Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

pjhawks said:

static111 said:

The Juggler said:

OnWis97 said:

josevolution said:

static111 said:

People seem pretty blasé about republicans telegraphing that they are gonna give stealing the election a real shot.  Meanwhile AOC asks to hold them accountable and even liberal members heads are exploding.  I don’t understand this at all. Do you really not believe that they won’t do this, do you all really think the constitution is gonna go voltron style with the liberty bell and the declaration and defend us. After 40 years of this shit and the worst of it in the last 4...this is not ok.

It seems like people are dumbfounded and in a trance and just can’t react fast enough on how fast this is moving, people keep saying relax I just don’t know..

Trump's been telegraphing it for months. Random people on twitter and this board have said "if Biden wins and it's not a landslide, they're going to try to steal it." What has the GQP done in the last five years that would lead anyone to believe they're not going to try to steal it?

How will they overturn tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of votes? Recounts rarely overturn elections. When they do it is in the hundreds of ballots, not thousands. 

I mean if you can explain that and point to respected folks in the media who agree it's possible, I'll listen. But...

So what happens if he refuses to leave? He gets forced out? By whom?  What happens if he surrounds himself with military loyalists?  If best case he gets dragged out by Secret Service or otherwise, do you think that is going to be a stabilizing move?  

at noon on January 20, 2020 if he is still at the WH he is considered a trespasser and the secret service will take him out.  The secret service put more protection on Biden even before the race was called for him last weekend. The secret service will not mess around.  Unless they fuck with the electoral college he will be out of the White House by noon on January 20, 2020.

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1326277097480843264

This guy just got outed....hilarious

I wish I didn’t see this post.   The twists and turns this story are taking in real time may crack my brain.  Does Dan purify exist or is it a deep fake or is it some guy named byl holte pretending to be Dan purdy to take the slack from this original white guy that posted he was a gay Black man....I’m stepping away and will see what develops in the next hour.  This is completely bonkers

I don't understand who he is or why it matters if he has an alternative account.  Honestly,  I'm still confused. 

what dreams said:

mrussel1 said:

JimmyV said:

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

EdsonNascimento said:

brianlux said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Bentleyspop said:

This is not just a defeat of the so-called current president but also a defeat of racism, xenophobia, homophobia, anti-semitism  etc etc

Buhbyedon

This has to be the most ignorant post of the day.   You think those things no longer exist?  Yikes.  

True, they still exist, but over half the country has had it with racism, xenophobia, homophobia, anti-semitism, etc., and when you look at how the youth of today voted we can see that number is growing.  It's going to be a long road to ending hate, and of course it will always be there, but perhaps we are finally going in the direction on reducing hate and judging people by their color, race, choice of faith, etc.  Not everyone may realize it, but this was an important win today for everybody!

Honesty Brian, you’re better than that.  You don’t honestly think that anyone who voted for Trump is by default racist.  

That’s an incredibly stupid statement, but if it makes the self righteous feel better, so be it.  

Biden’s election does nothing to any of those.  As a matter of fact it could do the opposite.  At least it was brought to the surface to be squashed.    Feeling self satisfied is the fastest way to lose ground. Unless we all continue to push to eradicate it - not by marching on the streets (though that’s fine) and certainly not by rioting, but by actively impacting people’s lives in a positive way.

i mean do you really think there’s any more of those things today then there was 5 years ago?  You’re kidding yourself if you think so,  The whole Colin Kaepernick thing started in 2016.  Who was President?  That’s just one example.  Biden would do the country a service by noting as much.  The Trump years did not invent those things or even make them worse.  They did expose them more. And that’s a good thing. 

Edit - I’m not arguing Trump deserves any credit.    Making the point that those things existed and have perpetuated thorough time. 

Wow, just wow. Do you really believe what you spout? Or just trying to “own the libs?” By the way, you’re really full of enlightenment. How did any of us ever think we knew what was going on? The apologists are thick, THICK everywhere. BOO HOO.

ps: a relative absence over four years of the worst administration in world history and more than two posts a day since Tuesday is telling. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Like your side has some moral high ground. Thanks for the LOL! Did I do the rejoinder right?

You vote for a racist means you stand with a racist ! You might not feel like your a racist but you agree with one and Covidiot is def a racist has been his whole life! 

I have been saying this for weeks, months,  and unfortunately years now.
The Buddhists believe that when you support evil that that support makes you evil as well.
Supporting a "president" and a regime that pushes evil, fearful, hateful,  ignorant, racist, and xenophobic policies and beliefs makes you complicit.
Whether that support is posting on a liberal bands website in support of those policies or voting. It is still support

Absolutely agree with this. 

So we have 70 million evil Americans? What should we do? Jail them? Disenfranchise them? Not allow them to hold a job? Just curious where this inflammatory language meets the road. I mean evil is a very strong word.  We can't have 50% of the country to be evil.  We have to do something.  

I'd like to start with my sister who is 18 years older than me and cares for my elderly mother in Ohio every day.  She was also a mother for me basically for several years.  She is a kind,  giving person who I love dearly.  But I know she voted for Trump so obviously she is evil.  What should I do? Should I cut off communication or something more radical? As a human,  how can I not do something to eradicate the evil that is my sister? Doesn't that make me evil by allowing it to continue? 

Anyone else have an evil family member that they love,  or just me?

I grapple with this with my own brothers.  They don't commit evil acts, but they are racist as hell, believe all the conspiracies, and spew angry, hateful words about "the libs" all day long. Once Obama was elected, all I've heard is white male grievance from my brothers and their stupid parroting wives. It's been very, very hard to love them over the past 12 years. If I weren't my own mother's caretaker and forced to spend time with them out of respect to her, I would totally disown them. Thanksgiving is going to be pure hell this year. They can't leave it alone, knowing full well I have no desire to talk politics or current events with them, but they just poke and snark and escalate until their faces are red and they're screaming at me about their guns and the pledge of allegiance and the black people taking over America. The last time we came to blows was my mom's birthday party in June when the George Floyd protests first erupted. They couldn't even keep the peace at what might have been their mom's last birthday party. I had to apologize to her in the car when we left for the way they ruined the whole day and how I let them drag me into another one of their tirades about everything they hate about America. I just can't stand being around them. Family or not, as soon as my mom is no longer with us, I won't be spending any more time with the brothers. That's where some of us are in America.

what dreams said:

mrussel1 said:

JimmyV said:

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

EdsonNascimento said:

brianlux said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Bentleyspop said:

This is not just a defeat of the so-called current president but also a defeat of racism, xenophobia, homophobia, anti-semitism  etc etc

Buhbyedon

This has to be the most ignorant post of the day.   You think those things no longer exist?  Yikes.  

True, they still exist, but over half the country has had it with racism, xenophobia, homophobia, anti-semitism, etc., and when you look at how the youth of today voted we can see that number is growing.  It's going to be a long road to ending hate, and of course it will always be there, but perhaps we are finally going in the direction on reducing hate and judging people by their color, race, choice of faith, etc.  Not everyone may realize it, but this was an important win today for everybody!

Honesty Brian, you’re better than that.  You don’t honestly think that anyone who voted for Trump is by default racist.  

That’s an incredibly stupid statement, but if it makes the self righteous feel better, so be it.  

Biden’s election does nothing to any of those.  As a matter of fact it could do the opposite.  At least it was brought to the surface to be squashed.    Feeling self satisfied is the fastest way to lose ground. Unless we all continue to push to eradicate it - not by marching on the streets (though that’s fine) and certainly not by rioting, but by actively impacting people’s lives in a positive way.

i mean do you really think there’s any more of those things today then there was 5 years ago?  You’re kidding yourself if you think so,  The whole Colin Kaepernick thing started in 2016.  Who was President?  That’s just one example.  Biden would do the country a service by noting as much.  The Trump years did not invent those things or even make them worse.  They did expose them more. And that’s a good thing. 

Edit - I’m not arguing Trump deserves any credit.    Making the point that those things existed and have perpetuated thorough time. 

Wow, just wow. Do you really believe what you spout? Or just trying to “own the libs?” By the way, you’re really full of enlightenment. How did any of us ever think we knew what was going on? The apologists are thick, THICK everywhere. BOO HOO.

ps: a relative absence over four years of the worst administration in world history and more than two posts a day since Tuesday is telling. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Like your side has some moral high ground. Thanks for the LOL! Did I do the rejoinder right?

You vote for a racist means you stand with a racist ! You might not feel like your a racist but you agree with one and Covidiot is def a racist has been his whole life! 

I have been saying this for weeks, months,  and unfortunately years now.
The Buddhists believe that when you support evil that that support makes you evil as well.
Supporting a "president" and a regime that pushes evil, fearful, hateful,  ignorant, racist, and xenophobic policies and beliefs makes you complicit.
Whether that support is posting on a liberal bands website in support of those policies or voting. It is still support

Absolutely agree with this. 

So we have 70 million evil Americans? What should we do? Jail them? Disenfranchise them? Not allow them to hold a job? Just curious where this inflammatory language meets the road. I mean evil is a very strong word.  We can't have 50% of the country to be evil.  We have to do something.  

I'd like to start with my sister who is 18 years older than me and cares for my elderly mother in Ohio every day.  She was also a mother for me basically for several years.  She is a kind,  giving person who I love dearly.  But I know she voted for Trump so obviously she is evil.  What should I do? Should I cut off communication or something more radical? As a human,  how can I not do something to eradicate the evil that is my sister? Doesn't that make me evil by allowing it to continue? 

Anyone else have an evil family member that they love,  or just me?

I grapple with this with my own brothers.  They don't commit evil acts, but they are racist as hell, believe all the conspiracies, and spew angry, hateful words about "the libs" all day long. Once Obama was elected, all I've heard is white male grievance from my brothers and their stupid parroting wives. It's been very, very hard to love them over the past 12 years. If I weren't my own mother's caretaker and forced to spend time with them out of respect to her, I would totally disown them. Thanksgiving is going to be pure hell this year. They can't leave it alone, knowing full well I have no desire to talk politics or current events with them, but they just poke and snark and escalate until their faces are red and they're screaming at me about their guns and the pledge of allegiance and the black people taking over America. The last time we came to blows was my mom's birthday party in June when the George Floyd protests first erupted. They couldn't even keep the peace at what might have been their mom's last birthday party. I had to apologize to her in the car when we left for the way they ruined the whole day and how I let them drag me into another one of their tirades about everything they hate about America. I just can't stand being around them. Family or not, as soon as my mom is no longer with us, I won't be spending any more time with the brothers. That's where some of us are in America.

static111 said:

https://twitter.com/pjstelzel/status/1326308462989611011?s=20

I was wrong he’s not planning a coup after all.