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Imagine what he could do with a receiver like DeAndre Hopkins. Just imagine.The Juggler said:
Agreed. And he still up great numbers on a bad team. Imagine him with all kinds of talent? WhooooboyGlorified KC said:Watson is definitely worth it. He just needs to go to a franchise that has half of a brain. The Houston Texans are a steaming pile of poo in a dumpster fire.This weekend we rock Portland0 -
Ha....yeah. Knew that was coming right after I posted that. The crazy thing is his numbers were significantly better after losing him. He's becoming a better qb. As he continues to mature and is surrounded by better talent....the sky is the limit...Poncier said:
Imagine what he could do with a receiver like DeAndre Hopkins. Just imagine.The Juggler said:
Agreed. And he still up great numbers on a bad team. Imagine him with all kinds of talent? WhooooboyGlorified KC said:Watson is definitely worth it. He just needs to go to a franchise that has half of a brain. The Houston Texans are a steaming pile of poo in a dumpster fire.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
Sometimes losing your top receiver opens up the playbook. It's gotta be some sort of silver lining for a QB to not have to worry about getting his superstar receiver his targets. Especially because that the biggest divas in the NFL are almost always wide receivers. Look at Baker Mayfield after Odell went down. Also, sometimes the defense is just straight dookie regardless of how good the QB is. Which I think is also the case in Houston. LolThe Juggler said:
Ha....yeah. Knew that was coming right after I posted that. The crazy thing is his numbers were significantly better after losing him. He's becoming a better qb. As he continues to mature and is surrounded by better talent....the sky is the limit...Poncier said:
Imagine what he could do with a receiver like DeAndre Hopkins. Just imagine.The Juggler said:
Agreed. And he still up great numbers on a bad team. Imagine him with all kinds of talent? WhooooboyGlorified KC said:Watson is definitely worth it. He just needs to go to a franchise that has half of a brain. The Houston Texans are a steaming pile of poo in a dumpster fire.0 -
The OBJ example is perfect. The Browns had to game plan to get him the ball lest he just check out by the middle of the 2nd quarter. Baker played much better with a less selfish group. I don't know what the Browns do next year, but I would be perfectly fine if we were able to move him for a pair of serviceable LB's or an elite one.crookedcross said:
Sometimes losing your top receiver opens up the playbook. It's gotta be some sort of silver lining for a QB to not have to worry about getting his superstar receiver his targets. Especially because that the biggest divas in the NFL are almost always wide receivers. Look at Baker Mayfield after Odell went down. Also, sometimes the defense is just straight dookie regardless of how good the QB is. Which I think is also the case in Houston. LolThe Juggler said:
Ha....yeah. Knew that was coming right after I posted that. The crazy thing is his numbers were significantly better after losing him. He's becoming a better qb. As he continues to mature and is surrounded by better talent....the sky is the limit...Poncier said:
Imagine what he could do with a receiver like DeAndre Hopkins. Just imagine.The Juggler said:
Agreed. And he still up great numbers on a bad team. Imagine him with all kinds of talent? WhooooboyGlorified KC said:Watson is definitely worth it. He just needs to go to a franchise that has half of a brain. The Houston Texans are a steaming pile of poo in a dumpster fire.0 -
Browns still had weapons though. Watson had a washed up David Johnson, Brandon Cooks and a hill of kidney beans.mrussel1 said:
The OBJ example is perfect. The Browns had to game plan to get him the ball lest he just check out by the middle of the 2nd quarter. Baker played much better with a less selfish group. I don't know what the Browns do next year, but I would be perfectly fine if we were able to move him for a pair of serviceable LB's or an elite one.crookedcross said:
Sometimes losing your top receiver opens up the playbook. It's gotta be some sort of silver lining for a QB to not have to worry about getting his superstar receiver his targets. Especially because that the biggest divas in the NFL are almost always wide receivers. Look at Baker Mayfield after Odell went down. Also, sometimes the defense is just straight dookie regardless of how good the QB is. Which I think is also the case in Houston. LolThe Juggler said:
Ha....yeah. Knew that was coming right after I posted that. The crazy thing is his numbers were significantly better after losing him. He's becoming a better qb. As he continues to mature and is surrounded by better talent....the sky is the limit...Poncier said:
Imagine what he could do with a receiver like DeAndre Hopkins. Just imagine.The Juggler said:
Agreed. And he still up great numbers on a bad team. Imagine him with all kinds of talent? WhooooboyGlorified KC said:Watson is definitely worth it. He just needs to go to a franchise that has half of a brain. The Houston Texans are a steaming pile of poo in a dumpster fire.www.myspace.com0 -
Wobbie said:Cliffy6745 said:Also, tony romo stinks
he’s better than “hello, friends” nantz, squeaky wolfson and that terrible studio crew (save for nate burleson).
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I'm not arguing that. Just saying that having a great receiver can cause other issues.The Juggler said:
Browns still had weapons though. Watson had a washed up David Johnson, Brandon Cooks and a hill of kidney beans.mrussel1 said:
The OBJ example is perfect. The Browns had to game plan to get him the ball lest he just check out by the middle of the 2nd quarter. Baker played much better with a less selfish group. I don't know what the Browns do next year, but I would be perfectly fine if we were able to move him for a pair of serviceable LB's or an elite one.crookedcross said:
Sometimes losing your top receiver opens up the playbook. It's gotta be some sort of silver lining for a QB to not have to worry about getting his superstar receiver his targets. Especially because that the biggest divas in the NFL are almost always wide receivers. Look at Baker Mayfield after Odell went down. Also, sometimes the defense is just straight dookie regardless of how good the QB is. Which I think is also the case in Houston. LolThe Juggler said:
Ha....yeah. Knew that was coming right after I posted that. The crazy thing is his numbers were significantly better after losing him. He's becoming a better qb. As he continues to mature and is surrounded by better talent....the sky is the limit...Poncier said:
Imagine what he could do with a receiver like DeAndre Hopkins. Just imagine.The Juggler said:
Agreed. And he still up great numbers on a bad team. Imagine him with all kinds of talent? WhooooboyGlorified KC said:Watson is definitely worth it. He just needs to go to a franchise that has half of a brain. The Houston Texans are a steaming pile of poo in a dumpster fire.0 -
I agree. My original point was just that Watson hardly had any weapons at all, not just that he was missing Hopkins this year....mrussel1 said:
I'm not arguing that. Just saying that having a great receiver can cause other issues.The Juggler said:
Browns still had weapons though. Watson had a washed up David Johnson, Brandon Cooks and a hill of kidney beans.mrussel1 said:
The OBJ example is perfect. The Browns had to game plan to get him the ball lest he just check out by the middle of the 2nd quarter. Baker played much better with a less selfish group. I don't know what the Browns do next year, but I would be perfectly fine if we were able to move him for a pair of serviceable LB's or an elite one.crookedcross said:
Sometimes losing your top receiver opens up the playbook. It's gotta be some sort of silver lining for a QB to not have to worry about getting his superstar receiver his targets. Especially because that the biggest divas in the NFL are almost always wide receivers. Look at Baker Mayfield after Odell went down. Also, sometimes the defense is just straight dookie regardless of how good the QB is. Which I think is also the case in Houston. LolThe Juggler said:
Ha....yeah. Knew that was coming right after I posted that. The crazy thing is his numbers were significantly better after losing him. He's becoming a better qb. As he continues to mature and is surrounded by better talent....the sky is the limit...Poncier said:
Imagine what he could do with a receiver like DeAndre Hopkins. Just imagine.The Juggler said:
Agreed. And he still up great numbers on a bad team. Imagine him with all kinds of talent? WhooooboyGlorified KC said:Watson is definitely worth it. He just needs to go to a franchise that has half of a brain. The Houston Texans are a steaming pile of poo in a dumpster fire.www.myspace.com0 -
Yeah there's no bitching by the prima donna receiver when he's the only one that can get open.The Juggler said:
I agree. My original point was just that Watson hardly had any weapons at all, not just that he was missing Hopkins this year....mrussel1 said:
I'm not arguing that. Just saying that having a great receiver can cause other issues.The Juggler said:
Browns still had weapons though. Watson had a washed up David Johnson, Brandon Cooks and a hill of kidney beans.mrussel1 said:
The OBJ example is perfect. The Browns had to game plan to get him the ball lest he just check out by the middle of the 2nd quarter. Baker played much better with a less selfish group. I don't know what the Browns do next year, but I would be perfectly fine if we were able to move him for a pair of serviceable LB's or an elite one.crookedcross said:
Sometimes losing your top receiver opens up the playbook. It's gotta be some sort of silver lining for a QB to not have to worry about getting his superstar receiver his targets. Especially because that the biggest divas in the NFL are almost always wide receivers. Look at Baker Mayfield after Odell went down. Also, sometimes the defense is just straight dookie regardless of how good the QB is. Which I think is also the case in Houston. LolThe Juggler said:
Ha....yeah. Knew that was coming right after I posted that. The crazy thing is his numbers were significantly better after losing him. He's becoming a better qb. As he continues to mature and is surrounded by better talent....the sky is the limit...Poncier said:
Imagine what he could do with a receiver like DeAndre Hopkins. Just imagine.The Juggler said:
Agreed. And he still up great numbers on a bad team. Imagine him with all kinds of talent? WhooooboyGlorified KC said:Watson is definitely worth it. He just needs to go to a franchise that has half of a brain. The Houston Texans are a steaming pile of poo in a dumpster fire.0 -
Sad to see Marty Schottenheimer have to live his last days with Alzheimer's. He was a great coach and it's too bad he didn't break through and win a Super Bowl.
I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.0 -
I went to school and played football with Brian Schottenheimer. He was a year younger than me. Nice enough kid. Anyways, my dad was a raving lunatic about the Browns and used to go up to him at games and criticize his play calling, mostly on the defensive side of the ball, for being too soft in coverage with a lead. Marty apparently took it in stride. He was a nice guy. My dad, less so.Glorified KC said:Sad to see Marty Schottenheimer have to live his last days with Alzheimer's. He was a great coach and it's too bad he didn't break through and win a Super Bowl.0 -
That's an awesome story.mrussel1 said:
I went to school and played football with Brian Schottenheimer. He was a year younger than me. Nice enough kid. Anyways, my dad was a raving lunatic about the Browns and used to go up to him at games and criticize his play calling, mostly on the defensive side of the ball, for being too soft in coverage with a lead. Marty apparently took it in stride. He was a nice guy. My dad, less so.Glorified KC said:Sad to see Marty Schottenheimer have to live his last days with Alzheimer's. He was a great coach and it's too bad he didn't break through and win a Super Bowl.
Your pops loves him some football. I love it.0 -
Yeah he was much older than me (45 when he had me) so he was steeped in the winning culture of the 50's and 60's Browns. The late 80's were a brief shining light in an otherwise dismal half century.Merkin Baller said:
That's an awesome story.mrussel1 said:
I went to school and played football with Brian Schottenheimer. He was a year younger than me. Nice enough kid. Anyways, my dad was a raving lunatic about the Browns and used to go up to him at games and criticize his play calling, mostly on the defensive side of the ball, for being too soft in coverage with a lead. Marty apparently took it in stride. He was a nice guy. My dad, less so.Glorified KC said:Sad to see Marty Schottenheimer have to live his last days with Alzheimer's. He was a great coach and it's too bad he didn't break through and win a Super Bowl.
Your pops loves him some football. I love it.0 -
Ha, I'm sure I was pretty obnoxious myself in the 90's while he was coaching the Chiefs. Probably a good thing I didn't get the opportunity to criticize him in person.mrussel1 said:
I went to school and played football with Brian Schottenheimer. He was a year younger than me. Nice enough kid. Anyways, my dad was a raving lunatic about the Browns and used to go up to him at games and criticize his play calling, mostly on the defensive side of the ball, for being too soft in coverage with a lead. Marty apparently took it in stride. He was a nice guy. My dad, less so.Glorified KC said:Sad to see Marty Schottenheimer have to live his last days with Alzheimer's. He was a great coach and it's too bad he didn't break through and win a Super Bowl.
I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.0 -
You weren't 60 years old though..Glorified KC said:
Ha, I'm sure I was pretty obnoxious myself in the 90's while he was coaching the Chiefs. Probably a good thing I didn't get the opportunity to criticize him in person.mrussel1 said:
I went to school and played football with Brian Schottenheimer. He was a year younger than me. Nice enough kid. Anyways, my dad was a raving lunatic about the Browns and used to go up to him at games and criticize his play calling, mostly on the defensive side of the ball, for being too soft in coverage with a lead. Marty apparently took it in stride. He was a nice guy. My dad, less so.Glorified KC said:Sad to see Marty Schottenheimer have to live his last days with Alzheimer's. He was a great coach and it's too bad he didn't break through and win a Super Bowl.0 -
How do you know that? j/kmrussel1 said:
You weren't 60 years old though..Glorified KC said:
Ha, I'm sure I was pretty obnoxious myself in the 90's while he was coaching the Chiefs. Probably a good thing I didn't get the opportunity to criticize him in person.mrussel1 said:
I went to school and played football with Brian Schottenheimer. He was a year younger than me. Nice enough kid. Anyways, my dad was a raving lunatic about the Browns and used to go up to him at games and criticize his play calling, mostly on the defensive side of the ball, for being too soft in coverage with a lead. Marty apparently took it in stride. He was a nice guy. My dad, less so.Glorified KC said:Sad to see Marty Schottenheimer have to live his last days with Alzheimer's. He was a great coach and it's too bad he didn't break through and win a Super Bowl.
I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.0 -
For this reason alone, I'm glad I was in my mid '20s before the Patriots started winning. I can vividly remember how much the late '80s / early '90s sucked.mrussel1 said:
Yeah he was much older than me (45 when he had me) so he was steeped in the winning culture of the 50's and 60's Browns. The late 80's were a brief shining light in an otherwise dismal half century.Merkin Baller said:
That's an awesome story.mrussel1 said:
I went to school and played football with Brian Schottenheimer. He was a year younger than me. Nice enough kid. Anyways, my dad was a raving lunatic about the Browns and used to go up to him at games and criticize his play calling, mostly on the defensive side of the ball, for being too soft in coverage with a lead. Marty apparently took it in stride. He was a nice guy. My dad, less so.Glorified KC said:Sad to see Marty Schottenheimer have to live his last days with Alzheimer's. He was a great coach and it's too bad he didn't break through and win a Super Bowl.
Your pops loves him some football. I love it.
Same for the Red Sox.
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I remember feeling sorry for the Pats for years. Eason, Grogan, etc. all looked fairly hapless. Although that snow plow game against the Dolphins was disappointing. I wasn't a fan of the Dolphins, but wanted to the Bears to lose the SB and knew the Pats had no chance.Merkin Baller said:
For this reason alone, I'm glad I was in my mid '20s before the Patriots started winning. I can vividly remember how much the late '80s / early '90s sucked.mrussel1 said:
Yeah he was much older than me (45 when he had me) so he was steeped in the winning culture of the 50's and 60's Browns. The late 80's were a brief shining light in an otherwise dismal half century.Merkin Baller said:
That's an awesome story.mrussel1 said:
I went to school and played football with Brian Schottenheimer. He was a year younger than me. Nice enough kid. Anyways, my dad was a raving lunatic about the Browns and used to go up to him at games and criticize his play calling, mostly on the defensive side of the ball, for being too soft in coverage with a lead. Marty apparently took it in stride. He was a nice guy. My dad, less so.Glorified KC said:Sad to see Marty Schottenheimer have to live his last days with Alzheimer's. He was a great coach and it's too bad he didn't break through and win a Super Bowl.
Your pops loves him some football. I love it.
Same for the Red Sox.0 -
mrussel1 said:
You weren't 60 years old though..Glorified KC said:
Ha, I'm sure I was pretty obnoxious myself in the 90's while he was coaching the Chiefs. Probably a good thing I didn't get the opportunity to criticize him in person.mrussel1 said:
I went to school and played football with Brian Schottenheimer. He was a year younger than me. Nice enough kid. Anyways, my dad was a raving lunatic about the Browns and used to go up to him at games and criticize his play calling, mostly on the defensive side of the ball, for being too soft in coverage with a lead. Marty apparently took it in stride. He was a nice guy. My dad, less so.Glorified KC said:Sad to see Marty Schottenheimer have to live his last days with Alzheimer's. He was a great coach and it's too bad he didn't break through and win a Super Bowl.
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