#46 President Joe Biden
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HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:HughFreakingDillon said:i think you guys are setting the bar a bit low on this. i'm not comparing her to the sludge that trump employed. i'm talking about just doing the job as it is meant to be.
I get it that it can be considered somewhat loose with the press, especially with dodging of questions, I guess I just assumed the role would be a touch more dignified than that.0 -
Opinions on the stimulus plan? I think Biden has lived up (thus far) to his commitment to negotiate with the GOP. Things are moving fast and what I read today is that he's open to dialing back the $1400 to a narrower group of people. It's not clear whether a broader group will get a smaller check. Either way, I think so far he's struck a good balance between negotiating, but still pushing the House forward.
I don't think the min wage gets through because Manchin isn't voting for it. So if it's in the bill, and everything goes party line, it won't get through even with reconciliation. Plus, I don't see how you justify min wage going through reconciliation.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/537129-biden-commits-to-1400-checks-in-call-to-house-democrats
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mrussel1 said:Opinions on the stimulus plan? I think Biden has lived up (thus far) to his commitment to negotiate with the GOP. Things are moving fast and what I read today is that he's open to dialing back the $1400 to a narrower group of people. It's not clear whether a broader group will get a smaller check. Either way, I think so far he's struck a good balance between negotiating, but still pushing the House forward.
I don't think the min wage gets through because Manchin isn't voting for it. So if it's in the bill, and everything goes party line, it won't get through even with reconciliation. Plus, I don't see how you justify min wage going through reconciliation.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/537129-biden-commits-to-1400-checks-in-call-to-house-democratsIt's a hopeless situation...0 -
With all due respect to joe I think lowering the income threshold for the checks is a bad idea, especially if you are going by 2019 or 2018 taxes still. We are in 2021. Let’s at the least use the 2020 tax figures. Like if couples made combined let’s say 110k in 2018-2019 and then made like 70000or less In 2020 are they going to get fucked? Additionally if the bar gets so low income wise that only those living just above poverty gets a check well that makes a pretty good case for UBI for people making under a certain threshold, which I am all for. The checks were part of what delivered the senate, don’t shit on the checks and don’t add fucking means testing to the checks, especially when people are financially ravaged, covid fatigued and pissed of in general. It isn’t worth pleasing manchin and the republicans now just to lose votes in 2022. That’s my take at least. And the minimum wage thing. I don’t even know how anyone could think that people don’t deserve at least 15 for doing any kind of work. And yes I believe if you can’t pay living wages then your business probably isn’t providing a worthwhile service.Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:With all due respect to joe I think lowering the income threshold for the checks is a bad idea, especially if you are going by 2019 or 2018 taxes still. We are in 2021. Let’s at the least use the 2020 tax figures. Like if couples made combined let’s say 110k in 2018-2019 and then made like 70000or less In 2020 are they going to get fucked? Additionally if the bar gets so low income wise that only those living just above poverty gets a check well that makes a pretty good case for UBI for people making under a certain threshold, which I am all for. The checks were part of what delivered the senate, don’t shit on the checks and don’t add fucking means testing to the checks, especially when people are financially ravaged, covid fatigued and pissed of in general. It isn’t worth pleasing manchin and the republicans now just to lose votes in 2022. That’s my take at least. And the minimum wage thing. I don’t even know how anyone could think that people don’t deserve at least 15 for doing any kind of work. And yes I believe if you can’t pay living wages then your business probably isn’t providing a worthwhile service.
The problem with Machin right now is that if he votes against it, it doesn't matter if you move it through reconciliation or not. You have to get one GOP vote otherwise nothing passes.0 -
mrussel1 said:static111 said:With all due respect to joe I think lowering the income threshold for the checks is a bad idea, especially if you are going by 2019 or 2018 taxes still. We are in 2021. Let’s at the least use the 2020 tax figures. Like if couples made combined let’s say 110k in 2018-2019 and then made like 70000or less In 2020 are they going to get fucked? Additionally if the bar gets so low income wise that only those living just above poverty gets a check well that makes a pretty good case for UBI for people making under a certain threshold, which I am all for. The checks were part of what delivered the senate, don’t shit on the checks and don’t add fucking means testing to the checks, especially when people are financially ravaged, covid fatigued and pissed of in general. It isn’t worth pleasing manchin and the republicans now just to lose votes in 2022. That’s my take at least. And the minimum wage thing. I don’t even know how anyone could think that people don’t deserve at least 15 for doing any kind of work. And yes I believe if you can’t pay living wages then your business probably isn’t providing a worthwhile service.
The problem with Machin right now is that if he votes against it, it doesn't matter if you move it through reconciliation or not. You have to get one GOP vote otherwise nothing passes.Scio me nihil scire
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Sending checks to people that haven;t lost their jobs or any hours is just complete nonsense and lazy. Sending the same amount of $ to someone in rural Iowa/Kansas/Wyoming as NYC is just more lazy nonsense.hippiemom = goodness0
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For fuck's sake the fact that trump wanted his signature on the checks previously should tell you all you need to know about the the only reason that lazy ass effort is the one they are choosing.hippiemom = goodness0
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static111 said:mrussel1 said:static111 said:With all due respect to joe I think lowering the income threshold for the checks is a bad idea, especially if you are going by 2019 or 2018 taxes still. We are in 2021. Let’s at the least use the 2020 tax figures. Like if couples made combined let’s say 110k in 2018-2019 and then made like 70000or less In 2020 are they going to get fucked? Additionally if the bar gets so low income wise that only those living just above poverty gets a check well that makes a pretty good case for UBI for people making under a certain threshold, which I am all for. The checks were part of what delivered the senate, don’t shit on the checks and don’t add fucking means testing to the checks, especially when people are financially ravaged, covid fatigued and pissed of in general. It isn’t worth pleasing manchin and the republicans now just to lose votes in 2022. That’s my take at least. And the minimum wage thing. I don’t even know how anyone could think that people don’t deserve at least 15 for doing any kind of work. And yes I believe if you can’t pay living wages then your business probably isn’t providing a worthwhile service.
The problem with Machin right now is that if he votes against it, it doesn't matter if you move it through reconciliation or not. You have to get one GOP vote otherwise nothing passes.0 -
mrussel1 said:static111 said:mrussel1 said:static111 said:With all due respect to joe I think lowering the income threshold for the checks is a bad idea, especially if you are going by 2019 or 2018 taxes still. We are in 2021. Let’s at the least use the 2020 tax figures. Like if couples made combined let’s say 110k in 2018-2019 and then made like 70000or less In 2020 are they going to get fucked? Additionally if the bar gets so low income wise that only those living just above poverty gets a check well that makes a pretty good case for UBI for people making under a certain threshold, which I am all for. The checks were part of what delivered the senate, don’t shit on the checks and don’t add fucking means testing to the checks, especially when people are financially ravaged, covid fatigued and pissed of in general. It isn’t worth pleasing manchin and the republicans now just to lose votes in 2022. That’s my take at least. And the minimum wage thing. I don’t even know how anyone could think that people don’t deserve at least 15 for doing any kind of work. And yes I believe if you can’t pay living wages then your business probably isn’t providing a worthwhile service.
The problem with Machin right now is that if he votes against it, it doesn't matter if you move it through reconciliation or not. You have to get one GOP vote otherwise nothing passes.Scio me nihil scire
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cincybearcat said:Sending checks to people that haven;t lost their jobs or any hours is just complete nonsense and lazy. Sending the same amount of $ to someone in rural Iowa/Kansas/Wyoming as NYC is just more lazy nonsense.Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:cincybearcat said:Sending checks to people that haven;t lost their jobs or any hours is just complete nonsense and lazy. Sending the same amount of $ to someone in rural Iowa/Kansas/Wyoming as NYC is just more lazy nonsense.0
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static111 said:cincybearcat said:Sending checks to people that haven;t lost their jobs or any hours is just complete nonsense and lazy. Sending the same amount of $ to someone in rural Iowa/Kansas/Wyoming as NYC is just more lazy nonsense.hippiemom = goodness0
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mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tbergs said:HughFreakingDillon said:i think you guys are setting the bar a bit low on this. i'm not comparing her to the sludge that trump employed. i'm talking about just doing the job as it is meant to be.
I get it that it can be considered somewhat loose with the press, especially with dodging of questions, I guess I just assumed the role would be a touch more dignified than that.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
mrussel1 said:static111 said:cincybearcat said:Sending checks to people that haven;t lost their jobs or any hours is just complete nonsense and lazy. Sending the same amount of $ to someone in rural Iowa/Kansas/Wyoming as NYC is just more lazy nonsense.Scio me nihil scire
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cincybearcat said:static111 said:cincybearcat said:Sending checks to people that haven;t lost their jobs or any hours is just complete nonsense and lazy. Sending the same amount of $ to someone in rural Iowa/Kansas/Wyoming as NYC is just more lazy nonsense.Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:cincybearcat said:static111 said:cincybearcat said:Sending checks to people that haven;t lost their jobs or any hours is just complete nonsense and lazy. Sending the same amount of $ to someone in rural Iowa/Kansas/Wyoming as NYC is just more lazy nonsense.
So I just want to be clear, I am not concerned about spending too much money....just wasting some while not actually helping hardly anyonehippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:static111 said:cincybearcat said:static111 said:cincybearcat said:Sending checks to people that haven;t lost their jobs or any hours is just complete nonsense and lazy. Sending the same amount of $ to someone in rural Iowa/Kansas/Wyoming as NYC is just more lazy nonsense.
So I just want to be clear, I am not concerned about spending too much money....just wasting some while not actually helping hardly anyoneBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
static111 said:mrussel1 said:static111 said:cincybearcat said:Sending checks to people that haven;t lost their jobs or any hours is just complete nonsense and lazy. Sending the same amount of $ to someone in rural Iowa/Kansas/Wyoming as NYC is just more lazy nonsense.0
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mrussel1 said:static111 said:mrussel1 said:static111 said:cincybearcat said:Sending checks to people that haven;t lost their jobs or any hours is just complete nonsense and lazy. Sending the same amount of $ to someone in rural Iowa/Kansas/Wyoming as NYC is just more lazy nonsense.hippiemom = goodness0
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