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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    drawing 20k.  #sad
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    probably WAY less.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,854
    Merkin Baller said:
    I'm genuinely curious what Cruz & company see as an endgame in all of this. 

    I think Cruz, and some others are hoping to capture the Trumpers and somehow the public's support of trump will transition to him when the Republican primaries start to flesh out.

    Some are just riding on the Trump coattails, are a complete product of Trump, and will act out on whatever him and his cult want.  

    Some are uncomfortable with this and are planning on it receding like the tide and everything going back to 'normal'.  But they still back trump because they fear Trump and his base turning on them.  They have been trying to run out the clock for 5 years but it just gets worse, much of it due to their enabling.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,786
    I understand these guys are trying to capture Trump's base, but this week they're not only undermining the constitution and our democracy, but also one of the basics of conservatism, that being states' rights,

    I guess I just don't see this as being sustainable, at least not by any of these guys trying to take advantage of it... or maybe now I'm just being optimistic.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Merkin Baller said:
    I understand these guys are trying to capture Trump's base, but this week they're not only undermining the constitution and our democracy, but also one of the basics of conservatism, that being states' rights,

    I guess I just don't see this as being sustainable, at least not by any of these guys trying to take advantage of it... or maybe now I'm just being optimistic.
    If the polls i've seen are accurate, 82% of republicans do not trust the outcome of the election as non-fraudulent. these guys are just following the lead of their constituents. 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,889
    josevolution said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Doesn't  the U.S. have an extradition treaty with Scotland?

    Plane Sightings Fuel Rumors Trump Planning Escape to Scotland on Day Before Biden Inauguration.
          https://www.thedailybeast.com/plane-sightings-fuel-rumors-trump-planning-escape-to-scotland-on-day-before-biden-inauguration?source=cheats&via=rss
    Scotland has closed borders only open to essentials..
    Getting him out of our lives is essential...would suck for Scotland though.
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,854
    edited January 2021
    Merkin Baller said:
    I understand these guys are trying to capture Trump's base, but this week they're not only undermining the constitution and our democracy, but also one of the basics of conservatism, that being states' rights,

    I guess I just don't see this as being sustainable, at least not by any of these guys trying to take advantage of it... or maybe now I'm just being optimistic.
    In the day and age of everyone forgetting everything every news cycle, everyone can do whatever they want.  There is no accountability, especially within the Republican Party.

    I think Cruz knows this will fail.  He wanted to jump out there to look like he has Trump's back as well as Trump's supporters' backs.  There is probably almost zero risk and a lot to gain.

    Its likely at some point, Cruz will do or say the wrong thing and Trump will throw him under the train like he does everyone else.  Anyone who is subservient to Trump is nauseating and spineless because Trump will cast them aside in a second.


    Nobody knows where this is going to end.  That is the scary part.  I am guessing that the Republican Party will in fact war with itself.  Trump or his kids will certainly try to run in 2024... and if not, some scary lunatic in the same vein as Trump.  There is zero chance they win a national election as this one was a total blowout.  Republicans are going to need to deal with this and cast it aside somehow.... but the problem is that the fat, entitled, coddled, media suckling, and foolish base that Trump cultivates keeps projecting their faults on inner-city blacks and millennials arent going anywhere.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,786
    I guess in the end I still haven't come to terms with how much bullshit Americans are willing to accept from these people. 

  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,854
    Merkin Baller said:
    I guess in the end I still haven't come to terms with how much bullshit Americans are willing to accept from these people. 

    We have been overwhelmed and desensitized.  Not to mention that a huge number of Americans just simply refuse to believe anything they hear if it doesnt match what they want.

    In any other Dimension, the American public would have shown Trump the boot and held him accountable. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    MayDay10 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    I guess in the end I still haven't come to terms with how much bullshit Americans are willing to accept from these people. 

    We have been overwhelmed and desensitized.  Not to mention that a huge number of Americans just simply refuse to believe anything they hear if it doesnt match what they want.

    In any other Dimension, the American public would have shown Trump the boot and held him accountable. 
    the sheer amount of presidency-ending scandals had this been 20 years ago is totally staggering. and today, these stories barely last 24 hours. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    MayDay10 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    I understand these guys are trying to capture Trump's base, but this week they're not only undermining the constitution and our democracy, but also one of the basics of conservatism, that being states' rights,

    I guess I just don't see this as being sustainable, at least not by any of these guys trying to take advantage of it... or maybe now I'm just being optimistic.
    In the day and age of everyone forgetting everything every news cycle, everyone can do whatever they want.  There is no accountability, especially within the Republican Party.

    I think Cruz knows this will fail.  He wanted to jump out there to look like he has Trump's back as well as Trump's supporters' backs.  There is probably almost zero risk and a lot to gain.

    Its likely at some point, Cruz will do or say the wrong thing and Trump will throw him under the train like he does everyone else.  Anyone who is subservient to Trump is nauseating and spineless because Trump will cast them aside in a second.


    Nobody knows where this is going to end.  That is the scary part.  I am guessing that the Republican Party will in fact war with itself.  Trump or his kids will certainly try to run in 2024... and if not, some scary lunatic in the same vein as Trump.  There is zero chance they win a national election as this one was a total blowout.  Republicans are going to need to deal with this and cast it aside somehow.... but the problem is that the fat, entitled, coddled, media suckling, and foolish base that Trump cultivates keeps projecting their faults on inner-city blacks and millennials arent going anywhere.
    I hope you're right.  But I think without Covid, Trump beats Biden (of course in that scenario, the GOP would not have to be as traitorous as they are being now). I think part of what they're doing is trying to make it harder for Biden to succeed (country after party) by painting a fairly strong mandate as suspect and (for Mitch) just plain hamstringing him for January. In four years that promise to be crazy as hell, Biden will have a presidency on which to be judged and he'll be old.  (Not to mention he likely won't run and the Dems don't have a deep bench).

    The hope is that in four years, things have gotten back to normal, but American conservatives are angry (I still haven't figured out about what). And I think astute Republicans know that the way to get them engaged is to blame all their problems on people in America that are not like them. It's hard to imagine Kasich (or someone) getting the nomination in four years. It feels like it's either going to a Trump or a Trump disciple. Hopefully this cult being all about Trump will soften its fervor for Nikki Haley, Dan Crenshaw, or whoever. And hopefully the American people continue to vote in the numbers they did this time and the 60% can establish some dominance over the 40%.  Because the 40% would agree to Trump family dictatorship for eternity if they could.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    MayDay10 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    I guess in the end I still haven't come to terms with how much bullshit Americans are willing to accept from these people. 

    We have been overwhelmed and desensitized.  Not to mention that a huge number of Americans just simply refuse to believe anything they hear if it doesnt match what they want.

    In any other Dimension, the American public would have shown Trump the boot and held him accountable. 
    I'm sick of this echo chamber. I'm going to Parler!
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited January 2021
    "Without Covid, Trump beats Biden."

    Give me a break, people. Biden led Trump in polling for well over a year prior to Covid happening. Trump had a historically low approval rating for his entire time in office. Trump losing reelection, was not difficult for rational people to predict.

    Also, the Trump administration screwing up something like the Covid response was only a matter of time. He's an incompetent boob. Rational people assumed it was only a matter of time before they screwed the pooch on something like that since day 1, as well. Just so happens it took a few years longer to happen. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    The Juggler said:
    "Without Covid, Trump beats Biden."

    Give me a break, people. Biden led Trump in polling for well over a year prior to Covid happening. Trump had a historically low approval rating for his entire time in office. Trump losing reelection, was not difficult for rational people to predict.

    Also, the Trump administration screwing up something like the Covid response was only a matter of time. He's an incompetent boob. Rational people assumed it was only a matter of time before they screwed the pooch on something like that since day 1, as well. Just so happens it took a few years longer to happen. 
    agreed. covid was just the winning team padding the stats. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The Juggler said:
    "Without Covid, Trump beats Biden."

    Give me a break, people. Biden led Trump in polling for well over a year prior to Covid happening. Trump had a historically low approval rating for his entire time in office. Trump losing reelection, was not difficult for rational people to predict.

    Also, the Trump administration screwing up something like the Covid response was only a matter of time. He's an incompetent boob. Rational people assumed it was only a matter of time before they screwed the pooch on something like that since day 1, as well. Just so happens it took a few years longer to happen. 
    agreed. covid was just the winning team padding the stats. 
    Yeah. It was the inevitable screw up of an incompetent administration. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The Juggler said:
    "Without Covid, Trump beats Biden."

    Give me a break, people. Biden led Trump in polling for well over a year prior to Covid happening. Trump had a historically low approval rating for his entire time in office. Trump losing reelection, was not difficult for rational people to predict.

    Also, the Trump administration screwing up something like the Covid response was only a matter of time. He's an incompetent boob. Rational people assumed it was only a matter of time before they screwed the pooch on something like that since day 1, as well. Just so happens it took a few years longer to happen. 
    agreed. covid was just the winning team padding the stats. 
    Yeah. It was the inevitable screw up of an incompetent administration. 
    Very much like how the eagles ended their season.  ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,854
    I have said it before, but IMO if you had an election any day since the 2016 election, Trump loses.  

    It was a perfect storm of a candidate who people were already fatigued with, a general indifference/overconfidence for Democrats, and a severe underestimation on the damage an election can do to a federal government.

    Baby Boomers who are staunch republicans and evangelicals are dying off by the day.  The republican base was already shrinking and they were in trouble nationally without adjusting their platform to be anything other than Abortion, 'Troops', and preventing 100% of our paychecks going to inner city blacks who laugh at us.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The Juggler said:
    "Without Covid, Trump beats Biden."

    Give me a break, people. Biden led Trump in polling for well over a year prior to Covid happening. Trump had a historically low approval rating for his entire time in office. Trump losing reelection, was not difficult for rational people to predict.

    Also, the Trump administration screwing up something like the Covid response was only a matter of time. He's an incompetent boob. Rational people assumed it was only a matter of time before they screwed the pooch on something like that since day 1, as well. Just so happens it took a few years longer to happen. 
    agreed. covid was just the winning team padding the stats. 
    Yeah. It was the inevitable screw up of an incompetent administration. 
    Very much like how the eagles ended their season.  ;)
    No they were actually smart about how they ended it. Unfortunately, it ended up helping a dumb Giants organization and fanbase. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    The Juggler said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The Juggler said:
    "Without Covid, Trump beats Biden."

    Give me a break, people. Biden led Trump in polling for well over a year prior to Covid happening. Trump had a historically low approval rating for his entire time in office. Trump losing reelection, was not difficult for rational people to predict.

    Also, the Trump administration screwing up something like the Covid response was only a matter of time. He's an incompetent boob. Rational people assumed it was only a matter of time before they screwed the pooch on something like that since day 1, as well. Just so happens it took a few years longer to happen. 
    agreed. covid was just the winning team padding the stats. 
    Yeah. It was the inevitable screw up of an incompetent administration. 
    Very much like how the eagles ended their season.  ;)
    No they were actually smart about how they ended it. Unfortunately, it ended up helping a dumb Giants organization and fanbase. 
    Daaaaaaaaaamn! Goes straight for the jugular.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    The Juggler said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The Juggler said:
    "Without Covid, Trump beats Biden."

    Give me a break, people. Biden led Trump in polling for well over a year prior to Covid happening. Trump had a historically low approval rating for his entire time in office. Trump losing reelection, was not difficult for rational people to predict.

    Also, the Trump administration screwing up something like the Covid response was only a matter of time. He's an incompetent boob. Rational people assumed it was only a matter of time before they screwed the pooch on something like that since day 1, as well. Just so happens it took a few years longer to happen. 
    agreed. covid was just the winning team padding the stats. 
    Yeah. It was the inevitable screw up of an incompetent administration. 
    Very much like how the eagles ended their season.  ;)
    No they were actually smart about how they ended it. Unfortunately, it ended up helping a dumb Giants organization and fanbase. 

    Didn't it hurt the Giants and help the Football Teamers from Washington?
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