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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,402
    Poncier said:
    Kat said:
    24 hours.


    I wanna be sedated...
    hurry, hurry, hurry, before I go insane...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    i was in your boat too until a few months ago when I realized the same. 
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    i was in your boat too until a few months ago when I realized the same. 
    She's always been a POS: 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6i0YlHriKk
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    i was in your boat too until a few months ago when I realized the same. 
    She's always been a POS: 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6i0YlHriKk
    she sure has. i just wasn't aware she was on board with all that birther crap until fairly recently. 
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    Poncier said:
    Kat said:
    24 hours.


    I wanna be sedated..

    Hurry, hurry, hurry, before I go insane

    22 hours.
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    It’s gonna be like Christmas Day in whoville when the grinch is like how the fuck are they celebrating.  Except I doubt this grinches heart is going to grow
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,402
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    i was in your boat too until a few months ago when I realized the same. 
    She's always been a POS: 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6i0YlHriKk
    The seeds of the MAGA slogan began forming in her interview here. Maybe she is the one behind it. She all but said he wants to make America great at the end.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    time keeps on slipping slipping slipping in to the future
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773
    tbergs said:
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    i was in your boat too until a few months ago when I realized the same. 
    She's always been a POS: 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6i0YlHriKk
    The seeds of the MAGA slogan began forming in her interview here. Maybe she is the one behind it. She all but said he wants to make America great at the end.
    It's funny, the things you find out when you do a modicum of digging... I wonder how many people know that "Stop the Steal" was a fundraising campaign in 2016 as well as November & December of 2020.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/business/stop-the-steal-disinformation-campaign-invs/index.html
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ikiT said:
    400k dead, mostly due to a combo of just not giving a fuck and sheer incompetence.

    Wednesday 12:01 cant come soon enough. GTFO.
    the scary thing is if trump had even tried, just attempted to get a handle on the pandemic, he probably would have won the election. 

    just done the bare minimum. but he was incapable of even that.
    Yes, this was his 9/11, Pearl Harbor type moment.  The moment that every president actually dreams about, the one to unite the country and be a leader.  It's a hanging curveball, letter high on 3-0.  It's as easy as it gets and he fucked it up because he is so short sighted.  And the consequences are double the dead than necessary, losing the election, economy in tatters and frankly going down as the worst president in history.  Literally.  We lived through the worst one.  Lucky us. 
    Exactly.  GW Bush was immensely popular for about 18 months because of 9/11. And probably retained just enough momentum from that to win in 2004. And he really didn't have to do anything. He just took the mic and started talking about how strong we can be together - and I'm not ripping that. It's just what it is. In the immediate aftermath, he acted like a leader and tried to help us work through it (he eventually exploited it in terrible ways...but his immediate response made him Teflon for a while).

    Trump didn't have to do anything all that unique or challenging. People would not be all that hard on him for most of the tangible things he's done and not done during this time. The reason he's going to be badly remembered is that he couldn't complete the simple task of even appearing to try to unite us. All it would have taken is a couple of speeches and a few mentions (including tweets) of "look out for each other and wear your mask" and all the middle-of-the-road and apolitical types that don't really understand how unfit he was would have appreciated it. Oh, and fewer people would be dead.  And behind the scenes he could still have chosen the economy over health/safety (i.e., he could continue to think the choice was black and white with no room for nuance) and the impact on his image would have been negligible because he would have shown that very simple, largely intangible, leadership. He Bill Bucknered his opportunity to have a much better legacy and, probably, to be re-elected.
    Please edit your post to remove the reference to Bill Buckner. Bill does not deserve to be sullied in such a reference to Tricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat’s transgressions. Furthermore, there were others involved in the Sox’s 1986 WS defeat that, had they made better decisions or performed better, may very well have prevented Bill’s inglorious legacy. He doesn’t deserve to be in the same sentence as TTTTTC and was a billion times better as a man and a human than TTTTTC will ever be.

    The funny thing is, I almost mentioned that Buckner's role in losing that series is way overblown...but I didn't feel like adding to the post with a tangent.
    I was going to add on and say Trump pulled a Claude Lemieux on Kris Draper, cheap shotting our Republic into the boards. 
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,853
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    i was in your boat too until a few months ago when I realized the same. 
    She's always been a POS: 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6i0YlHriKk
    she sure has. i just wasn't aware she was on board with all that birther crap until fairly recently. 
    I guess I never paid her much mind

    I only knew she existed for the first time after one of the debates.  Trump was getting interviewed immediately after.  She was standing next to him, expressionless (like usual), but I read it like she looked like she was pissed she had to be there, hated the campaign, and couldnt wait until this shit was all over.  She didnt even look happy at the inauguration celebrations.

    You had the scandal of Trump/and the porn star as well as many other examples of him being disgusting surfaced.

    Then you see the evidence of the hand swats, refusal to appear to show any affection to her slob of a husband.  The fact that they sleep in different rooms.

    And speculation that she wanted out, but they came to some sort of financial agreement based around her and Baron Trump.



  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    MayDay10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    i was in your boat too until a few months ago when I realized the same. 
    She's always been a POS: 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6i0YlHriKk
    she sure has. i just wasn't aware she was on board with all that birther crap until fairly recently. 
    I guess I never paid her much mind

    I only knew she existed for the first time after one of the debates.  Trump was getting interviewed immediately after.  She was standing next to him, expressionless (like usual), but I read it like she looked like she was pissed she had to be there, hated the campaign, and couldnt wait until this shit was all over.  She didnt even look happy at the inauguration celebrations.

    You had the scandal of Trump/and the porn star as well as many other examples of him being disgusting surfaced.

    Then you see the evidence of the hand swats, refusal to appear to show any affection to her slob of a husband.  The fact that they sleep in different rooms.

    And speculation that she wanted out, but they came to some sort of financial agreement based around her and Baron Trump.



    I hadn't either. I knew who she was, but in name only. before he was prez, I had no idea there were nude pictures of her splashed all over the internet (which, as an aside, I find hilarious that all these conservatives think she's the classiest first lady ever-imagine if a democrat FLOTUS were a nude model), and then the videos of her "berth certeeefiKATE" comments about obama started to surface. 

    for the longest time online you'd see "freemelania" as a hashtag, all the while she's not the prisoner, she's the co-conspirator. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ikiT said:
    400k dead, mostly due to a combo of just not giving a fuck and sheer incompetence.

    Wednesday 12:01 cant come soon enough. GTFO.
    the scary thing is if trump had even tried, just attempted to get a handle on the pandemic, he probably would have won the election. 

    just done the bare minimum. but he was incapable of even that.
    Yes, this was his 9/11, Pearl Harbor type moment.  The moment that every president actually dreams about, the one to unite the country and be a leader.  It's a hanging curveball, letter high on 3-0.  It's as easy as it gets and he fucked it up because he is so short sighted.  And the consequences are double the dead than necessary, losing the election, economy in tatters and frankly going down as the worst president in history.  Literally.  We lived through the worst one.  Lucky us. 
    Exactly.  GW Bush was immensely popular for about 18 months because of 9/11. And probably retained just enough momentum from that to win in 2004. And he really didn't have to do anything. He just took the mic and started talking about how strong we can be together - and I'm not ripping that. It's just what it is. In the immediate aftermath, he acted like a leader and tried to help us work through it (he eventually exploited it in terrible ways...but his immediate response made him Teflon for a while).

    Trump didn't have to do anything all that unique or challenging. People would not be all that hard on him for most of the tangible things he's done and not done during this time. The reason he's going to be badly remembered is that he couldn't complete the simple task of even appearing to try to unite us. All it would have taken is a couple of speeches and a few mentions (including tweets) of "look out for each other and wear your mask" and all the middle-of-the-road and apolitical types that don't really understand how unfit he was would have appreciated it. Oh, and fewer people would be dead.  And behind the scenes he could still have chosen the economy over health/safety (i.e., he could continue to think the choice was black and white with no room for nuance) and the impact on his image would have been negligible because he would have shown that very simple, largely intangible, leadership. He Bill Bucknered his opportunity to have a much better legacy and, probably, to be re-elected.
    Please edit your post to remove the reference to Bill Buckner. Bill does not deserve to be sullied in such a reference to Tricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat’s transgressions. Furthermore, there were others involved in the Sox’s 1986 WS defeat that, had they made better decisions or performed better, may very well have prevented Bill’s inglorious legacy. He doesn’t deserve to be in the same sentence as TTTTTC and was a billion times better as a man and a human than TTTTTC will ever be.

    The funny thing is, I almost mentioned that Buckner's role in losing that series is way overblown...but I didn't feel like adding to the post with a tangent.
    I was going to add on and say Trump pulled a Claude Lemieux on Kris Draper, cheap shotting our Republic into the boards. 
    Pulled a Mike Tyson: choping off the ear of the Republic.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    Generally, I don't give a shit about her either way. I could care less that she doesn't like Christmas decorations or any of her non-required First-Lady duties. But I just keep coming back to this: "What if Michelle had done that?" The right called her a "man" and scoffed at a sleeveless sweater. And they like to suggest that we finally have a classy first lady. LOL.  Gee, I wonder why.

    Personally, I'd prefer the role of First Lady be diminished. Not because of Michelle, Melania, Dr. Jill, or anyone else, but because it's one of those traditions that I think could scare people off from voting for Mayor Pete or a woman. "Oh no, Mayor Pete's husband is going to be the first (insert pejorative). God's going to punish us."

    In the article, it's interesting that Carter was lower than Trump on his way out but his wife wasn't nearly as low as Melania. My guess is that some of that is rooted in the idea that Carter, while a very disappointing president, was a decent person and that reflected on the couple.  The Trumps are miserable, objectionable humans. That difference probably reflects on the two presidents as much as the first ladies themselves.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    OnWis97 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    Generally, I don't give a shit about her either way. I could care less that she doesn't like Christmas decorations or any of her non-required First-Lady duties. But I just keep coming back to this: "What if Michelle had done that?" The right called her a "man" and scoffed at a sleeveless sweater. And they like to suggest that we finally have a classy first lady. LOL.  Gee, I wonder why.

    Personally, I'd prefer the role of First Lady be diminished. Not because of Michelle, Melania, Dr. Jill, or anyone else, but because it's one of those traditions that I think could scare people off from voting for Mayor Pete or a woman. "Oh no, Mayor Pete's husband is going to be the first (insert pejorative). God's going to punish us."

    In the article, it's interesting that Carter was lower than Trump on his way out but his wife wasn't nearly as low as Melania. My guess is that some of that is rooted in the idea that Carter, while a very disappointing president, was a decent person and that reflected on the couple.  The Trumps are miserable, objectionable humans. That difference probably reflects on the two presidents as much as the first ladies themselves.

    I don't really see the FL role as anything but ceremonial and inspirational anyway; it's not like they inform policy in any way, shape, or form. It must, honestly, be kind of demeaning to an educated woman like Dr Biden or Hillary or Michelle to all of a sudden be tasked with decorating her man's castle every year. it's amazing to me that specific example of misogyny is still alive. 

    and those comments I see all the time on Barack's timeline of Michael Obama; so disgusting. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    OnWis97 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    Generally, I don't give a shit about her either way. I could care less that she doesn't like Christmas decorations or any of her non-required First-Lady duties. But I just keep coming back to this: "What if Michelle had done that?" The right called her a "man" and scoffed at a sleeveless sweater. And they like to suggest that we finally have a classy first lady. LOL.  Gee, I wonder why.

    Personally, I'd prefer the role of First Lady be diminished. Not because of Michelle, Melania, Dr. Jill, or anyone else, but because it's one of those traditions that I think could scare people off from voting for Mayor Pete or a woman. "Oh no, Mayor Pete's husband is going to be the first (insert pejorative). God's going to punish us."

    In the article, it's interesting that Carter was lower than Trump on his way out but his wife wasn't nearly as low as Melania. My guess is that some of that is rooted in the idea that Carter, while a very disappointing president, was a decent person and that reflected on the couple.  The Trumps are miserable, objectionable humans. That difference probably reflects on the two presidents as much as the first ladies themselves.

    I don't really see the FL role as anything but ceremonial and inspirational anyway; it's not like they inform policy in any way, shape, or form. It must, honestly, be kind of demeaning to an educated woman like Dr Biden or Hillary or Michelle to all of a sudden be tasked with decorating her man's castle every year. it's amazing to me that specific example of misogyny is still alive. 

    and those comments I see all the time on Barack's timeline of Michael Obama; so disgusting. 
    That's a bit of what I was going to mention with my "dimished role" comment. It's rooted in gender roles that there needs to be a "woman behind the man" doing this kind of stuff.  I believe a couple of widowed/unmarried presidents even had a sister or daughter assume the role of "first lady."  Like there needs to be some woman lady running the white house affairs.

    "Be Best" is going to be a comedic footnote. Honestly, the only other first lady "initiative" I can recall at this point is Nancy Reagan's "Say No to Drugs."

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    MayDay10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    i was in your boat too until a few months ago when I realized the same. 
    She's always been a POS: 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6i0YlHriKk
    she sure has. i just wasn't aware she was on board with all that birther crap until fairly recently. 
    I guess I never paid her much mind

    I only knew she existed for the first time after one of the debates.  Trump was getting interviewed immediately after.  She was standing next to him, expressionless (like usual), but I read it like she looked like she was pissed she had to be there, hated the campaign, and couldnt wait until this shit was all over.  She didnt even look happy at the inauguration celebrations.

    You had the scandal of Trump/and the porn star as well as many other examples of him being disgusting surfaced.

    Then you see the evidence of the hand swats, refusal to appear to show any affection to her slob of a husband.  The fact that they sleep in different rooms.

    And speculation that she wanted out, but they came to some sort of financial agreement based around her and Baron Trump.



     I had no idea there were nude pictures of her splashed all over the internet 
    I didn't know that until just now...are there links? Asking for a friend.
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    Trump is gonna have a busy last day: Pardons, releasing tax records, health care plan, and proof of election fraud all in the next 23 hours and 19 minutes!
    And don't forget the indictments. Lots of indictments.
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  • MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    You don't consider "I don't care, do U?" effort? 
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  • OnWis97 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    also worst first lady in history:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/melania-trump-analysis/index.html

    the wins just keep piling up for this basket of deplorables. 
    Up until not too long ago, I kind of felt bad for her, thinking she was basically a prisoner of circumstance and was disgusted by Donald and hated the fact that he won the election and hated the fact that he even ran for President.  She just wanted to live a posh life.

    But she really doubled-down on being as despicable as that fat slob of a husband she has hooked her money grubbing claws into.  She is an awful, bitter human being and she seems about as intelligent as a house cat.  As first lady she provided nothing of value and like her bloated spouse, she put in no effort at all
    Generally, I don't give a shit about her either way. I could care less that she doesn't like Christmas decorations or any of her non-required First-Lady duties. But I just keep coming back to this: "What if Michelle had done that?" The right called her a "man" and scoffed at a sleeveless sweater. And they like to suggest that we finally have a classy first lady. LOL.  Gee, I wonder why.

    Personally, I'd prefer the role of First Lady be diminished. Not because of Michelle, Melania, Dr. Jill, or anyone else, but because it's one of those traditions that I think could scare people off from voting for Mayor Pete or a woman. "Oh no, Mayor Pete's husband is going to be the first (insert pejorative). God's going to punish us."

    In the article, it's interesting that Carter was lower than Trump on his way out but his wife wasn't nearly as low as Melania. My guess is that some of that is rooted in the idea that Carter, while a very disappointing president, was a decent person and that reflected on the couple.  The Trumps are miserable, objectionable humans. That difference probably reflects on the two presidents as much as the first ladies themselves.

    I don't really see the FL role as anything but ceremonial and inspirational anyway; it's not like they inform policy in any way, shape, or form. It must, honestly, be kind of demeaning to an educated woman like Dr Biden or Hillary or Michelle to all of a sudden be tasked with decorating her man's castle every year. it's amazing to me that specific example of misogyny is still alive. 

    and those comments I see all the time on Barack's timeline of Michael Obama; so disgusting. 
    Hillary Clinton was appointed by Bill to head up the health care task force that produced legislation or a framework to be presented to Congress as a bill for a vote in 1993. Unfortunately, it was declared DOA by its detractors, even before it was voted on. Just imagine if it had been negotiated, revised, voted upon and passed and became law? Then imagine if it had been revised over the years to address deficiencies and made better? But yea, socialism and radicalness. 
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