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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Meltdown99 said:

    Louisiana court upholds black man’s life sentence for trying to steal hedge clippers


    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/07/lousiana-court-denies-life-sentence-appeal-fair-wayne-bryant-black-man-hedge-clippers

    jeesh...good thing he lives in the land of the free.
    unbelievable

    LAW AND ORDER!
    the first Biden pardon, is my hope. 
    Wouldn't it have to be a federal crime for Biden to pardon him? 

    Either way, this guy serving a life sentence for stealing hedge clippers is outrageous. Habitual offender or not. That's what I hate about bureaucrats. "Rules are rules" are to them. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    edited August 2020
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Meltdown99 said:

    Louisiana court upholds black man’s life sentence for trying to steal hedge clippers


    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/07/lousiana-court-denies-life-sentence-appeal-fair-wayne-bryant-black-man-hedge-clippers

    jeesh...good thing he lives in the land of the free.
    unbelievable

    LAW AND ORDER!
    the first Biden pardon, is my hope. 
    Wouldn't it have to be a federal crime for Biden to pardon him? 

    Either way, this guy serving a life sentence for stealing hedge clippers is outrageous. Habitual offender or not. That's what I hate about bureaucrats. "Rules are rules" are to them. 
    correct.

    “Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President … However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense.

    “Since Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey are both state prisoners, the President cannot pardon them. A pardon in this case would need to be issued at the state level by the appropriate authorities.”

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    https://twitter.com/attorneycrump/status/1297721479711334401?s=21
    Black folks keep getting killed by cops every damn say plus C19 is killing black folks as well, I say keep in protesting every god damn day and cops should be retrained at least retrained or weed out the bad cops there’s plenty of them! 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    josevolution said:
    https://twitter.com/attorneycrump/status/1297721479711334401?s=21
    Black folks keep getting killed by cops every damn say plus C19 is killing black folks as well, I say keep in protesting every god damn day and cops should be retrained at least retrained or weed out the bad cops there’s plenty of them! 
    I have no problem with this.  What I am having a problem with now is that the mentality that ALL cops are bad is falling on my deaf ears.

    I want reform but when you have open season on a whole group of people then it's lost is luster for me.

    There was a cop telling a protester that "they won" and the protester couldn't have been more of a jerk.  It's things like this that sour me daily.

    The BLM website has some great info on it now.  I would love that message to transcend to the people in the streets.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    https://twitter.com/attorneycrump/status/1297721479711334401?s=21
    Black folks keep getting killed by cops every damn say plus C19 is killing black folks as well, I say keep in protesting every god damn day and cops should be retrained at least retrained or weed out the bad cops there’s plenty of them! 
    I have no problem with this.  What I am having a problem with now is that the mentality that ALL cops are bad is falling on my deaf ears.

    I want reform but when you have open season on a whole group of people then it's lost is luster for me.

    There was a cop telling a protester that "they won" and the protester couldn't have been more of a jerk.  It's things like this that sour me daily.

    The BLM website has some great info on it now.  I would love that message to transcend to the people in the streets.
    Agreed! 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Meltdown99 said:

    Louisiana court upholds black man’s life sentence for trying to steal hedge clippers


    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/07/lousiana-court-denies-life-sentence-appeal-fair-wayne-bryant-black-man-hedge-clippers

    jeesh...good thing he lives in the land of the free.
    unbelievable

    LAW AND ORDER!
    the first Biden pardon, is my hope. 
    Wouldn't it have to be a federal crime for Biden to pardon him? 

    Either way, this guy serving a life sentence for stealing hedge clippers is outrageous. Habitual offender or not. That's what I hate about bureaucrats. "Rules are rules" are to them. 
    right. forgot about that. 
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,221
    Is there a bigger POS or a worse spokesperson for BLM than Shaun King? 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited August 2020

    dang quotes won't work
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    nicknyr15 said:
    Is there a bigger POS or a worse spokesperson for BLM than Shaun King? 
    I'd say Mark Fuhrman would make a worse BLM spokesperson.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,418
    It makes me sad that she has to do this...


  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Bentleyspop said:
    It makes me sad that she has to do this...


    sadly, i don't see this changing. i see so much "if he just listened to the cops....". people just don't fucking get it. i'm afraid they never will. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    nicknyr15 said:
    Is there a bigger POS or a worse spokesperson for BLM than Shaun King? 
    And of course Pearl Jam follows him. But I expect better from Weird Al. Eh, to each their own I guess. 


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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,078
    edited August 2020
    Bentleyspop said:
    It makes me sad that she has to do this...


    Everyone in this thread needs to watch this.
    Post edited by static111 on
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Is there a bigger POS or a worse spokesperson for BLM than Shaun King? 
    And of course Pearl Jam follows him. But I expect better from Weird Al. Eh, to each their own I guess. 


    following is not necessarily an endorsement, just so you know. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    static111 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    It makes me sad that she has to do this...


    Everyone in this thread needs to watch this.
    Watched.  Powerful words by her.  Almost had to stop cause the annoying "mmmmm" some dude kept doing.

    Sure if he did exactly what the cops said he would have had a much better opportunity to not be shot, but like someone said above, that isn't the point.  We cannot continue to condone this escalation behavior from the police.  They are not prison guards, not everyone should be assumed guilty.  They are not judges/jury, they shouldn't be carrying out a sentence.  And they are the ones more often than not creating the situation in the first place.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Is there a bigger POS or a worse spokesperson for BLM than Shaun King? 
    And of course Pearl Jam follows him. But I expect better from Weird Al. Eh, to each their own I guess. 


    following is not necessarily an endorsement, just so you know. 
    I didn't say it was. But you must have some sort of interest in what someone says if you're following them. 
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  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    It makes me sad that she has to do this...


    sadly, i don't see this changing. i see so much "if he just listened to the cops....". people just don't fucking get it. i'm afraid they never will. 

    OK...first and foremost, the guy shouldnt have been shot..Regardless of ignoring the cops...Should they have just let him drive away?
     Bad police work..he should have been tackled or tazed first..amazing how being afraid of applying the law to a black person resulted in shooting him 7 times..just wow.
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  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,992
    wndowpayne said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    It makes me sad that she has to do this...


    sadly, i don't see this changing. i see so much "if he just listened to the cops....". people just don't fucking get it. i'm afraid they never will. 

    OK...first and foremost, the guy shouldnt have been shot..Regardless of ignoring the cops...Should they have just let him drive away?
     Bad police work..he should have been tackled or tazed first..amazing how being afraid of applying the law to a black person resulted in shooting him 7 times..just wow.
    This is what I’ve been struggling with the last couple days. Personally I don’t see asking Blake to follow directions from the lawful authorities and the gross overreaction by the police as either/or.

    There’s been posts (Chuck D’s hit me) that say that attributing any blame to Blake makes one “part of the problem”, implying racism.

     I truly want to be an ally in the struggle, but pushing me away for trying to be objective seems counterproductive.

    I’ve seen posts asking why protesters are judged by the most violent but not the police. I try to judge the rioters separately from the peaceful protesters, and apply the same thought process to the authorities. Is the point now to let a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch?
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  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,992
    Expect BLM-Toronto protests in the coming days. A tragic outcome obviously, but the family’s initial claims that she was pushed off the balcony were dangerous and in the end not substantiated. I’m sure a civil suit is in the offing.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Is there a bigger POS or a worse spokesperson for BLM than Shaun King? 
    And of course Pearl Jam follows him. But I expect better from Weird Al. Eh, to each their own I guess. 


    following is not necessarily an endorsement, just so you know. 
    I didn't say it was. But you must have some sort of interest in what someone says if you're following them. 
    of course. what's one of the biggest criticisms that right wingers have of this place? it being an echo chamber. if you aren't interested in what others you disagree with are saying, you are doing it wrong. 

    of course, this could also absolutely mean the band follows him because they agree with him. i was just responding to your "of course (pearl jam) follow him". the implication being that they support him because they follow him on twitter. which i doubt any of the band members are even involved in. 
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