POLL- The WEAKEST LINK: Rolling Stone Magazine's Top 10 Guitarist- ROUND 1

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    Duane Allman
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Rhoads and Hendrix had short tenures on this mortal coil. Both are still in my top 3. And when I listen to them, they're easily number 1 at that moment.

    Nothing stops me in my tracks and demands all of my attention like Frusciante, though. I basically just fucking space out like the "Desperado" weirdo on Seinfeld when I play Frusciante.

    RE: Keith, you know Jimmy Page's nickname among his cohort, yes? Difference being that he will never own up to it.
    Hendrix, unlike Allman had a completely different type of sound.  

    Allman could play just like Randy could play but they didn't offer anything truly different like say EVH and Morello did.  I keep on forgetting to mention Les Paul.  If not for him no one would have been playing these 'electric twangers'.
    You're so wrong about Rhoads. But that's OK, you're wrong about so much.

    Saw Les Paul every chance I got when I lived in NYC. Every birthday show, for sure! Crazy who would show up to jam at those things.

    I remember Slash being an absolute beast at one and my wife being upset that she skipped the show. (Slash is her favorite guitarist/sex  fantasy.)

    If there's video out there of these shows, check them out. 
    I had just started to make more frequent rtrips back to NY and found out that I could see Les Paul on the Tuesday or whatever day it was that he played.  I went to purchase a ticket and he had passed that day.  I was mortified as I was so excited to see him in person...  I am jealous of you.

    Not sure what Randy figured out on the geetar that was so different aside from everyone else?  His style differed but they were things that everyone already did and his work was very short unfortunately too.  I think his death makes him better.  I always looked at Chris Holmes from WASP as someone whom molded himself after Rhoads.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Eric Clapton
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Rhoads and Hendrix had short tenures on this mortal coil. Both are still in my top 3. And when I listen to them, they're easily number 1 at that moment.

    Nothing stops me in my tracks and demands all of my attention like Frusciante, though. I basically just fucking space out like the "Desperado" weirdo on Seinfeld when I play Frusciante.

    RE: Keith, you know Jimmy Page's nickname among his cohort, yes? Difference being that he will never own up to it.
    Hendrix, unlike Allman had a completely different type of sound.  

    Allman could play just like Randy could play but they didn't offer anything truly different like say EVH and Morello did.  I keep on forgetting to mention Les Paul.  If not for him no one would have been playing these 'electric twangers'.
    You're so wrong about Rhoads. But that's OK, you're wrong about so much.

    Saw Les Paul every chance I got when I lived in NYC. Every birthday show, for sure! Crazy who would show up to jam at those things.

    I remember Slash being an absolute beast at one and my wife being upset that she skipped the show. (Slash is her favorite guitarist/sex  fantasy.)

    If there's video out there of these shows, check them out. 
    I had just started to make more frequent rtrips back to NY and found out that I could see Les Paul on the Tuesday or whatever day it was that he played.  I went to purchase a ticket and he had passed that day.  I was mortified as I was so excited to see him in person...  I am jealous of you.

    Not sure what Randy figured out on the geetar that was so different aside from everyone else?  His style differed but they were things that everyone already did and his work was very short unfortunately too.  I think his death makes him better.  I always looked at Chris Holmes from WASP as someone whom molded himself after Rhoads.
    Both men loved their mothers.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,836
    edited April 2021
    Pete Townshend
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Rhoads and Hendrix had short tenures on this mortal coil. Both are still in my top 3. And when I listen to them, they're easily number 1 at that moment.

    Nothing stops me in my tracks and demands all of my attention like Frusciante, though. I basically just fucking space out like the "Desperado" weirdo on Seinfeld when I play Frusciante.

    RE: Keith, you know Jimmy Page's nickname among his cohort, yes? Difference being that he will never own up to it.
    Hendrix, unlike Allman had a completely different type of sound.  

    Allman could play just like Randy could play but they didn't offer anything truly different like say EVH and Morello did.  I keep on forgetting to mention Les Paul.  If not for him no one would have been playing these 'electric twangers'.
    You're so wrong about Rhoads. But that's OK, you're wrong about so much.

    Saw Les Paul every chance I got when I lived in NYC. Every birthday show, for sure! Crazy who would show up to jam at those things.

    I remember Slash being an absolute beast at one and my wife being upset that she skipped the show. (Slash is her favorite guitarist/sex  fantasy.)

    If there's video out there of these shows, check them out. 
    I had just started to make more frequent rtrips back to NY and found out that I could see Les Paul on the Tuesday or whatever day it was that he played.  I went to purchase a ticket and he had passed that day.  I was mortified as I was so excited to see him in person...  I am jealous of you.

    Not sure what Randy figured out on the geetar that was so different aside from everyone else?  His style differed but they were things that everyone already did and his work was very short unfortunately too.  I think his death makes him better.  I always looked at Chris Holmes from WASP as someone whom molded himself after Rhoads.
    Both men loved their mothers.
    That scene from Decline 2 (metal years) with Chris Holmes, his mom, a pool, and a bottle of vodka....it doesn't get more rock and roll.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Pete Townshend
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Well who didn't? Beggars through Exile is rock genius. 
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    Chuck Berry
    dankind said:
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Rhoads and Hendrix had short tenures on this mortal coil. Both are still in my top 3. And when I listen to them, they're easily number 1 at that moment.

    Nothing stops me in my tracks and demands all of my attention like Frusciante, though. I basically just fucking space out like the "Desperado" weirdo on Seinfeld when I play Frusciante.

    RE: Keith, you know Jimmy Page's nickname among his cohort, yes? Difference being that he will never own up to it.
    Hendrix, unlike Allman had a completely different type of sound.  

    Allman could play just like Randy could play but they didn't offer anything truly different like say EVH and Morello did.  I keep on forgetting to mention Les Paul.  If not for him no one would have been playing these 'electric twangers'.
    Allman on slide was pretty innovative and groundbreaking though.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Keith Richards
    dankind said:
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Rhoads and Hendrix had short tenures on this mortal coil. Both are still in my top 3. And when I listen to them, they're easily number 1 at that moment.

    Nothing stops me in my tracks and demands all of my attention like Frusciante, though. I basically just fucking space out like the "Desperado" weirdo on Seinfeld when I play Frusciante.

    RE: Keith, you know Jimmy Page's nickname among his cohort, yes? Difference being that he will never own up to it.
    Yeah but show me something KR has done that exceeds bar-band level?  Dude doesn't shred.  Page shreds.
    And then there's songs like Over the Hills and Far Away and The Rain Song...there's no plagiarism there lol
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,274
    Keith Richards
    dankind said:
    rgambs said:
    cutz said:
    Where's Robin Trower on that list?
    I wonder where Frampton and Blackmore landed on the list too?
    Link to RS list in poll. 
    I can't locate the list for Guitarist. The Link takes me to the Top 500 Songs.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Pete Townshend
    brianlux said:
    Someone I'll add also as I think he gets better every time I see him is John Dwyer from Thee Oh Sees.  Dude has some serious sense of tone.

    I'm not much of a fan, but I have to give him credit for playing well under the duress of having such a short guitar strap.  If that thing was any shorter he would HAVE to play with his teeth! 
    Being a fan of Rodney on the ROQ and the Dead Kennedys as well as Dimascis I figured his style would fit nicely in for you?
    https://youtu.be/ENvavYYwFFc  Try this song out Brian.

    Like they say, "There's no accounting for taste" haha!  Nope, just not a fan.

    Re. the thread as a whole, this is quite the vigorous discussion so far.  Not surprising though because we fan of guitar music are almost always biased.  For example, my quick reply to "Who is the greatest guitar player" is always Jimi Hendrix.  But was he really?  When I really think about it, my response is at least partly biased from having seen Jimi and much of what made him exciting to see was his stage presence.  But I sometimes wonder if he could have been a better guitar player.  Bill Graham saw that potential in Jimi and chided him for his stage antics and encouraged him to knock that shit off and just play.  And the result?  "Machine Gun"!  Watching that performance with Jimi completely immersed in playing with no fooling around, his full brilliance is revealed.  That's a truly masterful performance sans teeth.

    So how much of what leads us to vote in a certain way is based on subjective bias?  It's hard to strip away those extraneous biases.

    Also, what should be considered in called a guitar player "the best"? 
    Technical prowess? That might well be Alan Holdsworth who has yet to be mentioned here.  Or Pat Metheny-  Has he been mentioned?
    Most complex?  Andres Segovia?
    Ability to perform well in multiple styles of music?  Could that be Glen Campbell?
    Influence on music that followed? Robert Johnson?  Jimi Hendrix?

    Tough call!



    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    Chuck Berry
    cutz said:
    dankind said:
    rgambs said:
    cutz said:
    Where's Robin Trower on that list?
    I wonder where Frampton and Blackmore landed on the list too?
    Link to RS list in poll. 
    I can't locate the list for Guitarist. The Link takes me to the Top 500 Songs.
    Link was wrong. I had to use the darn Google: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/100-greatest-guitarists-153675/


    It's a hopeless situation...
  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    tbergs said:
    cutz said:
    dankind said:
    rgambs said:
    cutz said:
    Where's Robin Trower on that list?
    I wonder where Frampton and Blackmore landed on the list too?
    Link to RS list in poll. 
    I can't locate the list for Guitarist. The Link takes me to the Top 500 Songs.
    Link was wrong. I had to use the darn Google: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/100-greatest-guitarists-153675/


    Sorry about that. I corrected it on the first page. Thanks
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Pete Townshend
    rgambs said:
    dankind said:
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Rhoads and Hendrix had short tenures on this mortal coil. Both are still in my top 3. And when I listen to them, they're easily number 1 at that moment.

    Nothing stops me in my tracks and demands all of my attention like Frusciante, though. I basically just fucking space out like the "Desperado" weirdo on Seinfeld when I play Frusciante.

    RE: Keith, you know Jimmy Page's nickname among his cohort, yes? Difference being that he will never own up to it.
    Yeah but show me something KR has done that exceeds bar-band level?  Dude doesn't shred.  Page shreds.
    And then there's songs like Over the Hills and Far Away and The Rain Song...there's no plagiarism there lol
    Meh, who cares about shredding.  Vai and Malmsteen shred but that shit is boring.  KR is friggin' awesome.  The licks he wrote are so great.  If you think Tumbling Dice, Salt of the Earth, Torn and Frayed, Loving Cup, etc. are bar band, you've lost your damn mind or never have dug into the catalog. 
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    Chuck Berry
    I know Allman's probably going out, but some of his work is phenomenal even his career was short. If you listen to Wilson Pickett's cover of Hey Jude, the last few minutes is a fun listen just to hear Duane play it with such soul.

    https://youtu.be/0y8Q2PATVyI

    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Pete Townshend
    Duane was amazing.. just too short.  I can only imagine what he could have done.  
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited April 2021
    Pete Townshend
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    dankind said:
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Rhoads and Hendrix had short tenures on this mortal coil. Both are still in my top 3. And when I listen to them, they're easily number 1 at that moment.

    Nothing stops me in my tracks and demands all of my attention like Frusciante, though. I basically just fucking space out like the "Desperado" weirdo on Seinfeld when I play Frusciante.

    RE: Keith, you know Jimmy Page's nickname among his cohort, yes? Difference being that he will never own up to it.
    Yeah but show me something KR has done that exceeds bar-band level?  Dude doesn't shred.  Page shreds.
    And then there's songs like Over the Hills and Far Away and The Rain Song...there's no plagiarism there lol
    Meh, who cares about shredding.  Vai and Malmsteen shred but that shit is boring.  KR is friggin' awesome.  The licks he wrote are so great.  If you think Tumbling Dice, Salt of the Earth, Torn and Frayed, Loving Cup, etc. are bar band, you've lost your damn mind or never have dug into the catalog. 

    Keith is great but not one I would think of as the greatest.  But one of my favorite musicians would be right there with you in singing Keith's praises- Paul Westerberg.
    Everything you need to get excited about the Replacements Keith Richards  and 30 Rock  Yer doin great a muzak clickclackEverything you need to get excited about the Replacements Keith Richards  and 30 Rock  Yer doin great a muzak clickclack


    Post edited by brianlux on
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Pete Townshend
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    dankind said:
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Rhoads and Hendrix had short tenures on this mortal coil. Both are still in my top 3. And when I listen to them, they're easily number 1 at that moment.

    Nothing stops me in my tracks and demands all of my attention like Frusciante, though. I basically just fucking space out like the "Desperado" weirdo on Seinfeld when I play Frusciante.

    RE: Keith, you know Jimmy Page's nickname among his cohort, yes? Difference being that he will never own up to it.
    Yeah but show me something KR has done that exceeds bar-band level?  Dude doesn't shred.  Page shreds.
    And then there's songs like Over the Hills and Far Away and The Rain Song...there's no plagiarism there lol
    Meh, who cares about shredding.  Vai and Malmsteen shred but that shit is boring.  KR is friggin' awesome.  The licks he wrote are so great.  If you think Tumbling Dice, Salt of the Earth, Torn and Frayed, Loving Cup, etc. are bar band, you've lost your damn mind or never have dug into the catalog. 

    Keith is great but not one I would think of as the greatest.  But one of my favorite musicians would be right there with you in singing Keith's praises- Paul Westerberg.
    Everything you need to get excited about the Replacements Keith Richards  and 30 Rock  Yer doin great a muzak clickclack

    I definitely don't think he is the greatest, and probably not in the top 10.  But he's great.  Funny, I could never quite get into Westerberg or the Replacements. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Pete Townshend
    There's an old saying that every time you smoke, Richards takes 7 minutes of your life. 
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    Chuck Berry
    Music is in a much better place because of KR and that makes him great, just not the greatest. No reason for anyone to compare him to bar band material though. I think he earned his top ten due to his writing. I could easily swap him out of the top ten with anyone the next ten down, although I think he is better than Berry and Townshend.

    I also think James Taylor is a fantastic guitar player, but his style is not meant to make him a great in that aspect, but he is great at it.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    Chuck Berry
    mrussel1 said:
    There's an old saying that every time you smoke, Richards takes 7 minutes of your life. 
    I feel like he takes 7 minutes every time I see a picture of him. He stole like a year of my life when they did that appearance on the covid relief show last year.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Pete Townshend
    tbergs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There's an old saying that every time you smoke, Richards takes 7 minutes of your life. 
    I feel like he takes 7 minutes every time I see a picture of him. He stole like a year of my life when they did that appearance on the covid relief show last year.
    He's immortal. That has to be worth something. 
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Keith Richards
    mrussel1 said:
    rgambs said:
    dankind said:
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Rhoads and Hendrix had short tenures on this mortal coil. Both are still in my top 3. And when I listen to them, they're easily number 1 at that moment.

    Nothing stops me in my tracks and demands all of my attention like Frusciante, though. I basically just fucking space out like the "Desperado" weirdo on Seinfeld when I play Frusciante.

    RE: Keith, you know Jimmy Page's nickname among his cohort, yes? Difference being that he will never own up to it.
    Yeah but show me something KR has done that exceeds bar-band level?  Dude doesn't shred.  Page shreds.
    And then there's songs like Over the Hills and Far Away and The Rain Song...there's no plagiarism there lol
    Meh, who cares about shredding.  Vai and Malmsteen shred but that shit is boring.  KR is friggin' awesome.  The licks he wrote are so great.  If you think Tumbling Dice, Salt of the Earth, Torn and Frayed, Loving Cup, etc. are bar band, you've lost your damn mind or never have dug into the catalog. 
    Mike McCready cares about shredding lol
    It certainly isn't everything, but you aren't top ten material if you can't.  


    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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