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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    Impeachment vote is going to go ahead by mid next week. Not sure what this is going to do other than put another stain on his legacy but I am all for it. 
    I’m not versed on all things political. Do you (or anyone) know what procedure (if any besides incarceration) prevents him from running again? 

    additional charge in the senate trial that explicitly says barred from holding office again.
    Correct these three things need to happen and in order. 1 and 3 can not happen without 2 which will never happen imo

    1. House votes for simple majority
    2. Senate has trial and needs a vote that is a supermajority (2/3rds)
    3. Senate then can vote to disqualify him from office in the future with simple majority
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    edited January 2021
    This is an interesting piece about GOP senators who feel but they should’ve been harsher on Trump over the last four years. It paints them is caring about their party a lot more than their country, so I can buy it.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/533280-republican-senators-now-regret-not-doing-more-to-contain-trump?amp&__twitter_impression=true
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    PJNB said:
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    Impeachment vote is going to go ahead by mid next week. Not sure what this is going to do other than put another stain on his legacy but I am all for it. 
    I’m not versed on all things political. Do you (or anyone) know what procedure (if any besides incarceration) prevents him from running again? 

    additional charge in the senate trial that explicitly says barred from holding office again.
    Correct these three things need to happen and in order. 1 and 3 can not happen without 2 which will never happen imo

    1. House votes for simple majority
    2. Senate has trial and needs a vote that is a supermajority (2/3rds)
    3. Senate then can vote to disqualify him from office in the future with simple majority
    Is it sad that I go to and trust TC members/posters for my information?  
    I appreciate the info and articles from all. 
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,520
    edited January 2021
    Want to see something incredibly disheartening? Edit: link here.


    Post edited by Jearlpam0925 on
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,167
    PJNB said:
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    Impeachment vote is going to go ahead by mid next week. Not sure what this is going to do other than put another stain on his legacy but I am all for it. 
    I’m not versed on all things political. Do you (or anyone) know what procedure (if any besides incarceration) prevents him from running again? 

    additional charge in the senate trial that explicitly says barred from holding office again.
    Correct these three things need to happen and in order. 1 and 3 can not happen without 2 which will never happen imo

    1. House votes for simple majority
    2. Senate has trial and needs a vote that is a supermajority (2/3rds)
    3. Senate then can vote to disqualify him from office in the future with simple majority
    Honestly there are a slew of GOP Senators that might want to keep tRump out of the running for 2024.  Cruz, Rubio, Hawley, probably more.


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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,520
    PJNB said:
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    Impeachment vote is going to go ahead by mid next week. Not sure what this is going to do other than put another stain on his legacy but I am all for it. 
    I’m not versed on all things political. Do you (or anyone) know what procedure (if any besides incarceration) prevents him from running again? 

    additional charge in the senate trial that explicitly says barred from holding office again.
    Correct these three things need to happen and in order. 1 and 3 can not happen without 2 which will never happen imo

    1. House votes for simple majority
    2. Senate has trial and needs a vote that is a supermajority (2/3rds)
    3. Senate then can vote to disqualify him from office in the future with simple majority
    Honestly there are a slew of GOP Senators that might want to keep tRump out of the running for 2024.  Cruz, Rubio, Hawley, probably more.


    Sounds like Hawley could get censured.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,402
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,167
    PJNB said:
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    Impeachment vote is going to go ahead by mid next week. Not sure what this is going to do other than put another stain on his legacy but I am all for it. 
    I’m not versed on all things political. Do you (or anyone) know what procedure (if any besides incarceration) prevents him from running again? 

    additional charge in the senate trial that explicitly says barred from holding office again.
    Correct these three things need to happen and in order. 1 and 3 can not happen without 2 which will never happen imo

    1. House votes for simple majority
    2. Senate has trial and needs a vote that is a supermajority (2/3rds)
    3. Senate then can vote to disqualify him from office in the future with simple majority
    Honestly there are a slew of GOP Senators that might want to keep tRump out of the running for 2024.  Cruz, Rubio, Hawley, probably more.


    Sounds like Hawley could get censured.
    I hope so. And I hope he has destroyed any future political hopes he had which obviously included a 2024 run.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,454


    What a piece of shit...and now he's condemning the violence
    obviously he's doing that to save himself from possible prosecution of inciting it. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,167
    edited January 2021
    I still can't wrap my head around how these idiots didn't expect the violence.  It could have been worse for sure.  I have seen some trashed offices but other than broken windows, etc., it didn't seem like there was much damage done inside the capitol.  One guy they interviewed said that he was telling people not to damage anything inside.  I'm honestly surprised that they didn't destroy Pelosi's office.

    Of course it's possible that we haven't been notified of all the internal damage yet.

    But 5 people are dead....one murdered (the cop), and all because tRump couldn't accept his loss like a man.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,167
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,039
    someone didn't learn from his timeout. i reported that shit.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • I still can't wrap my head around how these idiots didn't expect the violence.  It could have been worse for sure.  I have seen some trashed offices but other than broken windows, etc., it didn't seem like there was much damage done inside the capitol.  One guy they interviewed said that he was telling people not to damage anything inside.  I'm honestly surprised that they didn't destroy Pelosi's office.

    Of course it's possible that we haven't been notified of all the internal damage yet.

    But 5 people are dead....one murdered (the cop), and all because tRump couldn't accept his loss like a man.
    One of those arrested is from Russia. Documents and electronic devices “with national security implications” were taken from congressional offices. Think of that as you will.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    I still can't wrap my head around how these idiots didn't expect the violence.  It could have been worse for sure.  I have seen some trashed offices but other than broken windows, etc., it didn't seem like there was much damage done inside the capitol.  One guy they interviewed said that he was telling people not to damage anything inside.  I'm honestly surprised that they didn't destroy Pelosi's office.

    Of course it's possible that we haven't been notified of all the internal damage yet.

    But 5 people are dead....one murdered (the cop), and all because tRump couldn't accept his loss like a man.
    One of those arrested is from Russia. Documents and electronic devices “with national security implications” were taken from congressional offices. Think of that as you will.
    You have a link to that article? Very very interesting.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,039
    he is my senator. i do not know a single person who voted for him. but we are stuck with him. he will never, ever resign. and the idiots in my state will probably vote for him in greater numbers next time.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,520
    I mean does it really matter tho? It can't get any worse, it's as bad as it can get. They were hacking into our networks for years, too. Reagan certainly started the idea of government being evil, and now it's coming full circle. This is what we all get when we act like our own government is the enemy. Trump would sell it all out to make a penny.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,039
    I mean does it really matter tho? It can't get any worse, it's as bad as it can get. They were hacking into our networks for years, too. Reagan certainly started the idea of government being evil, and now it's coming full circle. This is what we all get when we act like our own government is the enemy. Trump would sell it all out to make a penny.
    in my opinion, what he tried to pull, with ZERO evidence of cheating in this election, he has forfeited his right to hold that seat.

    also, his seeming to be more angry over losing his book deal than a coup attempt tells me that he does not really want his job for anything other than a stepping stone to run for president in 24.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10 said:
    I still can't wrap my head around how these idiots didn't expect the violence.  It could have been worse for sure.  I have seen some trashed offices but other than broken windows, etc., it didn't seem like there was much damage done inside the capitol.  One guy they interviewed said that he was telling people not to damage anything inside.  I'm honestly surprised that they didn't destroy Pelosi's office.

    Of course it's possible that we haven't been notified of all the internal damage yet.

    But 5 people are dead....one murdered (the cop), and all because tRump couldn't accept his loss like a man.
    One of those arrested is from Russia. Documents and electronic devices “with national security implications” were taken from congressional offices. Think of that as you will.
    You have a link to that article? Very very interesting.  
    WaPo if I can find it again. It was in their article about the number of arrests and what charges the traitors face. Mostly trespassing and curfew violations with a few facing weapons charges.
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