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            Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this.
 Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them.0
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 Unfortunately for you, the discussion is already happening.Merkin Baller said:The Juggler said:
 Enjoy the 6. Nothing's better than the first though. God speed!Halifax2TheMax said:
 6 baby, 6. Where’s that “dynasty?” Oh yea, baaaaaaaaad things happen there.The Juggler said:
 Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGSHalifax2TheMax said:“People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler
 BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 
 When your team wins 6 in 20 years, we can have that conversation.That 4th one against Seattle is far & away my favorite of the 6. www.myspace.com0
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 lolThe Juggler said:
 Unfortunately for you, the discussion is already happening.Merkin Baller said:The Juggler said:
 Enjoy the 6. Nothing's better than the first though. God speed!Halifax2TheMax said:
 6 baby, 6. Where’s that “dynasty?” Oh yea, baaaaaaaaad things happen there.The Juggler said:
 Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGSHalifax2TheMax said:“People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler
 BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 
 When your team wins 6 in 20 years, we can have that conversation.That 4th one against Seattle is far & away my favorite of the 6. 0
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 The tuck rule snow bowl and 3-28 and The Pick. Tough choices.Merkin Baller said:The Juggler said:
 Enjoy the 6. Nothing's better than the first though. God speed!Halifax2TheMax said:
 6 baby, 6. Where’s that “dynasty?” Oh yea, baaaaaaaaad things happen there.The Juggler said:
 Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGSHalifax2TheMax said:“People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler
 BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 
 When your team wins 6 in 20 years, we can have that conversation.That 4th one against Seattle is far & away my favorite of the 6. 09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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            BidenMerkin Baller said:Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this.
 Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them.
 I don't think it was planned by Trump or understood by his followers and the GQP in 2015 but Trump's ability to be the victim and to make others feel like victims might be the most important element to the unprecedented level of devotion we're seeing.
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            OnWis97 said:Merkin Baller said:Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this.
 Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them.
 I don't think it was planned by Trump or understood by his followers and the GQP in 2015 but Trump's ability to be the victim and to make others feel like victims might be the most important element to the unprecedented level of devotion we're seeing.I disagree, I think Trump has been playing the victim since day one & plenty of his followers have followed suit. 
 A former friend who turned into a huge trumper told me at the 2016 election verbatim: "No one in America has it harder than the middle class white male right now."
 Perceived victimhood is ingrained in this movement.0
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 I actually think that victimhood is sort of a crutch held by people of all kinds. So in a sense, this isn't surprising. Your former friend's statement, while particularly hyperbolic, is kind of an unpolished or over-the-top version of crap I've been hearing for decades. It's kind of an extension of the whole "I worked my ASS off with no help from anyone" line you get from people that almost always had some help. "I do so much and get so little thanks to (insert scapegoat)." And of course these are the same people that accuse others of playing the victim. It's really an ego boost to think you've overcome so much and if the world was fair, you'd be on top of the world.Merkin Baller said:OnWis97 said:Merkin Baller said:Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this.
 Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them.
 I don't think it was planned by Trump or understood by his followers and the GQP in 2015 but Trump's ability to be the victim and to make others feel like victims might be the most important element to the unprecedented level of devotion we're seeing.I disagree, I think Trump has been playing the victim since day one & plenty of his followers have followed suit. 
 A former friend who turned into a huge trumper told me at the 2016 election verbatim: "No one in America has it harder than the middle class white male right now."
 Perceived victimhood is ingrained in this movement.
 So in a sense you're right. But I don't think bringing Trump in because he was a whiner was really what happened. I think they kind of struck gold by accident when Trump really got going with all the bitching, whining, and moaning. Maybe I was just naive but I kind of thought that acting like a big baby all the time was going to hurt him...obviously not, his devotees view it as strength. Or they at least view it as relatable, since they too are victims of (scapegoats).
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 He literally promised to build a wall between us & Mexico.OnWis97 said:
 I actually think that victimhood is sort of a crutch held by people of all kinds. So in a sense, this isn't surprising. Your former friend's statement, while particularly hyperbolic, is kind of an unpolished or over-the-top version of crap I've been hearing for decades. It's kind of an extension of the whole "I worked my ASS off with no help from anyone" line you get from people that almost always had some help. "I do so much and get so little thanks to (insert scapegoat)." And of course these are the same people that accuse others of playing the victim. It's really an ego boost to think you've overcome so much and if the world was fair, you'd be on top of the world.Merkin Baller said:OnWis97 said:Merkin Baller said:Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this.
 Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them.
 I don't think it was planned by Trump or understood by his followers and the GQP in 2015 but Trump's ability to be the victim and to make others feel like victims might be the most important element to the unprecedented level of devotion we're seeing.I disagree, I think Trump has been playing the victim since day one & plenty of his followers have followed suit. 
 A former friend who turned into a huge trumper told me at the 2016 election verbatim: "No one in America has it harder than the middle class white male right now."
 Perceived victimhood is ingrained in this movement.
 So in a sense you're right. But I don't think bringing Trump in because he was a whiner was really what happened. I think they kind of struck gold by accident when Trump really got going with all the bitching, whining, and moaning. Maybe I was just naive but I kind of thought that acting like a big baby all the time was going to hurt him...obviously not, his devotees view it as strength. Or they at least view it as relatable, since they too are victims of (scapegoats).
 White victimhood was a staple of his campaign.0
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            GA just certified its results.0
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 I agree with you that I don't think its legit. I also think it if were real, it would be easy to prove. I don't know how they would get the algorithm and decipher it, I'm not a hacker, but if it existed, you don't think the head of the country could figure it out and trace ballots back and see if any were switched? If it did exist I don't see it being that difficult for top tech guys to figure out which votes were changed over The fact they haven't presented solid evidence of said algorithm leads me to believe that it doesn't exist. Because if it did, they'd find it and release it.mrussel1 said:
 How in the world would they get to the source code to decipher said algorithm? It's a farce, in the same league as bringing in Soros and Hugo Chavez into the conspiracy.mace1229 said:Just about all of the claims made today should be easily proveable. Even if proven true, most don’t see like a big enough scale to change the election. But should definitely hold those individuals accountable if they falsified information on ballots and post marked dates, etc. Thousands of ballots being dropped off with only a vote for Biden, ballots being run 3 or 4 times, all should be easily proveable.
 The only allocation that seems likely to alter the results is the algorithm that changes votes from Trump to Biden. Claiming they only caught it because Trump won so many votes that it threw the algorithm off or whatever she said. That should be one of the easiest ones to prove.
 So either they provide all the evidence they claim to have and the courts and officials will be forced to overturn the results, or nothing comes of this at all and Biden is inaugurated.
 My guess is if they had the proof, other than affidavits from individuals, they would have already shared that. They would have shown the algorithm they uncovered and exactly which votes got switched by now if they had that information. They’d be sharing all the information they have to embarrass as many people as they can.
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            Bidenall of this is designed to convince the public that what they are saying is true. it's all they have left.
 if you can't win, start a war. scorched earth. bannon is laughing.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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            Biden
 In my opinion you've analyzed this far too much already. It was bullshit from the start.mace1229 said:
 I agree with you that I don't think its legit. I also think it if were real, it would be easy to prove. I don't know how they would get the algorithm and decipher it, I'm not a hacker, but if it existed, you don't think the head of the country could figure it out and trace ballots back and see if any were switched? If it did exist I don't see it being that difficult for top tech guys to figure out which votes were changed over The fact they haven't presented solid evidence of said algorithm leads me to believe that it doesn't exist. Because if it did, they'd find it and release it.mrussel1 said:
 How in the world would they get to the source code to decipher said algorithm? It's a farce, in the same league as bringing in Soros and Hugo Chavez into the conspiracy.mace1229 said:Just about all of the claims made today should be easily proveable. Even if proven true, most don’t see like a big enough scale to change the election. But should definitely hold those individuals accountable if they falsified information on ballots and post marked dates, etc. Thousands of ballots being dropped off with only a vote for Biden, ballots being run 3 or 4 times, all should be easily proveable.
 The only allocation that seems likely to alter the results is the algorithm that changes votes from Trump to Biden. Claiming they only caught it because Trump won so many votes that it threw the algorithm off or whatever she said. That should be one of the easiest ones to prove.
 So either they provide all the evidence they claim to have and the courts and officials will be forced to overturn the results, or nothing comes of this at all and Biden is inaugurated.
 My guess is if they had the proof, other than affidavits from individuals, they would have already shared that. They would have shown the algorithm they uncovered and exactly which votes got switched by now if they had that information. They’d be sharing all the information they have to embarrass as many people as they can.0
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            Biden
 It reminds me of what Tucker Carlson said about it last night.mrussel1 said:
 In my opinion you've analyzed this far too much already. It was bullshit from the start.mace1229 said:
 I agree with you that I don't think its legit. I also think it if were real, it would be easy to prove. I don't know how they would get the algorithm and decipher it, I'm not a hacker, but if it existed, you don't think the head of the country could figure it out and trace ballots back and see if any were switched? If it did exist I don't see it being that difficult for top tech guys to figure out which votes were changed over The fact they haven't presented solid evidence of said algorithm leads me to believe that it doesn't exist. Because if it did, they'd find it and release it.mrussel1 said:
 How in the world would they get to the source code to decipher said algorithm? It's a farce, in the same league as bringing in Soros and Hugo Chavez into the conspiracy.mace1229 said:Just about all of the claims made today should be easily proveable. Even if proven true, most don’t see like a big enough scale to change the election. But should definitely hold those individuals accountable if they falsified information on ballots and post marked dates, etc. Thousands of ballots being dropped off with only a vote for Biden, ballots being run 3 or 4 times, all should be easily proveable.
 The only allocation that seems likely to alter the results is the algorithm that changes votes from Trump to Biden. Claiming they only caught it because Trump won so many votes that it threw the algorithm off or whatever she said. That should be one of the easiest ones to prove.
 So either they provide all the evidence they claim to have and the courts and officials will be forced to overturn the results, or nothing comes of this at all and Biden is inaugurated.
 My guess is if they had the proof, other than affidavits from individuals, they would have already shared that. They would have shown the algorithm they uncovered and exactly which votes got switched by now if they had that information. They’d be sharing all the information they have to embarrass as many people as they can.
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            BidenI don't know if what this random tweeter says is true, but if so, It's peak Trump Legal Circus.these idiotsBREAKING Trump legal team referenced THE WRONG STATE in their suit They confused Michigan & Minnesota but the places they alleged cast more votes than residents are in the part of Minnesota that voted red. Trump's lawyers just accidentally accused him of cheating..
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 Its true and its hilarious.OnWis97 said:I don't know if what this random tweeter says is true, but if so, It's peak Trump Legal Circus.these idiotsBREAKING Trump legal team referenced THE WRONG STATE in their suit They confused Michigan & Minnesota but the places they alleged cast more votes than residents are in the part of Minnesota that voted red. Trump's lawyers just accidentally accused him of cheating..
 Also unrelated but I did not want to double post. There are probably millions of this guy out there in the USA. He is not acting and actually believes in this shit.
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            BidenPJNB said:
 Its true and its hilarious.OnWis97 said:I don't know if what this random tweeter says is true, but if so, It's peak Trump Legal Circus.these idiotsBREAKING Trump legal team referenced THE WRONG STATE in their suit They confused Michigan & Minnesota but the places they alleged cast more votes than residents are in the part of Minnesota that voted red. Trump's lawyers just accidentally accused him of cheating..
 Also unrelated but I did not want to double post. There are probably millions of this guy out there in the USA. He is not acting and actually believes in this shit.Whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!    Whoa! Whoa! 
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 some sick fucks out there. get help, jesus.PJNB said:
 Its true and its hilarious.OnWis97 said:I don't know if what this random tweeter says is true, but if so, It's peak Trump Legal Circus.these idiotsBREAKING Trump legal team referenced THE WRONG STATE in their suit They confused Michigan & Minnesota but the places they alleged cast more votes than residents are in the part of Minnesota that voted red. Trump's lawyers just accidentally accused him of cheating..
 Also unrelated but I did not want to double post. There are probably millions of this guy out there in the USA. He is not acting and actually believes in this shit.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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 "I love the poorly educated."PJNB said:
 Its true and its hilarious.OnWis97 said:I don't know if what this random tweeter says is true, but if so, It's peak Trump Legal Circus.these idiotsBREAKING Trump legal team referenced THE WRONG STATE in their suit They confused Michigan & Minnesota but the places they alleged cast more votes than residents are in the part of Minnesota that voted red. Trump's lawyers just accidentally accused him of cheating..
 Also unrelated but I did not want to double post. There are probably millions of this guy out there in the USA. He is not acting and actually believes in this shit.0
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            Biden
 When HRC supporters cried (and were made fun of for doing so) they were concerned for their country. This guy...not so much.Merkin Baller said:
 "I love the poorly educated."PJNB said:
 Its true and its hilarious.OnWis97 said:I don't know if what this random tweeter says is true, but if so, It's peak Trump Legal Circus.these idiotsBREAKING Trump legal team referenced THE WRONG STATE in their suit They confused Michigan & Minnesota but the places they alleged cast more votes than residents are in the part of Minnesota that voted red. Trump's lawyers just accidentally accused him of cheating..
 Also unrelated but I did not want to double post. There are probably millions of this guy out there in the USA. He is not acting and actually believes in this shit.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0
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