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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    Biden
    MayDay10 said:
    I have no doubt trump himself is expecting the result to change... but everyone around him knows

    They are just going through the motions to placate a fat spoiled child
    I think he knows....he's just using this to raise funds.  At some point they will get through to him that he is just damaging his legacy.  

    They will convince him that conceding will make a 2024 run possible and that he can claim glorious victory then.

    Hopefully by 2023 he will be damaged enough to just go away.


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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Some context on the popular vote and how much of a whipping this really is..

    Biden now up to 50.8% of popular vote, topping Reagan's 50.7% in 1980...

    Is highest percentage for challenger since FDR in 1932..
    And think about how weak the incumbents were in the election of 1932 (Hoover) and 1980 (Carter).  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Some context on the popular vote and how much of a whipping this really is..

    Biden now up to 50.8% of popular vote, topping Reagan's 50.7% in 1980...

    Is highest percentage for challenger since FDR in 1932..
    And think about how weak the incumbents were in the election of 1932 (Hoover) and 1980 (Carter).  
    So weak.  So sad.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Some context on the popular vote and how much of a whipping this really is..

    Biden now up to 50.8% of popular vote, topping Reagan's 50.7% in 1980...

    Is highest percentage for challenger since FDR in 1932..
    And think about how weak the incumbents were in the election of 1932 (Hoover) and 1980 (Carter).  
    So weak.  So sad.
    Just like ole donny boy.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    I'm sitting this one out
    F Me In The Brain said:
    I feel badly for the people who are so scared right now.  Totally eating up the same bullshit pr campaign that the small percentage of right wing extremists are.
    He might want it, but it is not going to happen

    Some might say I am naive, I might say they are wearing tin foil on their heads

    Trump is gone in January.
    Flush that turd!
    This
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    I'm sitting this one out
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    And oversight for news.

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,445
    I'm sitting this one out
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    And oversight for news.

    Sean Hannity fans are the best.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    And oversight for news.

    Sean Hannity fans are the best.
    So Trump admin oversight on the news would have been good the last four years?  It cuts both ways.  It's the job of a person to know what they are consuming. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,445
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:

      It's the job of a person to know what they are consuming. 
    Seems to work well. 

    Lol.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    And oversight for news.

    Sean Hannity fans are the best.
    So Trump admin oversight on the news would have been good the last four years?  It cuts both ways.  It's the job of a person to know what they are consuming. 
    Exactly. It's the same thing with nationalized health care coverage. You want a Republican administration to potentially have a say in how reproductive care is covered??? Good luck with that.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    I'm sitting this one out
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:

      It's the job of a person to know what they are consuming. 
    Seems to work well. 

    Lol.
    If you're on here touting Hillary Clinton to be our Secretary of Defense, I'd be more humble about how other people process the information they're receiving 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    And oversight for news.

    Sean Hannity fans are the best.
    So Trump admin oversight on the news would have been good the last four years?  It cuts both ways.  It's the job of a person to know what they are consuming. 
    Exactly. It's the same thing with nationalized health care coverage. You want a Republican administration to potentially have a say in how reproductive care is covered??? Good luck with that.
    We do have medicare and medicaid today... and the Hyde rule. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    I'm sitting this one out
    The thing about broad government power is that people always imagine it in the hands of someone they trust implicitly and a quick scan of human history tells me.....things often don't shake out that way
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:

      It's the job of a person to know what they are consuming. 
    Seems to work well. 

    Lol.
    It's not working well, but a ministry of "Truth" isn't the better solution. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,445
    I'm sitting this one out
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:

      It's the job of a person to know what they are consuming. 
    Seems to work well. 

    Lol.
    If you're on here touting Hillary Clinton to be our Secretary of Defense, I'd be more humble about how other people process the information they're receiving 
    Weak comeback.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,445
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:

      It's the job of a person to know what they are consuming. 
    Seems to work well. 

    Lol.
    It's not working well, but a ministry of "Truth" isn't the better solution. 
    Haven't said anything about a ministry of truth, or a lens of truth - if you wan't to delve into The legend of Zelda 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,445
    I'm sitting this one out
    pjl44 said:
    The thing about broad government power is that people always imagine it in the hands of someone they trust implicitly and a quick scan of human history tells me.....things often don't shake out that way
    Tell me more about how these nordic countries that have a broader government power, aren't shaking out better than your country without it.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    The thing about broad government power is that people always imagine it in the hands of someone they trust implicitly and a quick scan of human history tells me.....things often don't shake out that way
    Tell me more about how these nordic countries that have a broader government power, aren't shaking out better than your country without it.
    You live in a homogeneous society comparatively.  It's not a good analogy. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,445
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    The thing about broad government power is that people always imagine it in the hands of someone they trust implicitly and a quick scan of human history tells me.....things often don't shake out that way
    Tell me more about how these nordic countries that have a broader government power, aren't shaking out better than your country without it.
    You live in a homogeneous society comparatively.  It's not a good analogy. 
    No, it is.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Who is The Shadow? Mc enutty? Fox personality? Has to be someone in the loop. Their circle of trust is dwindling by the hour.

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