Capitol Riots 2

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    mickeyrat said:
     This man is wanted by the FBI for gouging out the eye of a U.S. Capitol police officer during the attack on the Capitol. The officer lost his eye.
     
    If anyone recognizes this man PLEASE call the FBI Most Wanted  1-800-225-5324 or submit a tip online at tips.fbi.gov
    Or call your local FBI Photograph #150 -AFO

    Steven King?!
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    mickeyrat said:
     This man is wanted by the FBI for gouging out the eye of a U.S. Capitol police officer during the attack on the Capitol. The officer lost his eye.
     
    If anyone recognizes this man PLEASE call the FBI Most Wanted  1-800-225-5324 or submit a tip online at tips.fbi.gov
    Or call your local FBI Photograph #150 -AFO

    It's really amazing the amount of silence there has been about this from the blue lives matter and "patriots" crowd among the Trumplicans. Thank goodness the suspect is a white male who was trying to save our country or he'd have already been shot dead at the scene.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,088
    tbergs said:
    mickeyrat said:
     This man is wanted by the FBI for gouging out the eye of a U.S. Capitol police officer during the attack on the Capitol. The officer lost his eye.
     
    If anyone recognizes this man PLEASE call the FBI Most Wanted  1-800-225-5324 or submit a tip online at tips.fbi.gov
    Or call your local FBI Photograph #150 -AFO

    It's really amazing the amount of silence there has been about this from the blue lives matter and "patriots" crowd among the Trumplicans. Thank goodness the suspect is a white male who was trying to save our country or he'd have already been shot dead at the scene.
    Because it wasn’t patriots or trumpists, it was antifa infiltrators and false flag deep state agents duh!
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,190
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,190
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
    Not buying it?  He said it.  He tweeted it.  
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
    Not buying it?  He said it.  He tweeted it.  
    I'm sorry, his speech that day.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,788
    The defense doesn't matter, there are co-conspirators on the jury. 

    The fix is in. 
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
    Not buying it?  He said it.  He tweeted it.  
    I'm sorry, his speech that day.
    But the speech that day isn't the focus or the impetus for the insurrection. His speech that day was just the tipping point in a long and deliberate campaign by Trump and his allies to instill the mentality that the election was a fraud and stolen. He'd stoked it for months leading up to that. You should read the recaps of Raskin and the other managers case the last few days if you weren't able to follow it live. If anyone can actually look at that mountain of evidence and acquit, they're not being impartial.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
    They planned on it cause they were listening to him all along.  Then he made sure they were in town on that specific day.  Then he told them to march down PA ave.  Then he told them to be strong, nothing comes from weakness.  Then when told that Pence was in danger and being moved, he tweeted about how Pence let him down.  

    The mental gymnastics being done by Rep Senators to not vote to convict are going to cause a lot of hammy pulls.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    tbergs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
    Not buying it?  He said it.  He tweeted it.  
    I'm sorry, his speech that day.
    But the speech that day isn't the focus or the impetus for the insurrection. His speech that day was just the tipping point in a long and deliberate campaign by Trump and his allies to instill the mentality that the election was a fraud and stolen. He'd stoked it for months leading up to that. You should read the recaps of Raskin and the other managers case the last few days if you weren't able to follow it live. If anyone can actually look at that mountain of evidence and acquit, they're not being impartial.
    I have been keeping up with it as much as I can.  The BBC has a good article on the timeline of things.

    What I am finding disturbing is that all these people took it upon themselves to start organizing and going after poll workers and the stroming of the capitol.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    tempo_n_groove said:
    tbergs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
    Not buying it?  He said it.  He tweeted it.  
    I'm sorry, his speech that day.
    But the speech that day isn't the focus or the impetus for the insurrection. His speech that day was just the tipping point in a long and deliberate campaign by Trump and his allies to instill the mentality that the election was a fraud and stolen. He'd stoked it for months leading up to that. You should read the recaps of Raskin and the other managers case the last few days if you weren't able to follow it live. If anyone can actually look at that mountain of evidence and acquit, they're not being impartial.
    I have been keeping up with it as much as I can.  The BBC has a good article on the timeline of things.

    What I am finding disturbing is that all these people took it upon themselves to start organizing and going after poll workers and the stroming of the capitol.
    They were consistently emboldened by Trump over the last 4.5 years. Any other president, and this doesn't happen, but he fed those fucks the shit they needed to feel like they were the allies and the rest of us are Nazis. The hypocrisy is unbelievable.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,788
    tempo_n_groove said:
    tbergs said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
    Not buying it?  He said it.  He tweeted it.  
    I'm sorry, his speech that day.
    But the speech that day isn't the focus or the impetus for the insurrection. His speech that day was just the tipping point in a long and deliberate campaign by Trump and his allies to instill the mentality that the election was a fraud and stolen. He'd stoked it for months leading up to that. You should read the recaps of Raskin and the other managers case the last few days if you weren't able to follow it live. If anyone can actually look at that mountain of evidence and acquit, they're not being impartial.
    I have been keeping up with it as much as I can.  The BBC has a good article on the timeline of things.

    What I am finding disturbing is that all these people took it upon themselves to start organizing and going after poll workers and the stroming of the capitol.
    "Took it upon themselves"

    They were following the not so subtle direction of their dear leader every step of the way. 


    People have been predicting since day one that Trump's rhetoric would lead to violence & they were right. This was seen coming from miles away. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,088
    edited February 2021
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
    Without the rally, none of this would have happened and they wouldn’t have had the cover of the whole crowd, so without trump inciting the crowd, the preplanners wouldn’t have been able to do anything.
    Post edited by static111 on
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    I forget who characterized it this way and I'm sure they said it better but I agree with the idea that "victim" trump had been loading the gun for two months with The Big Lie about winning the election and then, at the rally, he cocked the gun and fired it directly at the Congress who were counting the electoral votes; then he also attacked his vice president. 



    Falling down,...not staying down
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    static111 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
    Without the rally, none of this would have happened and they wouldn’t have had the cover of the whole crowd, so without trump inciting the crowd, the preplanners wouldn’t have been able to do anything.
    Trump didn't plan the rally from what I can see though.  The people did.

    Someone brought up Manson before in an argument about what Trump says and how it can be perceived so that is back to that point again.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,788
    tempo_n_groove said:
    static111 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
    Without the rally, none of this would have happened and they wouldn’t have had the cover of the whole crowd, so without trump inciting the crowd, the preplanners wouldn’t have been able to do anything.
    Trump didn't plan the rally from what I can see though.  The people did.

    Someone brought up Manson before in an argument about what Trump says and how it can be perceived so that is back to that point again.
    According to Forbes, Trump’s campaign funded the rally. 

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,625
    tempo_n_groove said:
    static111 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
    Without the rally, none of this would have happened and they wouldn’t have had the cover of the whole crowd, so without trump inciting the crowd, the preplanners wouldn’t have been able to do anything.
    Trump didn't plan the rally from what I can see though.  The people did.

    Someone brought up Manson before in an argument about what Trump says and how it can be perceived so that is back to that point again.
    Really what do you think they spoke about in the meeting on 1/5 @ Trump hotel suite? Who was bringing Dunking Donuts and coffee to the rally? yeah sure he didn’t incite 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    tempo_n_groove said:
    static111 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    It will be interesting to see what tRump's defense is.  I've heard that they are going to bring up violence at BLM protests as if that matters.
    I heard they're also going to hammer on 1st amendment rights and that the term "fight" wasn't inciting.
    With all these new articles coming out it appears a bunch of these groups had planned on doing this all along.  I am not buying too much of Trump incited this anymore.  These loons were storming no matter what.
    Without the rally, none of this would have happened and they wouldn’t have had the cover of the whole crowd, so without trump inciting the crowd, the preplanners wouldn’t have been able to do anything.
    Trump didn't plan the rally from what I can see though.  The people did.

    Someone brought up Manson before in an argument about what Trump says and how it can be perceived so that is back to that point again.
    Really? Sheesh. It's likely you're trying really hard to put this on everyone else except the person who initiated the reason it was even planned in the first place. And yes, this is a lot like what Manson did. Manipulate people with lies and false information until they can't see the difference between their asshole and mouth. Trump abused his position and influence over weak minded idiots and extremists who saw an opening to hide behind his unchecked rhetoric.
    It's a hopeless situation...

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