Police abuse
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If there are enough cops to fire off 10 rounds in 3 seconds, there are enough to apprehend him alive.0
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Supposedly his mother was there trying to calm him down when they opened fire.RiotZact said:Yeah shit is getting real here in Philly. He was definitely coming at them with a knife, but holy hell he was so fucking far away! Did we try a taser? Anything other than deadly force at all??0 -
I've only seen 2 cops in the video. I don't think cops should be expected to tackle a guy charging them with a knife. Someone charging you with a knife from 10 feet away is about 2 seconds away from stabbing you.DewieCox said:If there are enough cops to fire off 10 rounds in 3 seconds, there are enough to apprehend him alive.
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Based on the short clip, that incident is the epitomy of being between a rock and a hard place. Those cops clearly didn't want to shoot him and were continually backing away, but eventually you can't keep backpedaling without the risk of falling or misjudging how much distance is between you and the knife. You'd need at least 3 officers for someone to try a taser since they have to be able to meet and stop the level of force being used against them. It looks like the guy wanted suicide by cop and got it. What a shitty situation and the chaos that ensued. I don't know what led up to the shooting or what efforts were made to verbally de-escalate prior to where this video picks up though so it is hard to fully understand what happened.It's a hopeless situation...0
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Exactly, we just get a slight glimpse into what was happening out there from that video. It’s not being a bootlicker to realize that charging at cops with a knife is a bad idea with a probable outcome such as this though. I saw a video once of police (not sure what country) using these “net guns” that would tangle a person up and seemed pretty efficient. Maybe officers need to be packing some of those in their trunks when they know they are going on calls related to mental health issues?tbergs said:Based on the short clip, that incident is the epitomy of being between a rock and a hard place. Those cops clearly didn't want to shoot him and were continually backing away, but eventually you can't keep backpedaling without the risk of falling or misjudging how much distance is between you and the knife. You'd need at least 3 officers for someone to try a taser since they have to be able to meet and stop the level of force being used against them. It looks like the guy wanted suicide by cop and got it. What a shitty situation and the chaos that ensued. I don't know what led up to the shooting or what efforts were made to verbally de-escalate prior to where this video picks up though so it is hard to fully understand what happened.
Here is what I’m referring to:
https://www.officer.com/tactical/less-lethal/launchers-shotguns/product/10040730/advanced-weapons-technology-talon-net-gun-system
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if we are judging by that video alone, then to me the shooting was justified. they weren't far enough away to prepare to administer their tasers. they were trying to run and he was charging after them. what else could they have done?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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DewieCox said:If there are enough cops to fire off 10 rounds in 3 seconds, there are enough to apprehend him alive.Pretty please tell us how the police would have done that from this small clip of this Incident. Or are you part of the why didn’t they shoot the gun out of his hand crowd? ... then don’t bother.
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How many bullets is too many? He was stopped after the first one.Why are they being paid any more than a mall cop?What we seen was pathetic effort.“Charging” LOLI’m sure there’s more to the story but to presume guy wanted killed by cops is reckless.0
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this type of response evokes the idea that cops are supposed to be and act like super heroes. they aren't.DewieCox said:How many bullets is too many? He was stopped after the first one.Why are they being paid any more than a mall cop?What we seen was pathetic effort.“Charging” LOLI’m sure there’s more to the story but to presume guy wanted killed by cops is reckless.
not sure how you came to the conclusion he was stopped after the first bullet. they came so fast that would be nearly impossible to ascertain.
yes, charging. what would you call it? lightly prancing towards the officers?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
He was just playing a game of “knife tag”, c’mon man!HughFreakingDillon said:
this type of response evokes the idea that cops are supposed to be and act like super heroes. they aren't.DewieCox said:How many bullets is too many? He was stopped after the first one.Why are they being paid any more than a mall cop?What we seen was pathetic effort.“Charging” LOLI’m sure there’s more to the story but to presume guy wanted killed by cops is reckless.
not sure how you came to the conclusion he was stopped after the first bullet. they came so fast that would be nearly impossible to ascertain.
yes, charging. what would you call it? lightly prancing towards the officers?Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
Being able to get and keep something between them and the perp isn’t “super”. Disarming a guy in a 2v1 situation isn’t “super”. Stopping a guy with 1 round when truly necessary isn’t “super”.
Rewatched, thought he fell as soon as they fired. Not the case. The shots came so fast that there was no time for the cops to react to their own shots and recklessly pumping 10 rounds into a guy is clearly past necessary force and simply out of control.“Pursuing” “coming towards” I think charging insinuates much more aggression than what was displayed and undermines the possibility that there were other possible courses of action.0 -
My mother told me it was a bad idea to raise a knife at police..jus sayin
Charlottesville 2013
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I tend to think the shooting was legit. If I advance on a cop with a weapon, I should expect to get shot. Now, would they have found a way to keep a white guy alive? Maybe, maybe not. And the fact that we know there are times when a survival is based on race is a problem. But I'm not sold that this was the wrong response. This was not the same as George Floyd or others who have been gunned down for seemingly no reason. And a blue-backer, I am not...1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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Hearing he was having a "mental "episode...it was a lot of shots..he was approaching but not quickly...sticky,sticky spot to be in..I think they shoot if he were white also..
Charlottesville 2013
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At some point something has to be done so police can deal with calls involving mentally incapacitated people! I refuse to believe the only answer is shoot to kill..jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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'Worst use of force': Trial begins for officer who threw handcuffed woman to ground face-first
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-police-alex-dunn-assault-trial-video-1.5777524
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Canada this timecutz said:'Worst use of force': Trial begins for officer who threw handcuffed woman to ground face-first
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-police-alex-dunn-assault-trial-video-1.5777524
Cop was suspended for 1 year with pay and is back working a desk job.0 -
Pending a review which may (FUCKING HOPEFULLY) end in dismissal. that was disgusting.Bentleyspop said:
Canada this timecutz said:'Worst use of force': Trial begins for officer who threw handcuffed woman to ground face-first
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-police-alex-dunn-assault-trial-video-1.5777524
Cop was suspended for 1 year with pay and is back working a desk job.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
i just don't fucking understand this "suspended with pay" bullshit. if I beat up someone at work, fucking hell if I'd be suspended with pay for a fucking year. a year off with pay? PUT UP YOUR DUKES ASSHOLE.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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Suspended with pay makes sense for an ongoing investigation. But once you're found to be at fault, its just like free vacation.HughFreakingDillon said:i just don't fucking understand this "suspended with pay" bullshit. if I beat up someone at work, fucking hell if I'd be suspended with pay for a fucking year. a year off with pay? PUT UP YOUR DUKES ASSHOLE.
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