
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    Hobbes said:
    I fully support Gwen Berry's actions. Same as Colin Kaepernick, Tommie Smith, John Carlos, Vince Matthews, and Wayne Collett. Jackie Robinson stated he would never stand for the anthem. They are all patriots.
    For the record, I do too.  But what changed from this...
    Gwen Berry Didn39t Always Hate The Flag Only Now That It39s Trendy OutKick

    to this...
    Gwen Berry claims she was 39set up39 after turning away from flag on Olympic trials podium
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    Hobbes said:
    I fully support Gwen Berry's actions. Same as Colin Kaepernick, Tommie Smith, John Carlos, Vince Matthews, and Wayne Collett. Jackie Robinson stated he would never stand for the anthem. They are all patriots.
    Robinson said that but I don't think it ever happened publicly?
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Seriously? 7 years. She was 25 in the first photo. A lot of growth, maturity, and life experience. Certainly attitude and belief will change over time. And should change. Baffles me that this is a concept difficult to fathom.
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Hobbes said:
    I fully support Gwen Berry's actions. Same as Colin Kaepernick, Tommie Smith, John Carlos, Vince Matthews, and Wayne Collett. Jackie Robinson stated he would never stand for the anthem. They are all patriots.
    Robinson said that but I don't think it ever happened publicly?
    Robinson did enough for Civil Rights.
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    Hobbes said:
    Seriously? 7 years. She was 25 in the first photo. A lot of growth, maturity, and life experience. Certainly attitude and belief will change over time. And should change. Baffles me that this is a concept difficult to fathom.
    Good point.  I can remember a band that used to hate Ticketmaster.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    Hobbes said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Hobbes said:
    I fully support Gwen Berry's actions. Same as Colin Kaepernick, Tommie Smith, John Carlos, Vince Matthews, and Wayne Collett. Jackie Robinson stated he would never stand for the anthem. They are all patriots.
    Robinson said that but I don't think it ever happened publicly?
    Robinson did enough for Civil Rights.
    That isn't even a topic to discuss.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,407
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    Hobbes said:
    Seriously? 7 years. She was 25 in the first photo. A lot of growth, maturity, and life experience. Certainly attitude and belief will change over time. And should change. Baffles me that this is a concept difficult to fathom.
    Good point.  I can remember a band that used to hate Ticketmaster.
    When you troll, you troll hard. Nice work. Take a break champ, you've earned it.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,407
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    Hobbes said:
    I fully support Gwen Berry's actions. Same as Colin Kaepernick, Tommie Smith, John Carlos, Vince Matthews, and Wayne Collett. Jackie Robinson stated he would never stand for the anthem. They are all patriots.
    For the record, I do too.  But what changed from this...
    Gwen Berry Didn39t Always Hate The Flag Only Now That It39s Trendy OutKick

    to this...
    Gwen Berry claims she was 39set up39 after turning away from flag on Olympic trials podium
    What a fantastic point. Domestic abusers should use wedding pictures and happy photos to challenge things too. I mean, what happened, right? Maybe this can be a new defense for rapists too...oh wait, that already happens to women all the time.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • lindamarie73
    lindamarie73 Posts: 491
    What’s really sad is the person in 3rd place is getting all the attention for her “look at me moment”.  I salute the 2 woman who outperformed that nitwit and are proud and respectful representing ALL Americans….
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    lindamarie73 said:
    What’s really sad is the person in 3rd place is getting all the attention for her “look at me moment”.  I salute the 2 woman who outperformed that nitwit and are proud and respectful representing ALL Americans….
    That’s not the sad part.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    lindamarie73 said:
    What’s really sad is the person in 3rd place is getting all the attention for her “look at me moment”.  I salute the 2 woman who outperformed that nitwit and are proud and respectful representing ALL Americans….
    Funny when I read your post I have the same feeling SAD 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,408
      https://youtu.be/NzEU5K3Y7xU

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,408
     Frederick Douglass had nothing but scorn for July Fourth. The Black abolitionist spoke for the enslaved.
    By Gillian Brockell

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/07/04/frederick-douglass-july-4th-slavery/

     

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    lindamarie73 said:
    What’s really sad is the person in 3rd place is getting all the attention for her “look at me moment”.  I salute the 2 woman who outperformed that nitwit and are proud and respectful representing ALL Americans….

    I agree that the women who finished 1st and 2nd deserve big kudos for there achievements. However, that really has nothing to do with the topic at hand, Linda. 
    Also, I'm curious as to how you seem to know that the 1st and 2nd place winner represent ALL Americans?   For all I know they very well may well, but also, for all I know, they might hate black or Hispanics or Amish people.  But I'm not going to make such claims one way oth the other without some evidence or proof first.  So perhaps you could please provide some evidence to back your claim.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,408
    promoting equality or at least equitable treatment of your marginalized community IS in fact representing all Americans. Its fighting for the ideals in that shiny brochure most other Americans think we've already achieved.....
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    mickeyrat said:
    promoting equality or at least equitable treatment of your marginalized community IS in fact representing all Americans. Its fighting for the ideals in that shiny brochure most other Americans think we've already achieved.....

    Well said, M.  Sadly, we are still far away from achieving those lofty goals.  I would say we have at least move in the right direction in my life time- but the progress has been slow and (to me at least) disappointingly slow.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lindamarie73
    lindamarie73 Posts: 491
    brianlux said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    What’s really sad is the person in 3rd place is getting all the attention for her “look at me moment”.  I salute the 2 woman who outperformed that nitwit and are proud and respectful representing ALL Americans….

    I agree that the women who finished 1st and 2nd deserve big kudos for there achievements. However, that really has nothing to do with the topic at hand, Linda. 
    Also, I'm curious as to how you seem to know that the 1st and 2nd place winner represent ALL Americans?   For all I know they very well may well, but also, for all I know, they might hate black or Hispanics or Amish people.  But I'm not going to make such claims one way oth the other without some evidence or proof first.  So perhaps you could please provide some evidence to back your claim.
    So let me get this straight, you want me to provide you proof that the 1st and second place finisher don’t hate Blacks, Hispanics, or Amish people???  Well that might be a tough one to prove Brian, I am simply going to be patriotic and claim they are PROUD to Represent their Country and PROUD they are afforded the opportunity to do so.  These athletes like the rotten brain nitwit above who pander to the ways of BLM and chant thier name every chance they get , make it impossible for a reasonable person to take seriously, especially when BLM put’s out statements like the one below.  Now tell me, who is the REAL Racist???? 

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