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Isn’t “chronically bad” synonymous with “nagging”? Anyway, I just randomly named 2 guys whose primes were ruined due to injury. I’m sure if I gave it more thought and research I could come up with much better examples of injuries that would have been more specifically benefited by load management. But whatever, I’m not arguing about it anymore.pjhawks said:
nagging injuries? Rose blew out a knee and Hill had a chronically bad ankle. Those had nothing to do with load management. Rose could have played no games that season and the way he landed on the play against the Sixers his knee was going to explode.RiotZact said:
Holy shit you can’t be serious. D-Rose was on his way to being one of the greatest players of all time. The Grant Hill/T-Mac combo would have been amazing if Grant Hill was healthy, one of the greatest “what if” duos of all time (2nd only to the T-Mac/Iverson duo that Stephen A. fucking Smith ruined!!). Not saying that load management would have fixed either of those, but to act like their careers weren’t wildly affected by nagging injuries in their primes is just laughable. Countless others as well, those were just 2 I thought of off the top of my head.pjhawks said:
Grant Hill played 18 years in the NBA and played 82, 81 and 80 games in his 14th, 15th and 16th seasons in the NBA. Derrick Rose blew out his knee but still has played 12 years in the league. How much else did you want those guys to play? load management for anyone under the age of 30 is a load of shit. The only thing worse than load management is how the NBA public has bought into it.RiotZact said:
Apparently, according to Doc, he was all set to play and started having some back tightness during warm ups. I’m fine with him sitting out the second game of back-to-back road games. Sure it’s annoying but how many Embiids and Kawhis have had their careers end in their mid 20s because they were overworked? What if Derrick Rose had load managed? Grant Hill? I’d rather watch a superstar get a long prime where he misses 10-15 games a year during the regular season than a short prime ended by injuries.pjhawks said:
Ridiculous 3 games into the season. Maybe if he was in shape or healthy (oh wait....) but few people seem to give a shit about his bullshit, at least Ben gets his ass on the court whenever possibleThe Juggler said:
Yup. Back to back with a game on Tuesday. They said injury to avoid a fine. Sucks, but this is what happens in the NBA.RiotZact said:
I think it was really just “load management” but they have to give it a designation. That game was painful to watch, but it happened on the same day that the Mavs beat the Clippers by 50 fucking points minus Kawhi, the full strength Nets lost to the Hornets, and the full strength Bucks got blown out at home against a Knicks team that was coming off of a back to back.pjhawks said:so it only took until the 3rd game for Embiid to miss because of injury. shocking i tell ya. of course he did miss a pre-season game because he was sick. What is the most games in a row he has actually played in?
Korkmaz out for two weeks though.
of course someone trying to tell me that Grant Hill/T-Mac along with T-Mac/Iverson would have been some of the greatest duos of all time kinds of leaves me gasping for air for that lunacy.And I never said they would have been one of the greatest duos, I said each were some of the biggest “what ifs”. With that being said, I think both would have had pretty high ceilings.0 -
I guess you missed where I said anyone under 30 missing games for load management is BS. The only reason they have to load management Embiid is because he is fat, out of shape and chronically injured. Including pre-season they have played 5 games and he has already missed two. No doubt Embiid is super talented but he is a dog. But he's funny so the fans and media don't rip him for being a dog. And the Sixers don't/haven't done load management for Ben Simmons yet in any season. I wonder why that is?The Juggler said:
Lol....every year you bring up the Embiid load management stuff as if it's some sort of indictment on only him because he is out of shape or injured or something. Yet it happens all over the league to help keep superstars healthy. It's the way things are now, just like with these other examples in baseball and football that are put in place to, essentially, prevent injuries.pjhawks said:
well bullpen games, shifts and batting for exit velocity and launch angle are pretty much ruining baseball.The Juggler said:
ok boomer. lolpjhawks said:
Grant Hill played 18 years in the NBA and played 82, 81 and 80 games in his 14th, 15th and 16th seasons in the NBA. Derrick Rose blew out his knee but still has played 12 years in the league. How much else did you want those guys to play? load management for anyone under the age of 30 is a load of shit. The only thing worse than load management is how the NBA public has bought into it.RiotZact said:
Apparently, according to Doc, he was all set to play and started having some back tightness during warm ups. I’m fine with him sitting out the second game of back-to-back road games. Sure it’s annoying but how many Embiids and Kawhis have had their careers end in their mid 20s because they were overworked? What if Derrick Rose had load managed? Grant Hill? I’d rather watch a superstar get a long prime where he misses 10-15 games a year during the regular season than a short prime ended by injuries.pjhawks said:
Ridiculous 3 games into the season. Maybe if he was in shape or healthy (oh wait....) but few people seem to give a shit about his bullshit, at least Ben gets his ass on the court whenever possibleThe Juggler said:
Yup. Back to back with a game on Tuesday. They said injury to avoid a fine. Sucks, but this is what happens in the NBA.RiotZact said:
I think it was really just “load management” but they have to give it a designation. That game was painful to watch, but it happened on the same day that the Mavs beat the Clippers by 50 fucking points minus Kawhi, the full strength Nets lost to the Hornets, and the full strength Bucks got blown out at home against a Knicks team that was coming off of a back to back.pjhawks said:so it only took until the 3rd game for Embiid to miss because of injury. shocking i tell ya. of course he did miss a pre-season game because he was sick. What is the most games in a row he has actually played in?
Korkmaz out for two weeks though.
You know what else sucks? Pitchers not completing games anymore and quarterbacks being treated as if they're wearing flags around their waists. That's just the way things are nowadays.
unfortunately if you let football players play and hit like Andre Waters used to even more NFL players would be debilitated later in life and probably some would even die on the field. I'd love to see guys be able to hit like they did in the 80s but that can never happen again.0 -
Oh my god. You are a broken record.pjhawks said:
I guess you missed where I said anyone under 30 missing games for load management is BS. The only reason they have to load management Embiid is because he is fat, out of shape and chronically injured. Including pre-season they have played 5 games and he has already missed two. No doubt Embiid is super talented but he is a dog. But he's funny so the fans and media don't rip him for being a dog. And the Sixers don't/haven't done load management for Ben Simmons yet in any season. I wonder why that is?The Juggler said:
Lol....every year you bring up the Embiid load management stuff as if it's some sort of indictment on only him because he is out of shape or injured or something. Yet it happens all over the league to help keep superstars healthy. It's the way things are now, just like with these other examples in baseball and football that are put in place to, essentially, prevent injuries.pjhawks said:
well bullpen games, shifts and batting for exit velocity and launch angle are pretty much ruining baseball.The Juggler said:
ok boomer. lolpjhawks said:
Grant Hill played 18 years in the NBA and played 82, 81 and 80 games in his 14th, 15th and 16th seasons in the NBA. Derrick Rose blew out his knee but still has played 12 years in the league. How much else did you want those guys to play? load management for anyone under the age of 30 is a load of shit. The only thing worse than load management is how the NBA public has bought into it.RiotZact said:
Apparently, according to Doc, he was all set to play and started having some back tightness during warm ups. I’m fine with him sitting out the second game of back-to-back road games. Sure it’s annoying but how many Embiids and Kawhis have had their careers end in their mid 20s because they were overworked? What if Derrick Rose had load managed? Grant Hill? I’d rather watch a superstar get a long prime where he misses 10-15 games a year during the regular season than a short prime ended by injuries.pjhawks said:
Ridiculous 3 games into the season. Maybe if he was in shape or healthy (oh wait....) but few people seem to give a shit about his bullshit, at least Ben gets his ass on the court whenever possibleThe Juggler said:
Yup. Back to back with a game on Tuesday. They said injury to avoid a fine. Sucks, but this is what happens in the NBA.RiotZact said:
I think it was really just “load management” but they have to give it a designation. That game was painful to watch, but it happened on the same day that the Mavs beat the Clippers by 50 fucking points minus Kawhi, the full strength Nets lost to the Hornets, and the full strength Bucks got blown out at home against a Knicks team that was coming off of a back to back.pjhawks said:so it only took until the 3rd game for Embiid to miss because of injury. shocking i tell ya. of course he did miss a pre-season game because he was sick. What is the most games in a row he has actually played in?
Korkmaz out for two weeks though.
You know what else sucks? Pitchers not completing games anymore and quarterbacks being treated as if they're wearing flags around their waists. That's just the way things are nowadays.
unfortunately if you let football players play and hit like Andre Waters used to even more NFL players would be debilitated later in life and probably some would even die on the field. I'd love to see guys be able to hit like they did in the 80s but that can never happen again.
I'd assume, coming off the injury last summer, that they manage Simmons' load a bit this year--especially with Doc coaching him. Wouldn't bother me in the least. I'm more concerned, however, with his inability to shoot the basketball this far into his career.
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Embiid playing Iverson minutes and getting 29 and 16. What a fatty.0
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Talk about broken record you mention Simmons shooting the ball every time. Of course why would you want a guy who can’t shoot from the outside to shoot outside? At least the coach is smart enough not to worry about itThe Juggler said:
Oh my god. You are a broken record.pjhawks said:
I guess you missed where I said anyone under 30 missing games for load management is BS. The only reason they have to load management Embiid is because he is fat, out of shape and chronically injured. Including pre-season they have played 5 games and he has already missed two. No doubt Embiid is super talented but he is a dog. But he's funny so the fans and media don't rip him for being a dog. And the Sixers don't/haven't done load management for Ben Simmons yet in any season. I wonder why that is?The Juggler said:
Lol....every year you bring up the Embiid load management stuff as if it's some sort of indictment on only him because he is out of shape or injured or something. Yet it happens all over the league to help keep superstars healthy. It's the way things are now, just like with these other examples in baseball and football that are put in place to, essentially, prevent injuries.pjhawks said:
well bullpen games, shifts and batting for exit velocity and launch angle are pretty much ruining baseball.The Juggler said:
ok boomer. lolpjhawks said:
Grant Hill played 18 years in the NBA and played 82, 81 and 80 games in his 14th, 15th and 16th seasons in the NBA. Derrick Rose blew out his knee but still has played 12 years in the league. How much else did you want those guys to play? load management for anyone under the age of 30 is a load of shit. The only thing worse than load management is how the NBA public has bought into it.RiotZact said:
Apparently, according to Doc, he was all set to play and started having some back tightness during warm ups. I’m fine with him sitting out the second game of back-to-back road games. Sure it’s annoying but how many Embiids and Kawhis have had their careers end in their mid 20s because they were overworked? What if Derrick Rose had load managed? Grant Hill? I’d rather watch a superstar get a long prime where he misses 10-15 games a year during the regular season than a short prime ended by injuries.pjhawks said:
Ridiculous 3 games into the season. Maybe if he was in shape or healthy (oh wait....) but few people seem to give a shit about his bullshit, at least Ben gets his ass on the court whenever possibleThe Juggler said:
Yup. Back to back with a game on Tuesday. They said injury to avoid a fine. Sucks, but this is what happens in the NBA.RiotZact said:
I think it was really just “load management” but they have to give it a designation. That game was painful to watch, but it happened on the same day that the Mavs beat the Clippers by 50 fucking points minus Kawhi, the full strength Nets lost to the Hornets, and the full strength Bucks got blown out at home against a Knicks team that was coming off of a back to back.pjhawks said:so it only took until the 3rd game for Embiid to miss because of injury. shocking i tell ya. of course he did miss a pre-season game because he was sick. What is the most games in a row he has actually played in?
Korkmaz out for two weeks though.
You know what else sucks? Pitchers not completing games anymore and quarterbacks being treated as if they're wearing flags around their waists. That's just the way things are nowadays.
unfortunately if you let football players play and hit like Andre Waters used to even more NFL players would be debilitated later in life and probably some would even die on the field. I'd love to see guys be able to hit like they did in the 80s but that can never happen again.
I'd assume, coming off the injury last summer, that they manage Simmons' load a bit this year--especially with Doc coaching him. Wouldn't bother me in the least. I'm more concerned, however, with his inability to shoot the basketball this far into his career.
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Lol. Dude is such a beastRiotZact said:Embiid playing Iverson minutes and getting 29 and 16. What a fatty.
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^^^Yeah, but did Barkley do it if the teams first 3 games?^^^>LOL0
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Ha....probably, though he missed 14 games that season.cutz said:^^^Yeah, but did Barkley do it if the teams first 3 games?^^^>LOL
Edit---damn, that's the year Chuck averaged almost 15 rebounds a game. Still my all time favorite Sixer....
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Ben's career shooting percentage is 8% percentage points higher than Embiid's...but I'm sure you are already aware of that. Just a thought, let's have him continue taking shots he makes at a 55% clip as opposed to shots he can't make consistently.The Juggler said:
Oh my god. You are a broken record.pjhawks said:
I guess you missed where I said anyone under 30 missing games for load management is BS. The only reason they have to load management Embiid is because he is fat, out of shape and chronically injured. Including pre-season they have played 5 games and he has already missed two. No doubt Embiid is super talented but he is a dog. But he's funny so the fans and media don't rip him for being a dog. And the Sixers don't/haven't done load management for Ben Simmons yet in any season. I wonder why that is?The Juggler said:
Lol....every year you bring up the Embiid load management stuff as if it's some sort of indictment on only him because he is out of shape or injured or something. Yet it happens all over the league to help keep superstars healthy. It's the way things are now, just like with these other examples in baseball and football that are put in place to, essentially, prevent injuries.pjhawks said:
well bullpen games, shifts and batting for exit velocity and launch angle are pretty much ruining baseball.The Juggler said:
ok boomer. lolpjhawks said:
Grant Hill played 18 years in the NBA and played 82, 81 and 80 games in his 14th, 15th and 16th seasons in the NBA. Derrick Rose blew out his knee but still has played 12 years in the league. How much else did you want those guys to play? load management for anyone under the age of 30 is a load of shit. The only thing worse than load management is how the NBA public has bought into it.RiotZact said:
Apparently, according to Doc, he was all set to play and started having some back tightness during warm ups. I’m fine with him sitting out the second game of back-to-back road games. Sure it’s annoying but how many Embiids and Kawhis have had their careers end in their mid 20s because they were overworked? What if Derrick Rose had load managed? Grant Hill? I’d rather watch a superstar get a long prime where he misses 10-15 games a year during the regular season than a short prime ended by injuries.pjhawks said:
Ridiculous 3 games into the season. Maybe if he was in shape or healthy (oh wait....) but few people seem to give a shit about his bullshit, at least Ben gets his ass on the court whenever possibleThe Juggler said:
Yup. Back to back with a game on Tuesday. They said injury to avoid a fine. Sucks, but this is what happens in the NBA.RiotZact said:
I think it was really just “load management” but they have to give it a designation. That game was painful to watch, but it happened on the same day that the Mavs beat the Clippers by 50 fucking points minus Kawhi, the full strength Nets lost to the Hornets, and the full strength Bucks got blown out at home against a Knicks team that was coming off of a back to back.pjhawks said:so it only took until the 3rd game for Embiid to miss because of injury. shocking i tell ya. of course he did miss a pre-season game because he was sick. What is the most games in a row he has actually played in?
Korkmaz out for two weeks though.
You know what else sucks? Pitchers not completing games anymore and quarterbacks being treated as if they're wearing flags around their waists. That's just the way things are nowadays.
unfortunately if you let football players play and hit like Andre Waters used to even more NFL players would be debilitated later in life and probably some would even die on the field. I'd love to see guys be able to hit like they did in the 80s but that can never happen again.
I'd assume, coming off the injury last summer, that they manage Simmons' load a bit this year--especially with Doc coaching him. Wouldn't bother me in the least. I'm more concerned, however, with his inability to shoot the basketball this far into his career.
Bounce back game tonight. Go Sixers.0 -
You can’t compare their shooting percentages since one refuses to shoot outside of 4 feet. A franchise point guard that refuses to shoot is troublesome.
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And Hawks is someone who actually knows about basketball. I think Ben has taken one shot outside of the paint in four games. It was at the elbow and, I believe, it was in the first quarter of the first game.Cliffy6745 said:You can’t compare their shooting percentages since one refuses to shoot outside of 4 feet. A franchise point guard that refuses to shoot is troublesome.
I am not as opposed to harden as I was a few weeks ago
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Same here. I still hate him, but watching Embiid bust his ass for 38 minutes in game 4 of the regular season was just hard to watch. He needs help.0
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Take the night and run, MOTHERFUCKERS
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I think the fireworks are for Ben...
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Uh oh mrs juggler better watch out tonight, Ben hit a three so mr juggler is gonna be feeling awfully randy tonight
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If I’m only taking twos I wanna be close as possible. Shooting from 4 feet and in is a good thing not something to snicker at.Cliffy6745 said:You can’t compare their shooting percentages since one refuses to shoot outside of 4 feet. A franchise point guard that refuses to shoot is troublesome.
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He’s a number one pick on max contract...pjhawks said:
If I’m only taking twos I wanna be close as possible. Shooting from 4 feet and in is a good thing not something to snicker at.Cliffy6745 said:You can’t compare their shooting percentages since one refuses to shoot outside of 4 feet. A franchise point guard that refuses to shoot is troublesome.
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No respect, I tells ya.Cliffy6745 said:
He’s a number one pick on max contract...pjhawks said:
If I’m only taking twos I wanna be close as possible. Shooting from 4 feet and in is a good thing not something to snicker at.Cliffy6745 said:You can’t compare their shooting percentages since one refuses to shoot outside of 4 feet. A franchise point guard that refuses to shoot is troublesome.
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Again, basketball is the sport he knows the most about.Jearlpam0925 said:
No respect, I tells ya.Cliffy6745 said:
He’s a number one pick on max contract...pjhawks said:
If I’m only taking twos I wanna be close as possible. Shooting from 4 feet and in is a good thing not something to snicker at.Cliffy6745 said:You can’t compare their shooting percentages since one refuses to shoot outside of 4 feet. A franchise point guard that refuses to shoot is troublesome.
I am not as opposed to harden as I was a few weeks agohahaha
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