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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    Is this satire there’s no way George is serious? 

    it's definitely satire. 


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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited October 2020
    Maybe my memory is off but didn't they used to separate president and vice president on the ballot? It was stupid to do that, but wasn't it like that? Or am I imagining this? Or maybe it's different in each state?

    Edit: I guess I just made that up in my head. All google image search of ballots from recent years show the president and vice-president coupled as one. Not sure why I thought they used to be separate. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Maybe my memory is off but didn't they used to separate president and vice president on the ballot? It was stupid to do that, but wasn't it like that? Or am I imagining this? Or maybe it's different in each state?

    I think so and it might have even been state-by-state.

    I think a few states have their Governor and Lieutenant Governor elected separately and sometime end up being from two different parties.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Maybe my memory is off but didn't they used to separate president and vice president on the ballot? It was stupid to do that, but wasn't it like that? Or am I imagining this? Or maybe it's different in each state?

    Edit: I guess I just made that up in my head. All google image search of ballots from recent years show the president and vice-president coupled as one. Not sure why I thought they used to be separate. 
    I guess you convinced me, too...
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  • OnWis97 said:
    Maybe my memory is off but didn't they used to separate president and vice president on the ballot? It was stupid to do that, but wasn't it like that? Or am I imagining this? Or maybe it's different in each state?

    I think so and it might have even been state-by-state.

    I think a few states have their Governor and Lieutenant Governor elected separately and sometime end up being from two different parties.
    Yeah my memory is pretty fuzzy on the whole thing. I thought it was the case, but I did some google image searches and couldn't find any ballots like that. For president at least, over the past 20 years. 
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  • Kat said:
    Is this satire there’s no way George is serious? 

    it's definitely satire. 


    Embarrassing. Who would admit doing completely wrong 9 times in a row... What are the odds...
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250
    Interesting....I just voted for the 9th time

    Kerry was my first Dem vote in 2004.  I might have voted for McCain if he wouldn't have selected Palin.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited October 2020
    mace1229 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Was 2016 a landslide? It kinda felt that way because it was obvious by about 8:00 Central that Trump was going to win. But it wasn't exactly Reagan/Mondale.  This electiion is shaping up about the same.
    Every election seems to be considered a landslide by someone. I'm sure lots on the right called it a landslide because he got I think 306 EC votes. And the left wouldn't call it a landslide because he lost the popular vote. 
    There was nothing close to a landslide in 2016. It was actually one of the closest electoral college margins in the history of the country. 

    "Every election seems to be considered a landslide by someone?" Since when? I don't think this has ever been a thing until Trump, wrongly, started saying he won by a landslide in '16. 

    There has not been a landslide since 1984...maybe Bush in '88, I guess...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_by_Electoral_College_margin

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Maybe my memory is off but didn't they used to separate president and vice president on the ballot? It was stupid to do that, but wasn't it like that? Or am I imagining this? Or maybe it's different in each state?

    Edit: I guess I just made that up in my head. All google image search of ballots from recent years show the president and vice-president coupled as one. Not sure why I thought they used to be separate. 
    IF you want to be historical, the VP was the second leading EC gainer.  I think Aaron Burr was the last VP to come in second (to TJ).  After that, it became a ticket. Or at least around that time. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Interesting....I just voted for the 9th time

    Kerry was my first Dem vote in 2004.  I might have voted for McCain if he wouldn't have selected Palin.
    I would not have voted McCain, but sans Palin I would not have been so concerned (except for McCain's penchant for solving problems with soldiers).  But to think Palin would be a breath from the presidency was pretty scary...until Trump.  He's Palin x12. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting....I just voted for the 9th time

    Kerry was my first Dem vote in 2004.  I might have voted for McCain if he wouldn't have selected Palin.
    I would not have voted McCain, but sans Palin I would not have been so concerned (except for McCain's penchant for solving problems with soldiers).  But to think Palin would be a breath from the presidency was pretty scary...until Trump.  He's Palin x12. 
    Actually I remember telling my mom that I couldn't vote for McCain because, at the time, he was talking about going to a flat tax which I found as both a threat to my income and just plain stupid.  But Palin was the icing on the cake.  I understand why he did it (had to...he was so far behind in polling they needed a "game change") and I he admitted later that it was a mistake.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting....I just voted for the 9th time

    Kerry was my first Dem vote in 2004.  I might have voted for McCain if he wouldn't have selected Palin.
    I would not have voted McCain, but sans Palin I would not have been so concerned (except for McCain's penchant for solving problems with soldiers).  But to think Palin would be a breath from the presidency was pretty scary...until Trump.  He's Palin x12. 

    I toyed with voting 3rd in both of Obama's elections. (Honestly, I probably would not have, regardless).  But Palin and Paul Ryan took it off the table. Palin was the original nutty lib-owning GQPer and Ryan was more of a classic "smiling mean guy" Republcian.  Either way, I didn't want them being one step away....
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting....I just voted for the 9th time

    Kerry was my first Dem vote in 2004.  I might have voted for McCain if he wouldn't have selected Palin.
    I would not have voted McCain, but sans Palin I would not have been so concerned (except for McCain's penchant for solving problems with soldiers).  But to think Palin would be a breath from the presidency was pretty scary...until Trump.  He's Palin x12. 

    I toyed with voting 3rd in both of Obama's elections. (Honestly, I probably would not have, regardless).  But Palin and Paul Ryan took it off the table. Palin was the original nutty lib-owning GQPer and Ryan was more of a classic "smiling mean guy" Republcian.  Either way, I didn't want them being one step away....
    you did not want young backwards hat wearing, dumbell curling ryan that close?
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting....I just voted for the 9th time

    Kerry was my first Dem vote in 2004.  I might have voted for McCain if he wouldn't have selected Palin.
    I would not have voted McCain, but sans Palin I would not have been so concerned (except for McCain's penchant for solving problems with soldiers).  But to think Palin would be a breath from the presidency was pretty scary...until Trump.  He's Palin x12. 

    I toyed with voting 3rd in both of Obama's elections. (Honestly, I probably would not have, regardless).  But Palin and Paul Ryan took it off the table. Palin was the original nutty lib-owning GQPer and Ryan was more of a classic "smiling mean guy" Republcian.  Either way, I didn't want them being one step away....
    you did not want young backwards hat wearing, dumbell curling ryan that close?
    He wasn't as dumb as Palin but he remindedm me of former MN Governor Pawlenty, who my dad called "the Smilin' Mean Guy."  A conservative of the heartless variety. Hey, what's he doing now?  Laying low in hopes this Trump thing blows over so he can pretend he never supported him?

    I guess that probably means my threat to go third was very idle. While both McCain and Romney were stomachable, the chance one would have picked a running mate I could deal with was pretty slim. But suppose McCain would have picked Romney...much more digestable. I'd have considered going third (though I liked Obama enough, so probably not. But 2008 was a LONG time ago and I was a little closer to "both sides are the same" than I am now).

    Paul Ryan seems positively A-OK by today's standards, though.

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  • mrussel1 said:
    Maybe my memory is off but didn't they used to separate president and vice president on the ballot? It was stupid to do that, but wasn't it like that? Or am I imagining this? Or maybe it's different in each state?

    Edit: I guess I just made that up in my head. All google image search of ballots from recent years show the president and vice-president coupled as one. Not sure why I thought they used to be separate. 
    IF you want to be historical, the VP was the second leading EC gainer.  I think Aaron Burr was the last VP to come in second (to TJ).  After that, it became a ticket. Or at least around that time. 
    Yeah I know about that old system where the runner-up was VP (imagine a Trump/Hillary administration lol). But for some reason I recall seeing like Obama vs. McCain as one thing to vote on, and Biden vs. Palin as another. But I guess I’m just making it up. Or maybe confusing it with other top-ticket things like governorships. But probably just making it up. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,532
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting....I just voted for the 9th time

    Kerry was my first Dem vote in 2004.  I might have voted for McCain if he wouldn't have selected Palin.
    I would not have voted McCain, but sans Palin I would not have been so concerned (except for McCain's penchant for solving problems with soldiers).  But to think Palin would be a breath from the presidency was pretty scary...until Trump.  He's Palin x12. 

    I toyed with voting 3rd in both of Obama's elections. (Honestly, I probably would not have, regardless).  But Palin and Paul Ryan took it off the table. Palin was the original nutty lib-owning GQPer and Ryan was more of a classic "smiling mean guy" Republcian.  Either way, I didn't want them being one step away....
    you did not want young backwards hat wearing, dumbell curling ryan that close?
    He wasn't as dumb as Palin but he remindedm me of former MN Governor Pawlenty, who my dad called "the Smilin' Mean Guy."  A conservative of the heartless variety. Hey, what's he doing now?  Laying low in hopes this Trump thing blows over so he can pretend he never supported him?

    I guess that probably means my threat to go third was very idle. While both McCain and Romney were stomachable, the chance one would have picked a running mate I could deal with was pretty slim. But suppose McCain would have picked Romney...much more digestable. I'd have considered going third (though I liked Obama enough, so probably not. But 2008 was a LONG time ago and I was a little closer to "both sides are the same" than I am now).

    Paul Ryan seems positively A-OK by today's standards, though.


    except for the tax cut..... which means I pay far more now in withholding and get shit on the back end from lost deductions....
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    I have voted 3rd on many occasions.
    Biden Clinton Obama Obama Kerry (so underrated...) Nader Nader Perot The Duke and Walter Mondale after an entire high school spent in the first term of Ron Reagan.

    Never (R). Ever.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    P. Ryan?   ew
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    ikiT said:
    P. Ryan?   ew
    Yeah but he was totally into Rage.  He was all about taking on the 'system'. 
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