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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,211
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I guarantee every one here knows someone at work that voted for Trump.  Have you called them evil and racist yet? If not,  why not? Have you not the courage of your convictions? Is it easier to shoot of on an anonymous message board than actually putting your job at risk? Cmon. Let's make tomorrow "Call a peer an evil racist day". Everyone report out how that goes. 
    I would never call someone evil it’s too hard to define the definition. It also has to involve the acceptance of a certain fantasy element that their is some type of primordial or godlike power.  Bad, ignorant, misinformed, yeah. Evil no. Racist.  I will point out racism. Fuck I will accept that my inaction to sometimes say anything about someone else’s racism enabling for the personal security of keeping myself employed is to a degree a racist act.  If you see something say something.  If you can’t say something at the very least acknowledge to yourself that you are up against a racist power structure and are trying to pick your battles.  I’m not advocating being an all day SJW, but we as a country need to start doing better about this stuff because the next Bannon acolyte hatched from the depths of parler and q anon coming into power is a very real possibility if we don’t.
    But you're talking about an actual action or words at work that are racist,  right? If so then you absolutely say something.  That's different than saying it because of their vote.
    Yes for instance a poor photo shop of Obama or something like that gets called out.   I remember when the company I’m working for bought is out last October and we were on an orientation conference call regarding benefits  and my new boss said (my name) doesn’t get any because he is a democrat and people above him laughed.   I’m just using that as an example of the environment I’m hearing these things in.  In that situation I’m pretty powerless to do anything but keep my mouth shut.  So many times when I’m on here saying something inflammatory it is because for the most part the trump supporters I am dealing with on a day to day basis are the vermin that I am referring to. Which makes it hard for me to believe that others who support him(trump) aren’t much the same at some deep level.  Wednesday and leaving this industry behind can’t come quick enough
    Glad you're changing jobs,  I couldn't deal with that.  
    This is my first real opportunity to leave and I’m out.  It has been a tough few years In this industry.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Imagine if we held trump voters to the same standards that Bernie voters have been held up to.
    I don't call Bernie voters evil commies either,  even though the Soviet Union certainly had blood on their hands. 
    I didn’t realize Bernie ever advocated for totalitarian iron fist  communism.
    And Trump never advocated for a return to slavery or eradication of minorities. 

    The point is my criticism of Bernie is about what I see as misguided policies,  and certainly not about his voters. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    I guarantee every one here knows someone at work that voted for Trump.  Have you called them evil and racist yet? If not,  why not? Have you not the courage of your convictions? Is it easier to shoot of on an anonymous message board than actually putting your job at risk? Cmon. Let's make tomorrow "Call a peer an evil racist day". Everyone report out how that goes. 
    Same people made fun of GWB “you’re either with us or against us”. It’s just crazy. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,211
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I guarantee every one here knows someone at work that voted for Trump.  Have you called them evil and racist yet? If not,  why not? Have you not the courage of your convictions? Is it easier to shoot of on an anonymous message board than actually putting your job at risk? Cmon. Let's make tomorrow "Call a peer an evil racist day". Everyone report out how that goes. 
    haha i was about to ask the same question. if you judgementals are so forceful in your convictions, then act on them. otherwise, shut it. 

    this very exchange over the last few pages is a perfect example of the epitome of keyboard warriors. 
    I see it as discussion.  What do you expect when people were told for 4 years that trump was the absolute worst person and most dangerous president of all time and supported by the lowest and worse style of deplorable?  And suddenly joe wins and this stops being true and now the majority of Trumps voters don’t actually support him or his policies they were just single issue voters...I’m not buying that.
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Imagine if we held trump voters to the same standards that Bernie voters have been held up to.
    I don't call Bernie voters evil commies either,  even though the Soviet Union certainly had blood on their hands. 
    I didn’t realize Bernie ever advocated for totalitarian iron fist  communism.
    You aren't on Bernie's secret pinko email list then. I will put in a good word for you.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I guarantee every one here knows someone at work that voted for Trump.  Have you called them evil and racist yet? If not,  why not? Have you not the courage of your convictions? Is it easier to shoot of on an anonymous message board than actually putting your job at risk? Cmon. Let's make tomorrow "Call a peer an evil racist day". Everyone report out how that goes. 
    haha i was about to ask the same question. if you judgementals are so forceful in your convictions, then act on them. otherwise, shut it. 

    this very exchange over the last few pages is a perfect example of the epitome of keyboard warriors. 
    lol 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,211
    Biden
    dignin said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Imagine if we held trump voters to the same standards that Bernie voters have been held up to.
    I don't call Bernie voters evil commies either,  even though the Soviet Union certainly had blood on their hands. 
    I didn’t realize Bernie ever advocated for totalitarian iron fist  communism.
    You aren't on Bernie's secret pinko email list then. I will put in a good word for you.
    No i’m just a dues paying member of the DSA.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,033
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    static111 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I guarantee every one here knows someone at work that voted for Trump.  Have you called them evil and racist yet? If not,  why not? Have you not the courage of your convictions? Is it easier to shoot of on an anonymous message board than actually putting your job at risk? Cmon. Let's make tomorrow "Call a peer an evil racist day". Everyone report out how that goes. 
    haha i was about to ask the same question. if you judgementals are so forceful in your convictions, then act on them. otherwise, shut it. 

    this very exchange over the last few pages is a perfect example of the epitome of keyboard warriors. 
    I see it as discussion.  What do you expect when people were told for 4 years that trump was the absolute worst person and most dangerous president of all time and supported by the lowest and worse style of deplorable?  And suddenly joe wins and this stops being true and now the majority of Trumps voters don’t actually support him or his policies they were just single issue voters...I’m not buying that.
    i certainly bought into that mentality myself for a brief time when he first got into office. but then i gave my head a shake to realize that it's simply not possible (to me) that there are tens of millions of people just like him. or even close to him. 

    there was certainly a shitload of fear mongering these last 4 years; media, celebrities, our family and friends (even me at one point). i think that lent to all of that. couple that with the "you never know what he's going to say or do next" and everything became believable with this guy, piling the fear factor into overload. people look for reasons in everything. people saw the cult he created and looked desperately for reasons and how to analyze these folks; well, most of us aren't psychologists. so we generalize and put everyone into this neat little box to make us feel better about ourselves. and it's just simply not the case. 

    there were so many people that admitted to voting for him because of his policies and his "no bullshit" way of talking, but it ended there. they don't hate mexicans, they don't think african countries are shitholes; they convinced themselves that was just his own marketing at play, his shoot from the hip style. 

    the majority of his supporters aren't the flag toting "grab me by the pussy" t shirt wearing nutters you see on the street. they are decent people that just felt forgotten by democrats and obama for 8 years. it really is that simple. 

    sure, if i saw thousands of people at a rally for a politician in my city, i'd be freaked the fuck out. a co worker of mine and his boyfriend took a picture with justin trudeau in their own back yard after he was elected and he was he was here, highly populated cities are so much closer together than they are here; it's easy to see why 30 thousand people would attend a rally or protest in a place like philadephia. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,033
    Biden
    the point is, you never really figure out the problem with labels and finger pointing. you'd think liberals would have figured this out after hillary's disastrous "deplorables" comment. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,211
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    static111 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I guarantee every one here knows someone at work that voted for Trump.  Have you called them evil and racist yet? If not,  why not? Have you not the courage of your convictions? Is it easier to shoot of on an anonymous message board than actually putting your job at risk? Cmon. Let's make tomorrow "Call a peer an evil racist day". Everyone report out how that goes. 
    haha i was about to ask the same question. if you judgementals are so forceful in your convictions, then act on them. otherwise, shut it. 

    this very exchange over the last few pages is a perfect example of the epitome of keyboard warriors. 
    I see it as discussion.  What do you expect when people were told for 4 years that trump was the absolute worst person and most dangerous president of all time and supported by the lowest and worse style of deplorable?  And suddenly joe wins and this stops being true and now the majority of Trumps voters don’t actually support him or his policies they were just single issue voters...I’m not buying that.
    i certainly bought into that mentality myself for a brief time when he first got into office. but then i gave my head a shake to realize that it's simply not possible (to me) that there are tens of millions of people just like him. or even close to him. 

    there was certainly a shitload of fear mongering these last 4 years; media, celebrities, our family and friends (even me at one point). i think that lent to all of that. couple that with the "you never know what he's going to say or do next" and everything became believable with this guy, piling the fear factor into overload. people look for reasons in everything. people saw the cult he created and looked desperately for reasons and how to analyze these folks; well, most of us aren't psychologists. so we generalize and put everyone into this neat little box to make us feel better about ourselves. and it's just simply not the case. 

    there were so many people that admitted to voting for him because of his policies and his "no bullshit" way of talking, but it ended there. they don't hate mexicans, they don't think african countries are shitholes; they convinced themselves that was just his own marketing at play, his shoot from the hip style. 

    the majority of his supporters aren't the flag toting "grab me by the pussy" t shirt wearing nutters you see on the street. they are decent people that just felt forgotten by democrats and obama for 8 years. it really is that simple. 

    sure, if i saw thousands of people at a rally for a politician in my city, i'd be freaked the fuck out. a co worker of mine and his boyfriend took a picture with justin trudeau in their own back yard after he was elected and he was he was here, highly populated cities are so much closer together than they are here; it's easy to see why 30 thousand people would attend a rally or protest in a place like philadephia. 
    All of the above coupled with I live in Texas and have been working on defense construction projects the last few years makes it very easy to believe the worst.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    static111 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    static111 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I guarantee every one here knows someone at work that voted for Trump.  Have you called them evil and racist yet? If not,  why not? Have you not the courage of your convictions? Is it easier to shoot of on an anonymous message board than actually putting your job at risk? Cmon. Let's make tomorrow "Call a peer an evil racist day". Everyone report out how that goes. 
    haha i was about to ask the same question. if you judgementals are so forceful in your convictions, then act on them. otherwise, shut it. 

    this very exchange over the last few pages is a perfect example of the epitome of keyboard warriors. 
    I see it as discussion.  What do you expect when people were told for 4 years that trump was the absolute worst person and most dangerous president of all time and supported by the lowest and worse style of deplorable?  And suddenly joe wins and this stops being true and now the majority of Trumps voters don’t actually support him or his policies they were just single issue voters...I’m not buying that.
    i certainly bought into that mentality myself for a brief time when he first got into office. but then i gave my head a shake to realize that it's simply not possible (to me) that there are tens of millions of people just like him. or even close to him. 

    there was certainly a shitload of fear mongering these last 4 years; media, celebrities, our family and friends (even me at one point). i think that lent to all of that. couple that with the "you never know what he's going to say or do next" and everything became believable with this guy, piling the fear factor into overload. people look for reasons in everything. people saw the cult he created and looked desperately for reasons and how to analyze these folks; well, most of us aren't psychologists. so we generalize and put everyone into this neat little box to make us feel better about ourselves. and it's just simply not the case. 

    there were so many people that admitted to voting for him because of his policies and his "no bullshit" way of talking, but it ended there. they don't hate mexicans, they don't think african countries are shitholes; they convinced themselves that was just his own marketing at play, his shoot from the hip style. 

    the majority of his supporters aren't the flag toting "grab me by the pussy" t shirt wearing nutters you see on the street. they are decent people that just felt forgotten by democrats and obama for 8 years. it really is that simple. 

    sure, if i saw thousands of people at a rally for a politician in my city, i'd be freaked the fuck out. a co worker of mine and his boyfriend took a picture with justin trudeau in their own back yard after he was elected and he was he was here, highly populated cities are so much closer together than they are here; it's easy to see why 30 thousand people would attend a rally or protest in a place like philadephia. 
    All of the above coupled with I live in Texas and have been working on defense construction projects the last few years makes it very easy to believe the worst.
    There's a high probability that a good chunk of the R party is racist. But it's not 100%. Remember that there were a fair number of Obama voters that moved to Trump in 16.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,211
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    static111 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I guarantee every one here knows someone at work that voted for Trump.  Have you called them evil and racist yet? If not,  why not? Have you not the courage of your convictions? Is it easier to shoot of on an anonymous message board than actually putting your job at risk? Cmon. Let's make tomorrow "Call a peer an evil racist day". Everyone report out how that goes. 
    haha i was about to ask the same question. if you judgementals are so forceful in your convictions, then act on them. otherwise, shut it. 

    this very exchange over the last few pages is a perfect example of the epitome of keyboard warriors. 
    I see it as discussion.  What do you expect when people were told for 4 years that trump was the absolute worst person and most dangerous president of all time and supported by the lowest and worse style of deplorable?  And suddenly joe wins and this stops being true and now the majority of Trumps voters don’t actually support him or his policies they were just single issue voters...I’m not buying that.
    i certainly bought into that mentality myself for a brief time when he first got into office. but then i gave my head a shake to realize that it's simply not possible (to me) that there are tens of millions of people just like him. or even close to him. 

    there was certainly a shitload of fear mongering these last 4 years; media, celebrities, our family and friends (even me at one point). i think that lent to all of that. couple that with the "you never know what he's going to say or do next" and everything became believable with this guy, piling the fear factor into overload. people look for reasons in everything. people saw the cult he created and looked desperately for reasons and how to analyze these folks; well, most of us aren't psychologists. so we generalize and put everyone into this neat little box to make us feel better about ourselves. and it's just simply not the case. 

    there were so many people that admitted to voting for him because of his policies and his "no bullshit" way of talking, but it ended there. they don't hate mexicans, they don't think african countries are shitholes; they convinced themselves that was just his own marketing at play, his shoot from the hip style. 

    the majority of his supporters aren't the flag toting "grab me by the pussy" t shirt wearing nutters you see on the street. they are decent people that just felt forgotten by democrats and obama for 8 years. it really is that simple. 

    sure, if i saw thousands of people at a rally for a politician in my city, i'd be freaked the fuck out. a co worker of mine and his boyfriend took a picture with justin trudeau in their own back yard after he was elected and he was he was here, highly populated cities are so much closer together than they are here; it's easy to see why 30 thousand people would attend a rally or protest in a place like philadephia. 
    All of the above coupled with I live in Texas and have been working on defense construction projects the last few years makes it very easy to believe the worst.
    There's a high probability that a good chunk of the R party is racist. But it's not 100%. Remember that there were a fair number of Obama voters that moved to Trump in 16.
    I wish they’d hurry up and get back to the party
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,211
    Biden

    Scio me nihil scire

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    static111 said:

    Haha.  That’s a shit school.
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Biden
    static111 said:


    some dipshit said something.  news at 11
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,787
    Biden
    static111 said:


    Cracks me how these so-called "Christians" think Trump is great.  Why would supposedly spiritual people support a man with no soul?  Where in the Bible does it quote Jesus saying, "Hate thy neighbor, take from the poor, and grab pussy"?  I just don't get it.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,211
    Biden
    brianlux said:
    static111 said:


    Cracks me how these so-called "Christians" think Trump is great.  Why would supposedly spiritual people support a man with no soul?  Where in the Bible does it quote Jesus saying, "Hate thy neighbor, take from the poor, and grab pussy"?  I just don't get it.
    I just think it’s funny that he is agreeing that 78 million whatever joe voters are ignorant anti American anti Christians, but Hillary calling half his supporters deplorable was supposed to be a bad thing.   I want that on a shirt  to start wearing around:  ignorant, anti American and anti Christian...oh wait no i don’t I live in Texas and I enjoy breathing.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,787
    Biden
    static111 said:
    brianlux said:
    static111 said:


    Cracks me how these so-called "Christians" think Trump is great.  Why would supposedly spiritual people support a man with no soul?  Where in the Bible does it quote Jesus saying, "Hate thy neighbor, take from the poor, and grab pussy"?  I just don't get it.
    I just think it’s funny that he is agreeing that 78 million whatever joe voters are ignorant anti American anti Christians, but Hillary calling half his supporters deplorable was supposed to be a bad thing.   I want that on a shirt  to start wearing around:  ignorant, anti American and anti Christian...oh wait no i don’t I live in Texas and I enjoy breathing.

    LOL, noooooo you don't want that shirt! 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,659
    I'm sitting this one out
    static111 said:
    brianlux said:
    static111 said:


    Cracks me how these so-called "Christians" think Trump is great.  Why would supposedly spiritual people support a man with no soul?  Where in the Bible does it quote Jesus saying, "Hate thy neighbor, take from the poor, and grab pussy"?  I just don't get it.
    I just think it’s funny that he is agreeing that 78 million whatever joe voters are ignorant anti American anti Christians, but Hillary calling half his supporters deplorable was supposed to be a bad thing.   I want that on a shirt  to start wearing around:  ignorant, anti American and anti Christian...oh wait no i don’t I live in Texas and I enjoy breathing.
    I could wear it without problems. But I enjoy my Tegan and Sara shirt I have on.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Biden
    What if instead of red hats they were sporting swastikas?

    Troublemaking douchebags following a dick-tater-y cult leader who talks about violence all the time.  What could go wrong?

    https://instagram.com/p/CHpuLOJFnOD/embed/

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