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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,835
    she sure has. i just wasn't aware she was on board with all that birther crap until fairly recently. 
    I guess I never paid her much mind

    I only knew she existed for the first time after one of the debates.  Trump was getting interviewed immediately after.  She was standing next to him, expressionless (like usual), but I read it like she looked like she was pissed she had to be there, hated the campaign, and couldnt wait until this shit was all over.  She didnt even look happy at the inauguration celebrations.

    You had the scandal of Trump/and the porn star as well as many other examples of him being disgusting surfaced.

    Then you see the evidence of the hand swats, refusal to appear to show any affection to her slob of a husband.  The fact that they sleep in different rooms.

    And speculation that she wanted out, but they came to some sort of financial agreement based around her and Baron Trump.



  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,137
    MayDay10 said:
    I guess I never paid her much mind

    I only knew she existed for the first time after one of the debates.  Trump was getting interviewed immediately after.  She was standing next to him, expressionless (like usual), but I read it like she looked like she was pissed she had to be there, hated the campaign, and couldnt wait until this shit was all over.  She didnt even look happy at the inauguration celebrations.

    You had the scandal of Trump/and the porn star as well as many other examples of him being disgusting surfaced.

    Then you see the evidence of the hand swats, refusal to appear to show any affection to her slob of a husband.  The fact that they sleep in different rooms.

    And speculation that she wanted out, but they came to some sort of financial agreement based around her and Baron Trump.



    I hadn't either. I knew who she was, but in name only. before he was prez, I had no idea there were nude pictures of her splashed all over the internet (which, as an aside, I find hilarious that all these conservatives think she's the classiest first lady ever-imagine if a democrat FLOTUS were a nude model), and then the videos of her "berth certeeefiKATE" comments about obama started to surface. 

    for the longest time online you'd see "freemelania" as a hashtag, all the while she's not the prisoner, she's the co-conspirator. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,491
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    I was going to add on and say Trump pulled a Claude Lemieux on Kris Draper, cheap shotting our Republic into the boards. 
    Pulled a Mike Tyson: choping off the ear of the Republic.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,491
    MayDay10 said:
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    Generally, I don't give a shit about her either way. I could care less that she doesn't like Christmas decorations or any of her non-required First-Lady duties. But I just keep coming back to this: "What if Michelle had done that?" The right called her a "man" and scoffed at a sleeveless sweater. And they like to suggest that we finally have a classy first lady. LOL.  Gee, I wonder why.

    Personally, I'd prefer the role of First Lady be diminished. Not because of Michelle, Melania, Dr. Jill, or anyone else, but because it's one of those traditions that I think could scare people off from voting for Mayor Pete or a woman. "Oh no, Mayor Pete's husband is going to be the first (insert pejorative). God's going to punish us."

    In the article, it's interesting that Carter was lower than Trump on his way out but his wife wasn't nearly as low as Melania. My guess is that some of that is rooted in the idea that Carter, while a very disappointing president, was a decent person and that reflected on the couple.  The Trumps are miserable, objectionable humans. That difference probably reflects on the two presidents as much as the first ladies themselves.

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,137
    OnWis97 said:
    Generally, I don't give a shit about her either way. I could care less that she doesn't like Christmas decorations or any of her non-required First-Lady duties. But I just keep coming back to this: "What if Michelle had done that?" The right called her a "man" and scoffed at a sleeveless sweater. And they like to suggest that we finally have a classy first lady. LOL.  Gee, I wonder why.

    Personally, I'd prefer the role of First Lady be diminished. Not because of Michelle, Melania, Dr. Jill, or anyone else, but because it's one of those traditions that I think could scare people off from voting for Mayor Pete or a woman. "Oh no, Mayor Pete's husband is going to be the first (insert pejorative). God's going to punish us."

    In the article, it's interesting that Carter was lower than Trump on his way out but his wife wasn't nearly as low as Melania. My guess is that some of that is rooted in the idea that Carter, while a very disappointing president, was a decent person and that reflected on the couple.  The Trumps are miserable, objectionable humans. That difference probably reflects on the two presidents as much as the first ladies themselves.

    I don't really see the FL role as anything but ceremonial and inspirational anyway; it's not like they inform policy in any way, shape, or form. It must, honestly, be kind of demeaning to an educated woman like Dr Biden or Hillary or Michelle to all of a sudden be tasked with decorating her man's castle every year. it's amazing to me that specific example of misogyny is still alive. 

    and those comments I see all the time on Barack's timeline of Michael Obama; so disgusting. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,491
    I don't really see the FL role as anything but ceremonial and inspirational anyway; it's not like they inform policy in any way, shape, or form. It must, honestly, be kind of demeaning to an educated woman like Dr Biden or Hillary or Michelle to all of a sudden be tasked with decorating her man's castle every year. it's amazing to me that specific example of misogyny is still alive. 

    and those comments I see all the time on Barack's timeline of Michael Obama; so disgusting. 
    That's a bit of what I was going to mention with my "dimished role" comment. It's rooted in gender roles that there needs to be a "woman behind the man" doing this kind of stuff.  I believe a couple of widowed/unmarried presidents even had a sister or daughter assume the role of "first lady."  Like there needs to be some woman lady running the white house affairs.

    "Be Best" is going to be a comedic footnote. Honestly, the only other first lady "initiative" I can recall at this point is Nancy Reagan's "Say No to Drugs."

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,672
     I had no idea there were nude pictures of her splashed all over the internet 
    I didn't know that until just now...are there links? Asking for a friend.
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    Trump is gonna have a busy last day: Pardons, releasing tax records, health care plan, and proof of election fraud all in the next 23 hours and 19 minutes!
    And don't forget the indictments. Lots of indictments.
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  • MayDay10 said:
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    You don't consider "I don't care, do U?" effort? 
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  • I don't really see the FL role as anything but ceremonial and inspirational anyway; it's not like they inform policy in any way, shape, or form. It must, honestly, be kind of demeaning to an educated woman like Dr Biden or Hillary or Michelle to all of a sudden be tasked with decorating her man's castle every year. it's amazing to me that specific example of misogyny is still alive. 

    and those comments I see all the time on Barack's timeline of Michael Obama; so disgusting. 
    Hillary Clinton was appointed by Bill to head up the health care task force that produced legislation or a framework to be presented to Congress as a bill for a vote in 1993. Unfortunately, it was declared DOA by its detractors, even before it was voted on. Just imagine if it had been negotiated, revised, voted upon and passed and became law? Then imagine if it had been revised over the years to address deficiencies and made better? But yea, socialism and radicalness. 
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    Hillary Clinton was appointed by Bill to head up the health care task force that produced legislation or a framework to be presented to Congress as a bill for a vote in 1993. Unfortunately, it was declared DOA by its detractors, even before it was voted on. Just imagine if it had been negotiated, revised, voted upon and passed and became law? Then imagine if it had been revised over the years to address deficiencies and made better? But yea, socialism and radicalness. 
    yeah, but that was an appointment. that wasn't tasked under the umbrella of "first lady". 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,961
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    yeah, but that was an appointment. that wasn't tasked under the umbrella of "first lady". 
    Do you think Hillary advised Bill on policy, two for one? What do you mean by “tasked under the umbrella of First Lady?”
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    Is it demeaning to an educated man like our Second Gentleman as well?


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,137
    edited January 2021
    Is it demeaning to an educated man like our Second Gentleman as well?


    I would say so. it should be done by the WH staff. 
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    OnWis97 said:
    Generally, I don't give a shit about her either way. I could care less that she doesn't like Christmas decorations or any of her non-required First-Lady duties. But I just keep coming back to this: "What if Michelle had done that?" The right called her a "man" and scoffed at a sleeveless sweater. And they like to suggest that we finally have a classy first lady. LOL.  Gee, I wonder why.

    Personally, I'd prefer the role of First Lady be diminished. Not because of Michelle, Melania, Dr. Jill, or anyone else, but because it's one of those traditions that I think could scare people off from voting for Mayor Pete or a woman. "Oh no, Mayor Pete's husband is going to be the first (insert pejorative). God's going to punish us."

    In the article, it's interesting that Carter was lower than Trump on his way out but his wife wasn't nearly as low as Melania. My guess is that some of that is rooted in the idea that Carter, while a very disappointing president, was a decent person and that reflected on the couple.  The Trumps are miserable, objectionable humans. That difference probably reflects on the two presidents as much as the first ladies themselves.

    There’s a hilarious bit from Bill Burr on this. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,650
    OnWis97 said:
    Generally, I don't give a shit about her either way. I could care less that she doesn't like Christmas decorations or any of her non-required First-Lady duties. But I just keep coming back to this: "What if Michelle had done that?" The right called her a "man" and scoffed at a sleeveless sweater. And they like to suggest that we finally have a classy first lady. LOL.  Gee, I wonder why.

    Personally, I'd prefer the role of First Lady be diminished. Not because of Michelle, Melania, Dr. Jill, or anyone else, but because it's one of those traditions that I think could scare people off from voting for Mayor Pete or a woman. "Oh no, Mayor Pete's husband is going to be the first (insert pejorative). God's going to punish us."

    In the article, it's interesting that Carter was lower than Trump on his way out but his wife wasn't nearly as low as Melania. My guess is that some of that is rooted in the idea that Carter, while a very disappointing president, was a decent person and that reflected on the couple.  The Trumps are miserable, objectionable humans. That difference probably reflects on the two presidents as much as the first ladies themselves.

    agreed...I can't keep the "what if Michelle had done this" thought from going through my head.  Melania has been absolutely horrible.  

    Reminds me of the hell the GOP put us through when Michelle tried to improve school lunches.  That uproar came at an odd time for me.  I had visited my daughter at her elementary school and had lunch with her.  I was absolutely floored when one of the cafeteria workers brought out this cart about 10 minutes into lunch to sell bags of chips, cookies, those plastic barrel sugared drinks, etc.  Probably 33% of the kids lined up to buy that shit.  One kid I remember at my table didn't touch his lunch...came back with two small bags of popcorn and a sugar drink for "lunch" and ended up tossing whatever was served to him.

    They did away with that soon after and I hope/assume it related to Michelle's program.  Apparently it was some PTO fundraiser which is disgusting.
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    more winning....
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    Can't wait for this to be fact checked and the lies added to the total. Buh bye, ByeDon, buh bye. Is he taking a shit in his diaper every time he grimaces and turns sideways? Tomorrow, 12:01 p.m. cannot come fast enough. Buh bye, byedon, buh bye.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h5_d3DUdR4


    Still won't say Biden's name. What a coward.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,457
    tbergs said:
    Still won't say Biden's name. What a coward.

    welp, losing loser losers will be petty losers.
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  • Now, there’s a couple who knows how the average American struggles. And I can’t wait to shop where Ivanka Darlink shops. Buh bye, bye bye now. Buh bye.


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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,431
    Can't wait for this to be fact checked and the lies added to the total. Buh bye, ByeDon, buh bye. Is he taking a shit in his diaper every time he grimaces and turns sideways? Tomorrow, 12:01 p.m. cannot come fast enough. Buh bye, byedon, buh bye.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h5_d3DUdR4


    i absolutely refuse to watch that video.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,961
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    i absolutely refuse to watch that video.
    Its definitely 19+ minutes you wont get back nor be better for. Good call.

    Halifax, he watches so you don't have to.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,672
    Can't wait for this to be fact checked and the lies added to the total. Buh bye, ByeDon, buh bye. Is he taking a shit in his diaper every time he grimaces and turns sideways? Tomorrow, 12:01 p.m. cannot come fast enough. Buh bye, byedon, buh bye.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h5_d3DUdR4


    It says all we need to know about this schmuck that everything lately (this BS, the statement last week about the riots etc.) is taped and released. Can't make a live statement like a normal statesman. Need to cut, retake, edit.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,600
    Its definitely 19+ minutes you wont get back nor be better for. Good call.

    Halifax, he watches so you don't have to.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,457
    mrussel1 said:
    You're a giver. That's why we like you. 

    fucking masochist if you ask me. you didnt , but here we are.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,457
    16 hrs 40 minutes....
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,917
    I’m imagine being so racist it is easier to get behind trump and a conspiracy of baby eating pedophile torturers than admit that you have a flaw that needs working on.
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • mickeyrat said:
    16 hrs 40 minutes....
    16:24 too fucking long.
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  • You’ll enjoy this one. Worth the watch and you’ll laugh. It’s so true.

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