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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Biden
    Merkin Baller said:
    https://twitter.com/johnastoehr/status/1337466677374545920?s=21

    “Suicide bombers” is the best description I’ve heard to date for the house republicans & anyone else backing Trump’s efforts to overthrow the election. Does anyone really expect these people to move forward and work in good faith with the Biden administration?
    i'm not a big fan of the political theatre that is CNN editorializing, but jake tapper  did a great piece called "Thank  you President Trump". he started with actual trump accomplishments, but then went on to thank trump for letting partisan treasonous (my word) republicans who have shown the world who they are, that they put party over country, and were willing to go to any lengths to retain power in the WH, by signing on to trump's last attempt at subverting democracy. 

    126 of them. unreal. 
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,516
    Biden
    About to make $3k+ off of this election. This is the best betting market to take advantage of irrational bettors.
  • Kat
    Kat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,955
    Biden
    Electoral College vote: State by state

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/politics/2020-electoral-college-vote-tracker/index.html


    Falling down,...not staying down
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Biden
    Stephen Miller says "alternate slate of electors" will choose trump and be sent to congress. these people should be charged with treason, seriously. 
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
    That article saved the best line for last: 

    "[Biden's] victory was certified last month after a partial state recount verified and even extended his lead over Trump."
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
    4-3.  Frightening.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Stephen Miller says "alternate slate of electors" will choose trump and be sent to congress. these people should be charged with treason, seriously. 
    Agreed, if there's no repercussions for these actions, there's nothing stopping these people (or others) from doing it again. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
    4-3.  Frightening.
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
    4-3.  Frightening.
    Yes, maybe.  Whether some of the practices are legal in the state are a relevant argument.  The question is really about the relief being sought.  Did the 3 dissenters believe that 220k votes should be disqualified for following the process put forth by the state's election board?  We don't know.  You could rule the practices as unconstitutional in the state but provide no relief, simply mandating a change for the next election. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
    4-3.  Frightening.
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
    4-3.  Frightening.
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
    4-3.  Frightening.
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
    No you were right.  It was heard.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
    4-3.  Frightening.
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
    And Wisconsin has officially voted for Biden in the EC.  It's done and done. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
    4-3.  Frightening.
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
    As I understand it, this was a fun side note from SCOTUS' ruling on Texas' lawsuit Friday night. 

    7 judges refused to hear the case based on standing alone. 2 said they would have heard it, but would have dismissed it, which I believe is more a statement to the merits of the case (or lack thereof) as opposed to the standing. 

    (If I have this wrong, feel free to correct, I'm far from an expert in these things)
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
    4-3.  Frightening.
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
    And Wisconsin has officially voted for Biden in the EC.  It's done and done. 

    That I knew. Though I've seen mixed messages. Sometimes I hear we know THAT the electors are voting today but not WHO they vote for until the January 6 meetings.

    It's kind of hard to deny that this is the most archaic convoluted mess of a way for an election to go down, even if the norms do hold up. But I miss the days when we didn't follow it so closely because we didn't need to.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    So Trump is set to lose again today, huh? So much losing!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
    4-3.  Frightening.
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
    And Wisconsin has officially voted for Biden in the EC.  It's done and done. 

    That I knew. Though I've seen mixed messages. Sometimes I hear we know THAT the electors are voting today but not WHO they vote for until the January 6 meetings.

    It's kind of hard to deny that this is the most archaic convoluted mess of a way for an election to go down, even if the norms do hold up. But I miss the days when we didn't follow it so closely because we didn't need to.
    that's just it. when did anyone ever pay attention to the EC vote except hardcore political nerds?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Merkin Baller said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another delicious loss for Trump! 

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530107-wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-trump-effort-to-overturn-biden-win
    4-3.  Frightening.
    how is that frightening? the burden to prove a case is worthy of looking at is substantially less than the burden to prove the case itself. highly unlikely the case would have gone 4-3. 
    The merits of this case were reviewed.  It wasn't thrown out for lack of standing.  I read that arguments were heard Saturday.

    I guess I should have read closer...I viewed it as "the case" and apparently it was "whether we'll hear the case."
    As I understand it, this was a fun side note from SCOTUS' ruling on Texas' lawsuit Friday night. 

    7 judges refused to hear the case based on standing alone. 2 said they would have heard it, but would have dismissed it, which I believe is more a statement to the merits of the case (or lack thereof) as opposed to the standing. 

    (If I have this wrong, feel free to correct, I'm far from an expert in these things)
    Yes, that's right for the US SCOTUS.  But to be super accurate, the two dissenting judges only said they would deny injunctive relief.  That's basically saying they would not have stopped any processes for the EC.  That usually means the case was unlikely to succeed in the eyes of the judges.  The two justices feel that any  case where they have original jurisdiction (State vs a state) should be heard.  

    The ruling today was from WI supreme court.  
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,227
    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Stephen Miller says "alternate slate of electors" will choose trump and be sent to congress. these people should be charged with treason, seriously. 
    Agreed, if there's no repercussions for these actions, there's nothing stopping these people (or others) from doing it again. 

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