Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,963
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:


    LOL.

    It's just another one of my far-fetched ideas.  In the real world, in real time, I'll be happy to have a president named Biden!

    Gotta get there first though.  Shit's getting real, real weird with these freeways shutdowns and what not.  No matter what happens, I'm super nervous about the coming days.  I live in Trump loving Hell Dorado County, California and going out to do anything this week will be nerve-wracking.  Hell, just being home is nerve wracking. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,733
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    To an extent, it is a referendum on Trump, but I still think Obama would beat Trump and Gore would not. I’d say the campaign is a B.  He did a good job laying out plans, but I honestly think he should have gotten in the mud more and brought up more of Trump’s mobbed-up past and his family’s profiteering.
    has he ever done that sort of campaigning?

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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    Oh yeah that’s right...she wouldn’t even be eligible. 
    This thread is going to move so fast in the next two days it’s gonna be very hard to keep track of what the topic du jour is.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,963
    Biden
    cutz said:

    Listen to the man!  Vote dammit, VOTE!
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  • Blue Hen = Eagle.  Delaware = Philadelphia. College = NFL team. Panderer in Chief.  

    Did he even dress himself?   His healthcare aids really should be helping him with more.  

    😆 

    Ladies and gentleman, our next President.  

    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,632
    Blue Hen = Eagle.  Delaware = Philadelphia. College = NFL team. Panderer in Chief.  

    Did he even dress himself?   His healthcare aids really should be helping him with more.  

    😆 

    Ladies and gentleman, our next President.  

    Again where are you for all of the screwups Trump has done? He is on Bush levels of comedy at this point. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,418
    Biden
    Blue Hen = Eagle.  Delaware = Philadelphia. College = NFL team. Panderer in Chief.  

    Did he even dress himself?   His healthcare aids really should be helping him with more.  

    😆 

    Ladies and gentleman, our next President.  

    What does this even mean?  BTW, Wilmington is 100% a Philly city/suburb.  
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,670
    Blue Hen = Eagle.  Delaware = Philadelphia. College = NFL team. Panderer in Chief.  

    Did he even dress himself?   His healthcare aids really should be helping him with more.  

    😆 

    Ladies and gentleman, our next President.  

    Your laughable you really want to put Biden screw up on the level of your Covidiot leader lol keep grasping at straws , I got a 100$ you’ll be the 1st here spiking the football if the Covidiot wins re-election...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,155
    Biden
    Trump humpers need a laugh too.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,797
    Biden
    god, it must be really embarrassing to be so stupid to have supported this.  No choice but to keep pressing on at this point I guess.  Pot committed.
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,632
    I have been pretty positive about this whole election the last couple of weeks but with 32 hours to go till polls close in the east I am starting to think that we are in for a shitshow of an election night/week ahead. If it really does come down to PA and it takes days for Biden to win a win is a win but the civil unrest is going to be off the charts. Win AZ or FL and it is over for Trump. That is what is needed imo on election night. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,418
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    I have been pretty positive about this whole election the last couple of weeks but with 32 hours to go till polls close in the east I am starting to think that we are in for a shitshow of an election night/week ahead. If it really does come down to PA and it takes days for Biden to win a win is a win but the civil unrest is going to be off the charts. Win AZ or FL and it is over for Trump. That is what is needed imo on election night. 
    I feel good about AZ. 
  • I'm sitting this one out
    When will news outlets "call" states, like PN and FL etc? What time? 

    Need to know how early I should wake up, have my breakfast to 4 more years or 4 years.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • I'm sitting this one out


    Sen. Bernie Sanders Calls Out the Democratic Party's Neglect of the Working Class
    https://youtu.be/TmJnP3VXqSc

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,449
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    I have been pretty positive about this whole election the last couple of weeks but with 32 hours to go till polls close in the east I am starting to think that we are in for a shitshow of an election night/week ahead. If it really does come down to PA and it takes days for Biden to win a win is a win but the civil unrest is going to be off the charts. Win AZ or FL and it is over for Trump. That is what is needed imo on election night. 

    We have to be able to go to bed on Tuesday (maybe early WED AM for some on the east cost) knowing Biden won. If not, Trump wins the ongoing controversy with Barr and a court system that's almost as devoted as his rally attendees.  I don't like that prospect, given that PA is probably not going to be called. 
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,632
    When will news outlets "call" states, like PN and FL etc? What time? 

    Need to know how early I should wake up, have my breakfast to 4 more years or 4 years.
    Pennsylvania will be a couple of days after with the way they are counting mail in votes. If Biden is close after election night and all the polls are counted he should have it. I am expecting FL and AZ to announce in the am so more like breakfast time where you are. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,514
    Biden
    cutz said:
    George Stephanopolous got a lot of flack after his interview with Jason Miller yesterday....Miller made the comment about challenging the votes arriving after the 3rd and George didn't counter him at all.  
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,418
    Biden


    Sen. Bernie Sanders Calls Out the Democratic Party's Neglect of the Working Class
    https://youtu.be/TmJnP3VXqSc

    The problem is that the working class despises our positions on social issues.  So what do you do?  Do you advocate for your actual constituency, or change your social stances?
  • I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem is that the working class despises our positions on social issues.  So what do you do?  Do you advocate for your actual constituency, or change your social stances?
    "our positions on social issues" 

    What social issues, and who are "us" ?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,424
    George Stephanopolous got a lot of flack after his interview with Jason Miller yesterday....Miller made the comment about challenging the votes arriving after the 3rd and George didn't counter him at all.  
    That was malpractice. 


  • Sen. Bernie Sanders Calls Out the Democratic Party's Neglect of the Working Class
    https://youtu.be/TmJnP3VXqSc

    He should run as a socialist, maybe start a party and a movement?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,733
    Biden
    He should run as a socialist, maybe start a party and a movement?
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  • I'm sitting this one out
    He should run as a socialist, maybe start a party and a movement?
    mickeyrat said:
    requires actual work

    CM189191 said:
    When you vote 3rd party, the only message you send is: "I don't understand American politics"
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,418
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    "our positions on social issues" 

    What social issues, and who are "us" ?
    Democrats.. and gay marriage, obamacare, abortion, etc.  Working class whites are not with us here.  They are stuck in the 50's/60's. 
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,797
    Biden
    much of it is an older generation of union workers, working class, etc... who reject modern society and technology.  They think that we can reverse course to 1955 where an entire town (white males) works at a plant, goes to the same church.  can leave their doors unlocked, allow pies to cool on a window sill, not worry about media and stimulus 24/7.  John Wayne.  No "queers".  You can tell your neighbor a racist joke.  Simplicity.  These people were/are seduced by the whole 'Make America Great Again" slogan.

    Them, and the anti-abortion zealots.


    Yes, it would be wonderful to go back to simpler times.  But you cant.  We have to adapt with the rest of the world or we fade off and fall behind.  
  • "our positions on social issues" 

    What social issues, and who are "us" ?
    When this has to be explained to you, you don’t understand American politics.
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  • Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem is that the working class despises our positions on social issues.  So what do you do?  Do you advocate for your actual constituency, or change your social stances?
    I think you change the social stances. Or at least, lighten up on them a little. Think back to the weeks and months after George Floyd. Fight against racism and strive for equality? Good. Suggest that all white people are racist due to the sins of past generations? Not so good. And that sort of rhetoric was definitely happening. 
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