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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,016
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    Stimulus checks

    I have no problem with them lowering the income level to $50,000-$100,000 as far as which individuals/families receive this money. Anyone who has been working all along since the pandemic started, and has not suffered financially because of this pandemic, really doesnt need the stimulus checks to begin with, right? My wife and I have not skipped a beat since the pandemic started. We realize we are blessed in that regard. Did her and I really need those 1st 2 stimulus checks? Of course not. 

    Now lets hope our government uses some common sense in regards to sending these checks out. If someone made $52K in 2019 yet was laid off for the entire year of 2020, then by all means give this person some help! I dont want to hear that they are going to base these checks on your 2019 tax returns. That would be fucking ridiculous. That would be asinine. That would be fucking insane. 

    Which probably means our government will base the stimulus checks on our 2019 tax returns. 
    How would the govt know who lost a job in 2020, but were over the income threshold in 19? Unemployment is state run.  This might be challenging. 
    Every paycheck or unemployment check I received in 2020 had federal taxes deducted.  How do they not already have this info?
    Self employed or those who’s primary income are tips among other groups would be screwed if they just relied on paystubs for information.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,958
    Was listening to Morning Joe on MSNBC on the radio this morning.  He and a guest discussing how terrible an idea it is to blankly give checks to people.  Not targeted, might cause inflation later.... Smart people.  ;)

    Nice to have a liberal leaning (albeit conservative leaning host) news station talking an issue and not just agreeing with liberals.  Refreshing.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,965
    cincybearcat said:
    Was listening to Morning Joe on MSNBC on the radio this morning.  He and a guest discussing how terrible an idea it is to blankly give checks to people.  Not targeted, might cause inflation later.... Smart people.  ;)

    Nice to have a liberal leaning (albeit conservative leaning host) news station talking an issue and not just agreeing with liberals.  Refreshing.
    I do like contrarion opinions,  but I think worrying about inflation right now is far fetched. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,958
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Was listening to Morning Joe on MSNBC on the radio this morning.  He and a guest discussing how terrible an idea it is to blankly give checks to people.  Not targeted, might cause inflation later.... Smart people.  ;)

    Nice to have a liberal leaning (albeit conservative leaning host) news station talking an issue and not just agreeing with liberals.  Refreshing.
    I do like contrarion opinions,  but I think worrying about inflation right now is far fetched. 
    Was just 1 of many reasons.  I typed it and almost deleted it because I knew this post was coming.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,965
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Was listening to Morning Joe on MSNBC on the radio this morning.  He and a guest discussing how terrible an idea it is to blankly give checks to people.  Not targeted, might cause inflation later.... Smart people.  ;)

    Nice to have a liberal leaning (albeit conservative leaning host) news station talking an issue and not just agreeing with liberals.  Refreshing.
    I do like contrarion opinions,  but I think worrying about inflation right now is far fetched. 
    Was just 1 of many reasons.  I typed it and almost deleted it because I knew this post was coming.
    ahaha. See I'm a contrarian.  I was against the 1400 to start but I read some analysis from economists and they are just about universal that having a broader stimulus will bring us back to full employment many months before a more narrow one.  While I have mixed feelings on the $15 min wage, I don't think it should go through reconciliation.  I understand why Biden is doing it, and if the senate were less obstructive I wouldn't worry too much about it right now.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2021
    As far as evictions and utilities go, are the rental property owners going to get any extra $?  If not, they should if they are having to keep non-paying renters housed, right? 
  • Gern Blansten
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  • mickeyrat
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    Gern Blansten said:


    just shows how fucking stupid they think their viewers are.....
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  • Merkin Baller
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    edited February 2021
    mickeyrat said:
    Gern Blansten said:


    just shows how fucking stupid they think their viewers are.....
    "just shows how fucking stupid they think their viewers are....."





    Fixed it for ya
  • mickeyrat
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    Merkin Baller said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Gern Blansten said:


    just shows how fucking stupid they think their viewers are.....
    "just shows how fucking stupid they think their viewers are....."





    Fixed it for ya

    you say potayto......
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  • cincybearcat
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    static111 said:
    tbergs said:
    They can't send any checks until the middle of the year if you wait for 2020 earnings filings. I mean, people understand that, right? I think they send what they stated now and reassess another more targeted round mid-year.
    The irs already has all of your tax info.  I mean they do get sent the money whenever I get a check. if they can’t look at that to figure out who was hurt by this pandemic with all the data they already have  it seems like they are a pretty worthless organization
    Agree.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,958
    PJPOWER said:
    As far as evictions and utilities go, are the rental property owners going to get any extra $?  If not, they should if they are having to keep non-paying renters housed, right? 
    They should.  And it would be better to send it to them and keep people in their apartments, etc.  
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,129
    cincybearcat said:
    static111 said:
    tbergs said:
    They can't send any checks until the middle of the year if you wait for 2020 earnings filings. I mean, people understand that, right? I think they send what they stated now and reassess another more targeted round mid-year.
    The irs already has all of your tax info.  I mean they do get sent the money whenever I get a check. if they can’t look at that to figure out who was hurt by this pandemic with all the data they already have  it seems like they are a pretty worthless organization
    Agree.

    sems like you assume they have the most up to date tech....
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  • tbergs
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    cincybearcat said:
    PJPOWER said:
    As far as evictions and utilities go, are the rental property owners going to get any extra $?  If not, they should if they are having to keep non-paying renters housed, right? 
    They should.  And it would be better to send it to them and keep people in their apartments, etc.  
    As someone mentioned earlier, that would only include reported income through W2. Either way, I'm not sure why everyone thinks it would be so simple for them to just pull all that info on a whim to send checks appropriately.

    I have been skeptical of the 1,400 blanket amount, but I honestly think it would be a more efficient way to just get it done so the rest of the stimulus relief gets put in effect. In the big picture of things, the benefits far outweigh the cons at this point.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,958
    tbergs said:
    cincybearcat said:
    PJPOWER said:
    As far as evictions and utilities go, are the rental property owners going to get any extra $?  If not, they should if they are having to keep non-paying renters housed, right? 
    They should.  And it would be better to send it to them and keep people in their apartments, etc.  
    As someone mentioned earlier, that would only include reported income through W2. Either way, I'm not sure why everyone thinks it would be so simple for them to just pull all that info on a whim to send checks appropriately.

    I have been skeptical of the 1,400 blanket amount, but I honestly think it would be a more efficient way to just get it done so the rest of the stimulus relief gets put in effect. In the big picture of things, the benefits far outweigh the cons at this point.
    As I have said, I wouldn't be sending any check like this so the IRS point doesn't actually matter.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Gern Blansten said:

    Fake news. Everyone knows President Biden takes AmTrak. Coach class.
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  • mrussel1
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    cincybearcat said:
    tbergs said:
    cincybearcat said:
    PJPOWER said:
    As far as evictions and utilities go, are the rental property owners going to get any extra $?  If not, they should if they are having to keep non-paying renters housed, right? 
    They should.  And it would be better to send it to them and keep people in their apartments, etc.  
    As someone mentioned earlier, that would only include reported income through W2. Either way, I'm not sure why everyone thinks it would be so simple for them to just pull all that info on a whim to send checks appropriately.

    I have been skeptical of the 1,400 blanket amount, but I honestly think it would be a more efficient way to just get it done so the rest of the stimulus relief gets put in effect. In the big picture of things, the benefits far outweigh the cons at this point.
    As I have said, I wouldn't be sending any check like this so the IRS point doesn't actually matter.
    Huh?  I don't understand this sentence.  Non-W2 employees is a huge impediment to getting the right money to the right people trying to use 2020 income. 
  • Gern Blansten
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    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    tbergs said:
    cincybearcat said:
    PJPOWER said:
    As far as evictions and utilities go, are the rental property owners going to get any extra $?  If not, they should if they are having to keep non-paying renters housed, right? 
    They should.  And it would be better to send it to them and keep people in their apartments, etc.  
    As someone mentioned earlier, that would only include reported income through W2. Either way, I'm not sure why everyone thinks it would be so simple for them to just pull all that info on a whim to send checks appropriately.

    I have been skeptical of the 1,400 blanket amount, but I honestly think it would be a more efficient way to just get it done so the rest of the stimulus relief gets put in effect. In the big picture of things, the benefits far outweigh the cons at this point.
    As I have said, I wouldn't be sending any check like this so the IRS point doesn't actually matter.
    Huh?  I don't understand this sentence.  Non-W2 employees is a huge impediment to getting the right money to the right people trying to use 2020 income. 
    yeah and someone can have a 1099-NEC for $200K yet only make $30K net.
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  • mrussel1
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    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    tbergs said:
    cincybearcat said:
    PJPOWER said:
    As far as evictions and utilities go, are the rental property owners going to get any extra $?  If not, they should if they are having to keep non-paying renters housed, right? 
    They should.  And it would be better to send it to them and keep people in their apartments, etc.  
    As someone mentioned earlier, that would only include reported income through W2. Either way, I'm not sure why everyone thinks it would be so simple for them to just pull all that info on a whim to send checks appropriately.

    I have been skeptical of the 1,400 blanket amount, but I honestly think it would be a more efficient way to just get it done so the rest of the stimulus relief gets put in effect. In the big picture of things, the benefits far outweigh the cons at this point.
    As I have said, I wouldn't be sending any check like this so the IRS point doesn't actually matter.
    Huh?  I don't understand this sentence.  Non-W2 employees is a huge impediment to getting the right money to the right people trying to use 2020 income. 
    yeah and someone can have a 1099-NEC for $200K yet only make $30K net.
    Right,  that's why they use AGI. It's too early for 2020 numbers and we can't wait. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,958
    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    tbergs said:
    cincybearcat said:
    PJPOWER said:
    As far as evictions and utilities go, are the rental property owners going to get any extra $?  If not, they should if they are having to keep non-paying renters housed, right? 
    They should.  And it would be better to send it to them and keep people in their apartments, etc.  
    As someone mentioned earlier, that would only include reported income through W2. Either way, I'm not sure why everyone thinks it would be so simple for them to just pull all that info on a whim to send checks appropriately.

    I have been skeptical of the 1,400 blanket amount, but I honestly think it would be a more efficient way to just get it done so the rest of the stimulus relief gets put in effect. In the big picture of things, the benefits far outweigh the cons at this point.
    As I have said, I wouldn't be sending any check like this so the IRS point doesn't actually matter.
    Huh?  I don't understand this sentence.  Non-W2 employees is a huge impediment to getting the right money to the right people trying to use 2020 income. 
    yeah and someone can have a 1099-NEC for $200K yet only make $30K net.
    Right,  that's why they use AGI. It's too early for 2020 numbers and we can't wait. 
    I said I wouldn't be sending random checks to people who may or may not have been effected financially due to the pandemic.  What don't you understand?
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