NUKE THE FILIBUSTER

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    the filibuster is not in the constitution...

    the way our government functions now with minority in the senate controlling everything is not the way the government was designed.
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  • Posts: 5,072
    the filibuster is not in the constitution...

    the way our government functions now with minority in the senate controlling everything is not the way the government was designed.
    I know.  That was the argument that was given to me on this board many times when I was crying about electoral politics during the presidential election.  And I used the same argument about how nowhere in the constitution is there mention of democrats or republicans or a two party system.  Yes the filibuster is a racist tool of white supremacy.  And needs to go.  Please excuse my earlier sarcasm
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    static111 said:
    I know.  That was the argument that was given to me on this board many times when I was crying about electoral politics during the presidential election.  And I used the same argument about how nowhere in the constitution is there mention of democrats or republicans or a two party system.  Yes the filibuster is a racist tool of white supremacy.  And needs to go.  Please excuse my earlier sarcasm
    Fillibuster racist?  It's a means of blocking a bill from being passed or counted, not sure how it's racist?  Or is it because of everything else mentioned in the proposed bill?

    Asking a question.

    Also if the fillibuster goes you'll have Mitch on record stating that he would make things very difficult for anything to go through by the opposition.  He means what he says.  He'd screw up something that he wrote even if the dems supported it, he is that vengeful. I'm shocked he said that out in public and people will still vote for him?  It really is party first and country second.

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    Fillibuster racist?  It's a means of blocking a bill from being passed or counted, not sure how it's racist?  Or is it because of everything else mentioned in the proposed bill?

    Asking a question.

    Also if the fillibuster goes you'll have Mitch on record stating that he would make things very difficult for anything to go through by the opposition.  He means what he says.  He'd screw up something that he wrote even if the dems supported it, he is that vengeful. I'm shocked he said that out in public and people will still vote for him?  It really is party first and country second.

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  • Posts: 41,359
    dankind said:
    "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."
    --Mitch McConnell

    A leopard can't change its spots.
    Filibuster has been around wayyyyy longer than Mitch or Obama.  James Stewart was talking about this in a damn movie in 1939 and it was around before then.

    I would say that the comment was meant to eliminate a dem from office rather than because he was black but eh, I don't think everyone is a racist.
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    Filibuster has been around wayyyyy longer than Mitch or Obama.  James Stewart was talking about this in a damn movie in 1939 and it was around before then.

    I would say that the comment was meant to eliminate a dem from office rather than because he was black but eh, I don't think everyone is a racist.
    The filibuster wasn’t always racist. But it has been used over the years to suppress civil rights. 

  • Posts: 41,359
    The filibuster wasn’t always racist. But it has been used over the years to suppress civil rights. 

    Strom Thurmond did a doozy with a filibuster at one time too.
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    Strom Thurmond also did a doozy with his black house keeper, having a child that he never publicly acknowledge while alive. Nice family values kind of guy, that Strom.
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    Strom Thurmond also did a doozy with his black house keeper, having a child that he never publicly acknowledge while alive. Nice family values kind of guy, that Strom.
    That’s the GOP for ya. 
  • Posts: 5,072
    edited March 2021
    Fillibuster racist?  It's a means of blocking a bill from being passed or counted, not sure how it's racist?  Or is it because of everything else mentioned in the proposed bill?

    Asking a question.

    Also if the fillibuster goes you'll have Mitch on record stating that he would make things very difficult for anything to go through by the opposition.  He means what he says.  He'd screw up something that he wrote even if the dems supported it, he is that vengeful. I'm shocked he said that out in public and people will still vote for him?  It really is party first and country second.

    Being a product of American democracy designed by wealthy white men trying to evade taxes and make their livings off the backs of people with different colored skin makes it as inherently racist as any part of our government I guess.   While it may not be an exclusively racist tactic it has certainly been used a majority of the time to block progress and civil rights legislation.
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  • Posts: 41,359
    static111 said:
    Being a product of American democracy designed by wealthy white men trying to evade taxes and make their livings off the backs of people with different colored skin makes it as inherently racist as any part of our government I guess.   While it may not be an exclusively racist tactic it has certainly been used a majority of the time to block progress and civil rights legislation.
    Since you put it that way, the constitution is racist too then?
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    Since you put it that way, the constitution is racist too then?

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    edited March 2021
    Since you put it that way, the constitution is racist too then?
    Sexist too, it only allowed white men to vote. 
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    Sexist too, it only allowed white men to vote. 

    elitist too. only property owners could vote.....
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  • Posts: 5,072
    Since you put it that way, the constitution is racist too then?
    I mean the whole thing is built on it so yeah.  We as a society have been making it better, in fits and starts, but I fear we may not be able to do enough before it’s too late.  
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    mickeyrat said:

    elitist too. only property owners could vote.....

    Yup; HCR's newsletter about how the southern politicians handled reconstruction was really eye opening.

  • Posts: 41,359
    edited March 2021
    They didn't make amendments to the above to be inclusive?

    The last 100 years has been about erasing the previous 300.

    Edit: I only think of the modern day constitution.  
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