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    The Juggler said:
    Probably should’ve just put Maxey in.

    Ben....just pathetic. 
    For his 5/20 FT shooting throughout the course of the series? Absolutely. Inexcusable.

    For his 4/8 FT shooting during the “hack-a-Ben” sequence? The Sixers shot 41.7% from the field last night, so that 1 point per possession was more efficient than they were as a team for the night. His career average would have been to make 1 more of those 8, hardly a difference maker. On the Wizards possessions following his 1/2 FT trips Beal made a tough step back, Gafford had a put back dunk, and Rui hit a 3. That was the real difference maker. This team hangs its hat on crunch time defense, not Ben Simmons making clutch FTs. 
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    For his 5/20 FT shooting throughout the course of the series? Absolutely. Inexcusable.

    For his 4/8 FT shooting during the “hack-a-Ben” sequence? The Sixers shot 41.7% from the field last night, so that 1 point per possession was more efficient than they were as a team for the night. His career average would have been to make 1 more of those 8, hardly a difference maker. On the Wizards possessions following his 1/2 FT trips Beal made a tough step back, Gafford had a put back dunk, and Rui hit a 3. That was the real difference maker. This team hangs its hat on crunch time defense, not Ben Simmons making clutch FTs. 
    There is no excuse for your all star point guard to be shooting 25% from the free throw line in the playoffs. Embiid goes down, and instead of your other all star picking up the slack he gets in foul trouble early and watches as the bench mounts a comeback...comes back in and goes 50% from the line at the end of the game. It's embarrassing. You can get by beating the Wizards and probably the Hawks like that, but you're not going to be able to hide him down the stretch of games against the Nets or Bucks. This is the stuff I've been talking about. It's so frustrating because he is elite in other areas and obviously excels on the defensive side. Okay, he's not going to shoot, we all know that. But he needs to be aggressive and he absolutely needs to be a hell of a lot better from the free throw line. Jim Lynam said it best last night--something to the effect of Ben Simmons is already great basketball player, but he will never reach his full potential (superstar caliber player) until he improves those other areas of his game). He's right. 

    Also, I believe he's shooting 53% since he had that great run in February. Obviously that is just a disgusting effort. 

    Of course this is all a moo point if Jo is done. Fuck. 
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    Honestly if the Jo news is bad I see myself just checking out.
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    Seeing some stuff leak out that he's fine and will play Wednesday...
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    The Juggler said:
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    There is no excuse for your all star point guard to be shooting 25% from the free throw line in the playoffs. Embiid goes down, and instead of your other all star picking up the slack he gets in foul trouble early and watches as the bench mounts a comeback...comes back in and goes 50% from the line at the end of the game. It's embarrassing. You can get by beating the Wizards and probably the Hawks like that, but you're not going to be able to hide him down the stretch of games against the Nets or Bucks. This is the stuff I've been talking about. It's so frustrating because he is elite in other areas and obviously excels on the defensive side. Okay, he's not going to shoot, we all know that. But he needs to be aggressive and he absolutely needs to be a hell of a lot better from the free throw line. Jim Lynam said it best last night--something to the effect of Ben Simmons is already great basketball player, but he will never reach his full potential (superstar caliber player) until he improves those other areas of his game). He's right. 

    Also, I believe he's shooting 53% since he had that great run in February. Obviously that is just a disgusting effort. 

    Of course this is all a moo point if Jo is done. Fuck. 
    No I totally agree with you. 5-20 for the series is nauseating. I just don’t think that the 4/8 down the stretch is that concerning. When Embiid is back and the defense is humming in crunch time like it has all year, by playing the hack-a-Ben teams will be trading 1 point for 0. Not a good strategy. 
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    Also, if Tobi plays the way he did last night we are royally fucked. Looking at the stat sheet I would say that he just couldn’t get rolling because Embiid was out so the defense was zeroing in on him (which would be fine, because we only need him to excel when Jo is healthy).

    But watching the game, he had EXTREMELY favorable matchups. Ish Smith, Beal, and Rui in 1-on-1 scenarios, resulting in turnovers or badly missed shots. He was blocked 6 times, 1 shy of tying the postseason record. 

    Let’s hope it was just a really off night for him and an anomaly. 
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    The Juggler said:
    Seeing some stuff leak out that he's fine and will play Wednesday...

    Quite a bad leak.  He's out "Doubtful" Wednesday, so he likely won't travel to Washington with the team.
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    RiotZact said:
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    For his 5/20 FT shooting throughout the course of the series? Absolutely. Inexcusable.

    For his 4/8 FT shooting during the “hack-a-Ben” sequence? The Sixers shot 41.7% from the field last night, so that 1 point per possession was more efficient than they were as a team for the night. His career average would have been to make 1 more of those 8, hardly a difference maker. On the Wizards possessions following his 1/2 FT trips Beal made a tough step back, Gafford had a put back dunk, and Rui hit a 3. That was the real difference maker. This team hangs its hat on crunch time defense, not Ben Simmons making clutch FTs. 
    I totally get this take, and Doc had a similar take (about taking 1 point per possession every time).  But the fact is that it killed the clock.  If we got 1 point per possession but was able to run the 24 down each time, we probably would have won

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    Embiid doubtful for game 5 :disappointed:
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    Deamon said:
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    I totally get this take, and Doc had a similar take (about taking 1 point per possession every time).  But the fact is that it killed the clock.  If we got 1 point per possession but was able to run the 24 down each time, we probably would have won

    Yeah. It's also getting into foul trouble early and just not doing a whole lot for the second half of the game. Stuff like this will come back to haunt us against better teams. 

    Gargano was the guy who said Embiid was fine. Maybe by fine he meant not to worry about him being done for the playoffs or something. They should dispose of this team without Jo tomorrow night as long as everyone plays to their capabilities. Then Jo still gets a week to rest for the Hawks (or Knicks if they come back).

    Tomorrow is at home, not Washington. Outside shot he could play, I guess .
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    RiotZact said:
    Also, if Tobi plays the way he did last night we are royally fucked. Looking at the stat sheet I would say that he just couldn’t get rolling because Embiid was out so the defense was zeroing in on him (which would be fine, because we only need him to excel when Jo is healthy).

    But watching the game, he had EXTREMELY favorable matchups. Ish Smith, Beal, and Rui in 1-on-1 scenarios, resulting in turnovers or badly missed shots. He was blocked 6 times, 1 shy of tying the postseason record. 

    Let’s hope it was just a really off night for him and an anomaly. 
    Yeah Tobi needs to be better too. The difference here is Tobi had a bad game and I expect him to be better, whereas Ben's problems last night are things he's been dealing with forever. And we're gonna need more from him in those area's down the line. 

    Ish defended him well and I think he gave Tobi a hard time because he is so quick. 
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    Deamon said:
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    Quite a bad leak.  He's out "Doubtful" Wednesday, so he likely won't travel to Washington with the team.
    If the team travels to Washington Wednesday, they will forfeit the game.  ;)
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    Poncier said:
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    If the team travels to Washington Wednesday, they will forfeit the game.  ;)
    So Jo would be smart not to travel to Washington with or without the team then. 
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    Deamon said:
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    I totally get this take, and Doc had a similar take (about taking 1 point per possession every time).  But the fact is that it killed the clock.  If we got 1 point per possession but was able to run the 24 down each time, we probably would have won

    This is true. There’s also always the possibility of a dagger 3 pointer falling on one of those possessions, not only putting 3 points on the board but also acting as a huge momentum shifter. I just think most coaches won’t do it because you look like a massive idiot if it doesn’t work. And it very easily could have not worked last night if the Sixers would have played their typical crunch time D. 
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    The Juggler said:
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    Yeah Tobi needs to be better too. The difference here is Tobi had a bad game and I expect him to be better, whereas Ben's problems last night are things he's been dealing with forever. And we're gonna need more from him in those area's down the line. 

    Ish defended him well and I think he gave Tobi a hard time because he is so quick. 
    For sure. Tobi has earned the benefit of the doubt. Staying out of foul trouble might be the key. Especially if they end up playing the Hawks and the Nets. Except for the abysmal FTs I think Ben played great in the first 3 games of this series, and those defenses aren’t much better than Washington. 

    Even though the Sixers might stand a better chance overall against the Bucks, Simmons would likely be neutralized against that defense. Could see some very 2019 Raptors series type stat lines from him. 
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    Jearlpam0925 said:


    Option A.
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    The Juggler said:
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    So Jo would be smart not to travel to Washington with or without the team then. 

    I dunno, I don't wanna risk game 7.  Think he has to play in a game 6.

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    Jearlpam0925 said:

    I have certainly never been referred to as "normal".
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    Joel with a small tear in his meniscus.
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