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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  

  • CM189191
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    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  


    peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed:

    A car drives into protesters in Charlottesville Virginia One person was killed and more were injured




  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  


    peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed:

    A car drives into protesters in Charlottesville Virginia One person was killed and more were injured




    Um okay, non-sequitur.  What are you saying then, because of these douchebags we should start executing other citizens?  I'm not following the logic. 
  • static111
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    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  

    In the absence of legal recourse of taking advantage of other citizens of a lower class once other means have been satisfactorily exhausted I wholeheartedly would support a violent overthrow and reorganization.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  

    In the absence of legal recourse of taking advantage of other citizens of a lower class once other means have been satisfactorily exhausted I wholeheartedly would support a violent overthrow and reorganization.
    I don't believe in murder as a means of economic readjustment.  I think that's shameful, frankly.  
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  


    peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed:

    A car drives into protesters in Charlottesville Virginia One person was killed and more were injured




    Um okay, non-sequitur.  What are you saying then, because of these douchebags we should start executing other citizens?  I'm not following the logic. 

    Citizens are already being executed.  It's already started.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  


    peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed:

    A car drives into protesters in Charlottesville Virginia One person was killed and more were injured




    Um okay, non-sequitur.  What are you saying then, because of these douchebags we should start executing other citizens?  I'm not following the logic. 

    Citizens are already being executed.  It's already started.  
    So you're all about that?  Eye for eye?  Are they being executed like in a Soviet Gulag?  Is it more like a Nazi deathcamp?  Or are we seeing it in the public square like the French Revolution? Where does it start, where does it stop?  Are you actually thinking through what you are supporting here, because this feels like a Breitbart conversation.  
  • mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  


    peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed:

    A car drives into protesters in Charlottesville Virginia One person was killed and more were injured




    Um okay, non-sequitur.  What are you saying then, because of these douchebags we should start executing other citizens?  I'm not following the logic. 

    Citizens are already being executed.  It's already started.  
    So you're all about that?  Eye for eye?  Are they being executed like in a Soviet Gulag?  Is it more like a Nazi deathcamp?  Or are we seeing it in the public square like the French Revolution? Where does it start, where does it stop?  Are you actually thinking through what you are supporting here, because this feels like a Breitbart conversation.  
    Much more like an Obama FEMA camp or death panel.
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  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  


    peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed:

    A car drives into protesters in Charlottesville Virginia One person was killed and more were injured




    Um okay, non-sequitur.  What are you saying then, because of these douchebags we should start executing other citizens?  I'm not following the logic. 

    Citizens are already being executed.  It's already started.  
    So you're all about that?  Eye for eye?  Are they being executed like in a Soviet Gulag?  Is it more like a Nazi deathcamp?  Or are we seeing it in the public square like the French Revolution? Where does it start, where does it stop?  Are you actually thinking through what you are supporting here, because this feels like a Breitbart conversation.  
    Much more like an Obama FEMA camp or death panel.
    Jade Helm actually murdered thousands...so there's that. 
  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  


    peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed:

    A car drives into protesters in Charlottesville Virginia One person was killed and more were injured




    Um okay, non-sequitur.  What are you saying then, because of these douchebags we should start executing other citizens?  I'm not following the logic. 

    Citizens are already being executed.  It's already started.  
    So you're all about that?  Eye for eye?  Are they being executed like in a Soviet Gulag?  Is it more like a Nazi deathcamp?  Or are we seeing it in the public square like the French Revolution? Where does it start, where does it stop?  Are you actually thinking through what you are supporting here, because this feels like a Breitbart conversation.  
    Much more like an Obama FEMA camp or death panel.
    Jade Helm actually murdered thousands...so there's that. 
    In all those Underground, interconnected abandoned Wal Marts, right? That’s why there’s no bodies.
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  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  


    peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed:

    A car drives into protesters in Charlottesville Virginia One person was killed and more were injured




    Um okay, non-sequitur.  What are you saying then, because of these douchebags we should start executing other citizens?  I'm not following the logic. 

    Citizens are already being executed.  It's already started.  
    So you're all about that?  Eye for eye?  Are they being executed like in a Soviet Gulag?  Is it more like a Nazi deathcamp?  Or are we seeing it in the public square like the French Revolution? Where does it start, where does it stop?  Are you actually thinking through what you are supporting here, because this feels like a Breitbart conversation.  
    Much more like an Obama FEMA camp or death panel.
    Jade Helm actually murdered thousands...so there's that. 
    In all those Underground, interconnected abandoned Wal Marts, right? That’s why there’s no bodies.
    Many people are saying...
  • static111
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    Many people are saying that trump paid $750 more than Amazon in taxes, but that’s just smart business.
    Post edited by static111 on
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  • static111
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    static111 said:
    Many people are saying that trump paid $750 more than Amazon in taxes, but that’s just smart business.
    Good for the stockholders too
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  • mrussel1
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    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Many people are saying that trump paid $750 more than Amazon in taxes, but that’s just smart business.
    Good for the stockholders too
    I don't defend either.  But remember, with Trump we are talking about his personal income taxes, not how much a particular business paid.  These are two separate things.  And in neither case do I think Bezos or Trump should be executed. 
  • Gern Blansten
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    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Many people are saying that trump paid $750 more than Amazon in taxes, but that’s just smart business.
    Good for the stockholders too
    I don't defend either.  But remember, with Trump we are talking about his personal income taxes, not how much a particular business paid.  These are two separate things.  And in neither case do I think Bezos or Trump should be executed. 
    Most of his businesses are LLCs though...so the net income/loss ends up on his personal return.

    The point I have been making is that a good businessman would not have consistent losses like that.  Depreciation can be manipulated to lessen losses as well as increase losses.  To drive yourself into losses only means that you lost your ass.  There is no deep planning in losing your ass.
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    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  


    peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed:

    A car drives into protesters in Charlottesville Virginia One person was killed and more were injured




    Um okay, non-sequitur.  What are you saying then, because of these douchebags we should start executing other citizens?  I'm not following the logic. 

    Citizens are already being executed.  It's already started.  
    So you're all about that?  Eye for eye?  Are they being executed like in a Soviet Gulag?  Is it more like a Nazi deathcamp?  Or are we seeing it in the public square like the French Revolution? Where does it start, where does it stop?  Are you actually thinking through what you are supporting here, because this feels like a Breitbart conversation.  

    It's already started.  

    Voting has failed us
    The courts have failed us
    The police have failed us
    Peaceful protesting has failed us

    Now it's just a matter of who gets to decide where and when it stops.  





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    "Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honorably conducted? I say nothing of it’s motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness.

    "God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion. The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.

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    What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?

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    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Many people are saying that trump paid $750 more than Amazon in taxes, but that’s just smart business.
    Good for the stockholders too
    I don't defend either.  But remember, with Trump we are talking about his personal income taxes, not how much a particular business paid.  These are two separate things.  And in neither case do I think Bezos or Trump should be executed. 
    To me it makes a case that the tax code is a bigger problem than Trump only paying $750.  Obviously Trump tipped the scale more in favor of the ultra wealthy, but it didn’t start with him.  Which is why this story will go away,  too many moneyed interests and high net worth people have too much to lose by focusing a microscope on tax codes and loopholes that benefit the rich.
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    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Many people are saying that trump paid $750 more than Amazon in taxes, but that’s just smart business.
    Good for the stockholders too
    I don't defend either.  But remember, with Trump we are talking about his personal income taxes, not how much a particular business paid.  These are two separate things.  And in neither case do I think Bezos or Trump should be executed. 
    To me it makes a case that the tax code is a bigger problem than Trump only paying $750.  Obviously Trump tipped the scale more in favor of the ultra wealthy, but it didn’t start with him.  Which is why this story will go away,  too many moneyed interests and high net worth people have too much to lose by focusing a microscope on tax codes and loopholes that benefit the rich.
    or....the losses are somewhat legit and he just sucks at making money


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    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:

    I'm sorry, I think it's terrible for people to think positively of the French Revolution, even just a little bit.  The fact that a popular left wing rag is called Jacobin is shameful.  
    What revolutions do you think are ok?
    The American Revolution, as an example, where the point wasn't to execute citizens, rather to fight soldiers.  

    Do you think it's perfectly acceptable to execute citizens, men, women and children?  And if you studied the French Revolution, you'll know that the reign of terror quickly spread to the same peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed.  See Robespierre, Maximilien.  


    peasants and bourgeoisie who led the initial bloodshed:

    A car drives into protesters in Charlottesville Virginia One person was killed and more were injured




    Um okay, non-sequitur.  What are you saying then, because of these douchebags we should start executing other citizens?  I'm not following the logic. 

    Citizens are already being executed.  It's already started.  
    So you're all about that?  Eye for eye?  Are they being executed like in a Soviet Gulag?  Is it more like a Nazi deathcamp?  Or are we seeing it in the public square like the French Revolution? Where does it start, where does it stop?  Are you actually thinking through what you are supporting here, because this feels like a Breitbart conversation.  

    It's already started.  

    Voting has failed us
    The courts have failed us
    The police have failed us
    Peaceful protesting has failed us

    Now it's just a matter of who gets to decide where and when it stops.  





    "Wonderful is the effect of impudent and persevering lying. The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, and what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves.

    "Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honorably conducted? I say nothing of it’s motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness.

    "God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion. The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.

    "We have had 13. states independent 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?

    "Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure."
    That's fucking crazy talk.  If you think that's the future, you would be wise to head to Canada right now.  If I thought that, I would be gone.  
  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Many people are saying that trump paid $750 more than Amazon in taxes, but that’s just smart business.
    Good for the stockholders too
    I don't defend either.  But remember, with Trump we are talking about his personal income taxes, not how much a particular business paid.  These are two separate things.  And in neither case do I think Bezos or Trump should be executed. 
    Most of his businesses are LLCs though...so the net income/loss ends up on his personal return.

    The point I have been making is that a good businessman would not have consistent losses like that.  Depreciation can be manipulated to lessen losses as well as increase losses.  To drive yourself into losses only means that you lost your ass.  There is no deep planning in losing your ass.
    Yes I know.  And I agree with the broader point about him being a terrible businessman, and the foolishness of the personal guarantees he seems to have made.  I'm drawing a distinction between Amazon and Trump industries.