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Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,538
    Biden
    https://twitter.com/johnastoehr/status/1337466677374545920?s=21

    “Suicide bombers” is the best description I’ve heard to date for the house republicans & anyone else backing Trump’s efforts to overthrow the election. Does anyone really expect these people to move forward and work in good faith with the Biden administration?
    i'm not a big fan of the political theatre that is CNN editorializing, but jake tapper  did a great piece called "Thank  you President Trump". he started with actual trump accomplishments, but then went on to thank trump for letting partisan treasonous (my word) republicans who have shown the world who they are, that they put party over country, and were willing to go to any lengths to retain power in the WH, by signing on to trump's last attempt at subverting democracy. 

    126 of them. unreal. 
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South PhillyPosts: 13,264
    Biden
    About to make $3k+ off of this election. This is the best betting market to take advantage of irrational bettors.
  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere.Posts: 4,464
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,538
    Biden
    Stephen Miller says "alternate slate of electors" will choose trump and be sent to congress. these people should be charged with treason, seriously. 
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  • mrussel1 said:
    That article saved the best line for last: 

    "[Biden's] victory was certified last month after a partial state recount verified and even extended his lead over Trump."

  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,608
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  • Stephen Miller says "alternate slate of electors" will choose trump and be sent to congress. these people should be charged with treason, seriously. 
    Agreed, if there's no repercussions for these actions, there's nothing stopping these people (or others) from doing it again. 

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,538
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,706
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Yes, maybe.  Whether some of the practices are legal in the state are a relevant argument.  The question is really about the relief being sought.  Did the 3 dissenters believe that 220k votes should be disqualified for following the process put forth by the state's election board?  We don't know.  You could rule the practices as unconstitutional in the state but provide no relief, simply mandating a change for the next election. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,706
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,608
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,706
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
    No you were right.  It was heard.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,706
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
    And Wisconsin has officially voted for Biden in the EC.  It's done and done. 
  • OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
    As I understand it, this was a fun side note from SCOTUS' ruling on Texas' lawsuit Friday night. 

    7 judges refused to hear the case based on standing alone. 2 said they would have heard it, but would have dismissed it, which I believe is more a statement to the merits of the case (or lack thereof) as opposed to the standing. 

    (If I have this wrong, feel free to correct, I'm far from an expert in these things)

  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,608
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
    And Wisconsin has officially voted for Biden in the EC.  It's done and done. 

    That I knew. Though I've seen mixed messages. Sometimes I hear we know THAT the electors are voting today but not WHO they vote for until the January 6 meetings.

    It's kind of hard to deny that this is the most archaic convoluted mess of a way for an election to go down, even if the norms do hold up. But I miss the days when we didn't follow it so closely because we didn't need to.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,447
    Biden
    So Trump is set to lose again today, huh? So much losing!
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,538
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
    And Wisconsin has officially voted for Biden in the EC.  It's done and done. 

    That I knew. Though I've seen mixed messages. Sometimes I hear we know THAT the electors are voting today but not WHO they vote for until the January 6 meetings.

    It's kind of hard to deny that this is the most archaic convoluted mess of a way for an election to go down, even if the norms do hold up. But I miss the days when we didn't follow it so closely because we didn't need to.
    that's just it. when did anyone ever pay attention to the EC vote except hardcore political nerds?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,706
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
    As I understand it, this was a fun side note from SCOTUS' ruling on Texas' lawsuit Friday night. 

    7 judges refused to hear the case based on standing alone. 2 said they would have heard it, but would have dismissed it, which I believe is more a statement to the merits of the case (or lack thereof) as opposed to the standing. 

    (If I have this wrong, feel free to correct, I'm far from an expert in these things)
    Yes, that's right for the US SCOTUS.  But to be super accurate, the two dissenting judges only said they would deny injunctive relief.  That's basically saying they would not have stopped any processes for the EC.  That usually means the case was unlikely to succeed in the eyes of the judges.  The two justices feel that any  case where they have original jurisdiction (State vs a state) should be heard.  

    The ruling today was from WI supreme court.  
  • cutzcutz Posts: 10,052
    Stephen Miller says "alternate slate of electors" will choose trump and be sent to congress. these people should be charged with treason, seriously. 
    Agreed, if there's no repercussions for these actions, there's nothing stopping these people (or others) from doing it again. 

  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 18,555
    Biden

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,447
    Biden
    cutz said:
    Stephen Miller says "alternate slate of electors" will choose trump and be sent to congress. these people should be charged with treason, seriously. 
    Agreed, if there's no repercussions for these actions, there's nothing stopping these people (or others) from doing it again. 

    LOlz
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  • CYA Barr gets the boot. Or a very small foot up his ass. Buh bye billy.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 18,555
    Biden
    biden wins again!!!

    for the 95th time!!!


    man i am so fucking sick of winning.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,706
    Biden
    biden wins again!!!

    for the 95th time!!!


    man i am so fucking sick of winning.
    Ha! That's exactly right! Every day is a new victory over Trump!
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,608
    Biden
    CYA Barr gets the boot. Or a very small foot up his ass. Buh bye billy.
    As evidenced by the attorneys backing Trump on the personal side, I highly doubt there's anyone around with the combination of devotion and legal competence that Barr had.  Any attempt to replace him with someone that will get this election flipped should be amusing. And the cult should be presently surprised if that person walks on two legs.
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  • OnWis97 said:
    CYA Barr gets the boot. Or a very small foot up his ass. Buh bye billy.
    As evidenced by the attorneys backing Trump on the personal side, I highly doubt there's anyone around with the combination of devotion and legal competence that Barr had.  Any attempt to replace him with someone that will get this election flipped should be amusing. And the cult should be presently surprised if that person walks on two legs.
    I heard Jeff Sessions is available as is Ted Crud. Michael Cohen as well, unless he’s been debarred. Ruddy Ghouliani will be recovered soon and could use a pension.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,538
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    Biden
    why even bother to fire the guy with a fucking month left to go? what a fucking loser. obviously for two reasons; to get a win on the same day the coffin of his presidency finally slammed shut, and barr didn't tow the trumpany line the last few weeks. 

    maybe george conway is up for the job next. 

    edit: just saw trump says he resigned. and his tweet about it was actually quite positive. i was under the impression from the posts here that he was fired. 
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 8,584
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    biden wins again!!!

    for the 95th time!!!


    man i am so fucking sick of winning.
    Ha! That's exactly right! Every day is a new victory over Trump!
    One more loss and he gets relegated to a lower division.
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