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  • Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this. 

    Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them. 

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    “People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGS


    6 baby, 6. Where’s that “dynasty?” Oh yea, baaaaaaaaad things happen there.
    Enjoy the 6. Nothing's better than the first though. God speed!


    When your team wins 6 in 20 years, we can have that conversation.

    That 4th one against Seattle is far & away my favorite of the 6.

    Unfortunately for you, the discussion is already happening. 
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  • “People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGS


    6 baby, 6. Where’s that “dynasty?” Oh yea, baaaaaaaaad things happen there.
    Enjoy the 6. Nothing's better than the first though. God speed!


    When your team wins 6 in 20 years, we can have that conversation.

    That 4th one against Seattle is far & away my favorite of the 6.

    Unfortunately for you, the discussion is already happening. 
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  • “People coming over from Camden to vote happens all the time. It’s as common as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagles football game.” @The Juggler

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Bad things happen here, man. BAAAAAAAD THINGS


    6 baby, 6. Where’s that “dynasty?” Oh yea, baaaaaaaaad things happen there.
    Enjoy the 6. Nothing's better than the first though. God speed!


    When your team wins 6 in 20 years, we can have that conversation.

    That 4th one against Seattle is far & away my favorite of the 6.

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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this. 

    Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them. 


    I don't think it was planned by Trump or understood by his followers and the GQP in 2015 but Trump's ability to be the victim and to make others feel like victims might be the most important element to the unprecedented level of devotion we're seeing.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    edited November 2020
    OnWis97 said:
    Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this. 

    Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them. 


    I don't think it was planned by Trump or understood by his followers and the GQP in 2015 but Trump's ability to be the victim and to make others feel like victims might be the most important element to the unprecedented level of devotion we're seeing.

    I disagree, I think Trump has been playing the victim since day one & plenty of his followers have followed suit.

    A former friend who turned into a huge trumper told me at the 2016 election verbatim: "No one in America has it harder than the middle class white male right now."


    Perceived victimhood is ingrained in this movement.

  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this. 

    Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them. 


    I don't think it was planned by Trump or understood by his followers and the GQP in 2015 but Trump's ability to be the victim and to make others feel like victims might be the most important element to the unprecedented level of devotion we're seeing.

    I disagree, I think Trump has been playing the victim since day one & plenty of his followers have followed suit.

    A former friend who turned into a huge trumper told me at the 2016 election verbatim: "No one in America has it harder than the middle class white male right now."


    Perceived victimhood is ingrained in this movement.

    I actually think that victimhood is sort of a crutch held by people of all kinds. So in a sense, this isn't surprising.  Your former friend's statement, while particularly hyperbolic, is kind of an unpolished or over-the-top version of crap I've been hearing for decades. It's kind of an extension of the whole "I worked my ASS off with no help from anyone" line you get from people that almost always had some help. "I do so much and get so little thanks to (insert scapegoat)." And of course these are the same people that accuse others of playing the victim. It's really an ego boost to think you've overcome so much and if the world was fair, you'd be on top of the world.

    So in a sense you're right.  But I don't think bringing Trump in because he was a whiner was really what happened.  I think they kind of struck gold by accident when Trump really got going with all the bitching, whining, and moaning. Maybe I was just naive but I kind of thought that acting like a big baby all the time was going to hurt him...obviously not, his devotees view it as strength. Or they at least view it as relatable, since they too are victims of (scapegoats).
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  • OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Back to the matter at hand: the GOP and American conservatives are the real victims in all of this. 

    Victims of liberal policies, victims of liberal elitism, victims to the whims of the majority of American voters. Poor, poor, poor conservatives, such victims, let’s all say a prayer for them. 


    I don't think it was planned by Trump or understood by his followers and the GQP in 2015 but Trump's ability to be the victim and to make others feel like victims might be the most important element to the unprecedented level of devotion we're seeing.

    I disagree, I think Trump has been playing the victim since day one & plenty of his followers have followed suit.

    A former friend who turned into a huge trumper told me at the 2016 election verbatim: "No one in America has it harder than the middle class white male right now."


    Perceived victimhood is ingrained in this movement.

    I actually think that victimhood is sort of a crutch held by people of all kinds. So in a sense, this isn't surprising.  Your former friend's statement, while particularly hyperbolic, is kind of an unpolished or over-the-top version of crap I've been hearing for decades. It's kind of an extension of the whole "I worked my ASS off with no help from anyone" line you get from people that almost always had some help. "I do so much and get so little thanks to (insert scapegoat)." And of course these are the same people that accuse others of playing the victim. It's really an ego boost to think you've overcome so much and if the world was fair, you'd be on top of the world.

    So in a sense you're right.  But I don't think bringing Trump in because he was a whiner was really what happened.  I think they kind of struck gold by accident when Trump really got going with all the bitching, whining, and moaning. Maybe I was just naive but I kind of thought that acting like a big baby all the time was going to hurt him...obviously not, his devotees view it as strength. Or they at least view it as relatable, since they too are victims of (scapegoats).
    He literally promised to build a wall between us & Mexico. 

    White victimhood was a staple of his campaign. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    GA just certified its results. 
  • Kat
    Kat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,955
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    GA just certified its results. 
    Thereby letting all candidates in Georgia know that they'll have to beat their opponent fair and square while that official is in charge. Take that, wannabe cheaters.
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Just about all of the claims made today should be easily proveable. Even if proven true, most don’t see like a big enough scale to change the election. But should definitely hold those individuals accountable if they falsified information on ballots and post marked dates, etc. Thousands of ballots being dropped off with only a vote for Biden, ballots being run 3 or 4 times, all should be easily proveable.
    The only allocation that seems likely to alter the results is the algorithm that changes votes from Trump to Biden. Claiming they only caught it because Trump won so many votes that it threw the algorithm off or whatever she said. That should be one of the easiest ones to prove.
    So either they provide all the evidence they claim to have and the courts and officials will be forced to overturn the results, or nothing comes of this at all and Biden is inaugurated.

    My guess is if they had the proof, other than affidavits from individuals, they would have already shared that. They would have shown the algorithm they uncovered and exactly which votes got switched by now if they had that information. They’d be sharing all the information they have to embarrass as many people as they can.
    How in the world would they get to the source code to decipher said algorithm? It's a farce,  in the same league as bringing in Soros and Hugo Chavez into the conspiracy. 
    I agree with you that I don't think its legit. I also think it if were real, it would be easy to prove. I don't know how they would get the algorithm and decipher it, I'm not a hacker, but if it existed, you don't think the head of the country could figure it out and trace ballots back and see if any were switched? If it did exist I don't see it being that difficult for top tech guys to figure out which votes were changed over The fact they haven't presented solid evidence of said algorithm leads me to believe that it doesn't exist. Because if it did, they'd find it and release it. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Biden
    all of this is designed to convince the public that what they are saying is true. it's all they have left. 

    if you can't win, start a war. scorched earth. bannon is laughing. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Just about all of the claims made today should be easily proveable. Even if proven true, most don’t see like a big enough scale to change the election. But should definitely hold those individuals accountable if they falsified information on ballots and post marked dates, etc. Thousands of ballots being dropped off with only a vote for Biden, ballots being run 3 or 4 times, all should be easily proveable.
    The only allocation that seems likely to alter the results is the algorithm that changes votes from Trump to Biden. Claiming they only caught it because Trump won so many votes that it threw the algorithm off or whatever she said. That should be one of the easiest ones to prove.
    So either they provide all the evidence they claim to have and the courts and officials will be forced to overturn the results, or nothing comes of this at all and Biden is inaugurated.

    My guess is if they had the proof, other than affidavits from individuals, they would have already shared that. They would have shown the algorithm they uncovered and exactly which votes got switched by now if they had that information. They’d be sharing all the information they have to embarrass as many people as they can.
    How in the world would they get to the source code to decipher said algorithm? It's a farce,  in the same league as bringing in Soros and Hugo Chavez into the conspiracy. 
    I agree with you that I don't think its legit. I also think it if were real, it would be easy to prove. I don't know how they would get the algorithm and decipher it, I'm not a hacker, but if it existed, you don't think the head of the country could figure it out and trace ballots back and see if any were switched? If it did exist I don't see it being that difficult for top tech guys to figure out which votes were changed over The fact they haven't presented solid evidence of said algorithm leads me to believe that it doesn't exist. Because if it did, they'd find it and release it. 
    In my opinion you've analyzed this far too much already.  It was bullshit from the start. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Just about all of the claims made today should be easily proveable. Even if proven true, most don’t see like a big enough scale to change the election. But should definitely hold those individuals accountable if they falsified information on ballots and post marked dates, etc. Thousands of ballots being dropped off with only a vote for Biden, ballots being run 3 or 4 times, all should be easily proveable.
    The only allocation that seems likely to alter the results is the algorithm that changes votes from Trump to Biden. Claiming they only caught it because Trump won so many votes that it threw the algorithm off or whatever she said. That should be one of the easiest ones to prove.
    So either they provide all the evidence they claim to have and the courts and officials will be forced to overturn the results, or nothing comes of this at all and Biden is inaugurated.

    My guess is if they had the proof, other than affidavits from individuals, they would have already shared that. They would have shown the algorithm they uncovered and exactly which votes got switched by now if they had that information. They’d be sharing all the information they have to embarrass as many people as they can.
    How in the world would they get to the source code to decipher said algorithm? It's a farce,  in the same league as bringing in Soros and Hugo Chavez into the conspiracy. 
    I agree with you that I don't think its legit. I also think it if were real, it would be easy to prove. I don't know how they would get the algorithm and decipher it, I'm not a hacker, but if it existed, you don't think the head of the country could figure it out and trace ballots back and see if any were switched? If it did exist I don't see it being that difficult for top tech guys to figure out which votes were changed over The fact they haven't presented solid evidence of said algorithm leads me to believe that it doesn't exist. Because if it did, they'd find it and release it. 
    In my opinion you've analyzed this far too much already.  It was bullshit from the start. 
    It reminds me of what Tucker Carlson said about it last night. 

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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    I don't know if what this random tweeter says is true, but if so, It's peak Trump Legal Circus.

    these idiots
    BREAKING Trump legal team referenced THE WRONG STATE in their suit They confused Michigan & Minnesota but the places they alleged cast more votes than residents are in the part of Minnesota that voted red. Trump's lawyers just accidentally accused him of cheating..

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't know if what this random tweeter says is true, but if so, It's peak Trump Legal Circus.

    these idiots
    BREAKING Trump legal team referenced THE WRONG STATE in their suit They confused Michigan & Minnesota but the places they alleged cast more votes than residents are in the part of Minnesota that voted red. Trump's lawyers just accidentally accused him of cheating..

    Its true and its hilarious. 

    Also unrelated but I did not want to double post. There are probably millions of this guy out there in the USA. He is not acting and actually believes in this shit. 


  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't know if what this random tweeter says is true, but if so, It's peak Trump Legal Circus.

    these idiots
    BREAKING Trump legal team referenced THE WRONG STATE in their suit They confused Michigan & Minnesota but the places they alleged cast more votes than residents are in the part of Minnesota that voted red. Trump's lawyers just accidentally accused him of cheating..

    Its true and its hilarious. 

    Also unrelated but I did not want to double post. There are probably millions of this guy out there in the USA. He is not acting and actually believes in this shit. 



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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Biden
    PJNB said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't know if what this random tweeter says is true, but if so, It's peak Trump Legal Circus.

    these idiots
    BREAKING Trump legal team referenced THE WRONG STATE in their suit They confused Michigan & Minnesota but the places they alleged cast more votes than residents are in the part of Minnesota that voted red. Trump's lawyers just accidentally accused him of cheating..

    Its true and its hilarious. 

    Also unrelated but I did not want to double post. There are probably millions of this guy out there in the USA. He is not acting and actually believes in this shit. 


    some sick fucks out there. get help, jesus. 
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  • PJNB said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't know if what this random tweeter says is true, but if so, It's peak Trump Legal Circus.

    these idiots
    BREAKING Trump legal team referenced THE WRONG STATE in their suit They confused Michigan & Minnesota but the places they alleged cast more votes than residents are in the part of Minnesota that voted red. Trump's lawyers just accidentally accused him of cheating..

    Its true and its hilarious. 

    Also unrelated but I did not want to double post. There are probably millions of this guy out there in the USA. He is not acting and actually believes in this shit. 


    "I love the poorly educated." 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't know if what this random tweeter says is true, but if so, It's peak Trump Legal Circus.

    these idiots
    BREAKING Trump legal team referenced THE WRONG STATE in their suit They confused Michigan & Minnesota but the places they alleged cast more votes than residents are in the part of Minnesota that voted red. Trump's lawyers just accidentally accused him of cheating..

    Its true and its hilarious. 

    Also unrelated but I did not want to double post. There are probably millions of this guy out there in the USA. He is not acting and actually believes in this shit. 


    "I love the poorly educated." 
    When HRC supporters cried (and were made fun of for doing so) they were concerned for their country. This guy...not so much. 
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